Job security future of PMR?

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Med student here checking in, strongly looking at PMR, I know that being a PMR doctor you will always be in demand. However, if somebody either senior residents, recent grads, or attendings could put input here as to whether you can pick your exact location for the most part of where you end up practicing or is it not as flexible? Also, what are current job offers that are out there starting at and the hours/call behind those offers?

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Med student here checking in, strongly looking at PMR, I know that being a PMR doctor you will always be in demand. However, if somebody either senior residents, recent grads, or attendings could put input here as to whether you can pick your exact location for the most part of where you end up practicing or is it not as flexible? Also, what are current job offers that are out there starting at and the hours/call behind those offers?

The more specific you are about location (especially in desirable locations) and scope of practice, the more difficult that it will be to get what you want. The same applies for all jobs, and that isn't specific to PM&R.

If you know you want to practice in a particular city or region...you can look at current offers by googling physiatrist or PM&R, job, and location. Not all jobs are listed but it will give you an idea if jobs are out there.

Aapmr and indeed are probably the best two sites.
 
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With the baby boomers getting old, you will be busy. Probably should be tied to a surgical group these days...
 
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One of my best friends is an ortho resident and he constantly jokes that "those Plenty of Money & Relaxation folks" are constantly pushing the boundaries and "encroaching on ortho territory." Despite his thinly-veiled bitterness, his point is valid--while PM&R docs are not by any stretch of the imagination orthopod-wannabes, they fulfill a niche that is much needed, and has always been needed, but hasn't necessarily been widely available and/or publicized. That is changing fairly quickly, especially as procedures become less and less invasive. I think that, in the more distant future, full-blown surgeries will become obsolete, and we'll be treating neuro/ortho/rehab patient populations with combinations of minimally-invasive procedures, stem cells, and multimodal rehab therapies. While we might not be there just yet, but we are increasingly approaching that territory, and physiatrists are uniquely positioned to address this scope of practice. Patients are receptive, too--who would choose to go under the knife when a less invasive therapy will suffice? I am hopeful.

What sort of insurance reimbursements we get, though...that's a whole other can of worms. One I'd rather not think about.
 
One of my best friends is an ortho resident and he constantly jokes that "those Plenty of Money & Relaxation folks" are constantly pushing the boundaries and "encroaching on ortho territory." Despite his thinly-veiled bitterness, his point is valid--while PM&R docs are not by any stretch of the imagination orthopod-wannabes, they fulfill a niche that is much needed, and has always been needed, but hasn't necessarily been widely available and/or publicized. That is changing fairly quickly, especially as procedures become less and less invasive. I think that, in the more distant future, full-blown surgeries will become obsolete, and we'll be treating neuro/ortho/rehab patient populations with combinations of minimally-invasive procedures, stem cells, and multimodal rehab therapies. While we might not be there just yet, but we are increasingly approaching that territory, and physiatrists are uniquely positioned to address this scope of practice. Patients are receptive, too--who would choose to go under the knife when a less invasive therapy will suffice? I am hopeful.

What sort of insurance reimbursements we get, though...that's a whole other can of worms. One I'd rather not think about.

Agreed, and this is doubly true for higher level athletes. Crossfit is one example of a population that would try absolutely anything before going under the knife. Their prime years is such a narrow window that invasive surgery would all but extinguish their competitive aspirations
 
I think the orthopedic surgeons are looking at PM&R and Pain physicians like the cardiac surgeons look at interventional cardiology. The better the technology becomes, the more and more the less invasive specialties will be able to do if they have the right skill set. There will continue to be turf battles on things forever, but I think we will continue to make in roads on new things coming out such as stem cells, PRP, Tenex and even endoscopic discectomy. I also want to avoid being tied to a surgery group if I can. 1) They tend to treat PM&R docs like we are way beneath them and 2) They can try and exert more control over what you can and can't do. Especially if your someone like me who will learn a lot of more complex stuff in fellowship, I want to be able to continue to protect my ability to perform those procedures without having others in my own group fighting against me the whole time.
 
Agreed, and this is doubly true for higher level athletes. Crossfit is one example of a population that would try absolutely anything before going under the knife. Their prime years is such a narrow window that invasive surgery would all but extinguish their competitive aspirations

I love crossfitters. They just love to get MSK injuries. Very motivated to improve, but they get injured enough to keep the patients coming. 😛
 
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