John Norcross’s brother charged with racketeering

[R. Matey]

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New Jersey power broker is charged with racketeering in waterfront redevelopment case

New Jersey’s attorney general has charged Democratic power broker George Norcross with racketeering and other crimes in connection with government issued tax credits.

apnews.com

About The Norcross Foundation - The Norcross Foundation

norcrossfoundation.org

 

[PsyDr]

This is literally a plot line from the Sopranos. One would have to be very foolish, to use a crime from popular media.

 

[cara susanna]

Is John Norcross legit or one of those pop psychology people who is more hype than substance? I hadn't heard of him before this.

 

[WisNeuro]

Is John Norcross legit or one of those pop psychology people who is more hype than substance? I hadn't heard of him before this.

He publishes a lot in the general psychotherapy and outcomes space. From what I've seen, it's generally legit. Also one of the authors of the insiders guide to psych programs.

https://www.scranton.edu/faculty/norcross/Documents/vita.pdf

 

[PsyDr]

Is John Norcross legit or one of those pop psychology people who is more hype than substance? I hadn't heard of him before this.

Pros: He seems to be an APA golden child. Every time I see some review publication, or some easy CE, he's an author.

Cons: He's an advocate for EMDR.

 

[WisNeuro]

Pros: He seems to be an APA golden child. Every time I see some review publication, or some easy CE, he's an author.

Cons: He's an advocate for EMDR.

Ugh,I see that now, looks like he's published with Shapiro. That's like one of us willingly choose to publish with Amen.

 

[R. Matey]

Is John Norcross legit or one of those pop psychology people who is more hype than substance? I hadn't heard of him before this.

He writes the insider's guide to getting in, which I regularly refer applicants to on this board (why I thought it might be relevant). Generally, I would characterize him as one of the more intelligent common factors people. I would place more weight on his work with J. Prochaska (who was is advisor at URI) rather than whatever side pub he did with Shapiro.

 

[psych.meout]

He writes the insider's guide to getting in, which I regularly refer applicants to on this board (why I thought it might be relevant). Generally, I would characterize him as one of the more intelligent common factors people. I would place more weight on his work with J. Prochaska (who was is advisor at URI) rather than whatever side pub he did with Shapiro.

Yeah, I went to a clinical training seminar he did and it was much more focused on psychotherapy outcomes, matching/individualizing interventions, and Prochaska stuff. I didn't even know he was into EMDR until this thread.

 

[psy.d. 2021]

He writes the insider's guide to getting in, which I regularly refer applicants to on this board (why I thought it might be relevant). Generally, I would characterize him as one of the more intelligent common factors people. I would place more weight on his work with J. Prochaska (who was is advisor at URI) rather than whatever side pub he did with Shapiro.

Yes I believe he's written on stages of change / MI. That's how I know of him, along with the guide mentioned. Wasn't familiar with his work on EMDR.

 

[R. Matey]

Yes I believe he's written on stages of change / MI. That's how I know of him, along with the guide mentioned. Wasn't familiar with his work on EMDR.

I would hardly call it work--more like he coauthored a book chapter and an article on how EMDR can fit into an transdiagnostic/integrative psychotherapy framework.

 

[PsyDr]

I would hardly call it work--more like he coauthored a book chapter and an article on how EMDR can fit into an transdiagnostic/integrative psychotherapy framework.

More like he served on the advisory board of the “EMDR Humanitarian Assistance Program” for 5 years.

I would call that work. What would you call that?

And since The EMDR Institute quotes him as saying, “EMDR is the most powerful and integrative intervention I have learned in the past five years.”, I feel safe in saying he is an advocate for emdr.

 

[R. Matey]

More like he served on the advisory board of the “EMDR Humanitarian Assistance Program” for 5 years.

I would call that work. What would you call that?

And since The EMDR Institute quotes him as saying, “EMDR is the most powerful and integrative intervention I have learned in the past five years.”, I feel safe in saying he is an advocate for emdr.

I'm happy to be wrong, but I would like a cite for these claims.

 

[PsyDr]

I'm happy to be wrong, but I would like a cite for these claims.

1) 6th page of his CV

https://www.scranton.edu/faculty/norcross/Documents/vita.pdf

2) Professional Statements - EMDR Institute - EYE MOVEMENT DESENSITIZATION AND REPROCESSING THERAPY

 

[R. Matey]

1) 6th page of his CV

Ah, I did miss that. I skimmed the book chapter though 🙂

2) Professional Statements - EMDR Institute - EYE MOVEMENT DESENSITIZATION AND REPROCESSING THERAPY

Yep, I just googled this too.


Ok, sure, he likes EMDR, but I still wouldn't define a person's work by one or two article or even membership in some org. I have a published article on climate change anxiety, but I'm not an authority on it. I'm an affiliate of the ASA (stats org), but I'm not a statistician. My guess is Norcross views EMDR as one more tool in the integrative toolbox.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I hate EMDR, but it at least has a portion (the exposure component) that works, so I guess that is better than nothing. I just hate the pseudoscience, but there are bigger things to worry about bc at least a portion of it works. Brainspotting (related to EMDR?) is a great example of just being trash everything, no redeeming value bc it is pure snake oil.

 

[quickpsych]

Had to do a double take to ensure post was accurate that the racketeering norcross was not indeed the psych one. Then again never knew a Norcross was in psych field. As someone whose family ,which I’m happily mostly out of touch from , had long known the Norcrosses and others indicited in the recent charges including a few others named in it , good grief. Small world. These folks have “probably” had mob ties for decades and had engaged in questionable politics and dealings for decades or least “greasing” the wheels of politics.

That said. , and this is strictly from a neutral standpoint having in my youth met and knew people who are now charged with racketeering in this case , people can be related to or know criminals and not be the same as them .

In any event EMDR is still pseudoscience, however I’d separate the psych Norcross from the others until proven otherwise .

 

[DynamicDidactic]

Saw the news story and never connected the names. Small world indeed.

Shame to hear about the EMDR thing. Norcross was a model of how to do good psychotherapy research that is applicable to practice in a non-research institution.