Just took DAT - scored top in nation on TS (30) and AA (27) - Full scholarship?

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Hello, since I decided to go back to school for pre-dentistry a year and a half ago, I’ve devoted myself to putting together the most competitive dental school application I could, with the hope of not only being able to attend the school of my choice, but also to try to obtain the largest merit-based scholarship possible. However, I’m just starting to research which dental schools to apply to and am not sure which ones are most likely to award large scholarships, so I was hoping some people on this forum could share what they know concerning that.

I just took the DAT at the beginning of June, and achieved extremely high scores. Here are my DAT results, as well as other information about why I feel I have a very scholarship-worthy application.

Section Standard Score Percentile
Academic Average 27 100.0
Total Science 30 100.0
General Chemistry 30 100.0
Organic Chemistry 29 99.3
Biology 26 99.7
Reading Comprehension 28 99.7
Quantitative Reasoning 22 96.4
Perceptual Ability 21 83.1

-For my prior education, I originally obtained a BBA and an MBA, with a 4.0 GPA.
-While back in school recently for my pre-dental science classes, I have received all A’s, but also ranked number 1 in every class, scoring higher than many of the professors had ever seen, so I will have extremely strong reference letters from them.
-For work history, I successfully worked as a self-employed real estate agent, and I have also worked as a personal banker. Furthermore, I worked several years in Asia where I was first an English teacher at an international school and then a university business school lecturer. All these business and teaching jobs involved explaining complex products or ideas to people in a way they could understand, a skill which is undoubtedly important in dentistry.
-I speak three languages, including an advanced ability with Spanish. I would think that my Spanish skill will be of value to a dental school, as I can interpret in the clinic and serve a greater variety of patients.
-I have around 50 general dentistry shadowing hours and around 25 specialist shadowing hours.
-I have around 80 volunteer hours with a variety of organizations, including Spanish interpreting work.
-I have served as an officer of my university’s pre-dental club for the past 3 semesters.

Throughout my adult life, I have constantly worked at improving myself, becoming not just well rounded, by striving to excel in many areas, particularly in academics, business, language, and teaching. I have worked extremely hard to accomplish these things and as I mentioned, I’m hoping they will be valued enough to merit a significant scholarship.

Which brings me back to my original question: Given this information, which dental schools might I have the best chance of receiving a large scholarship from? Are there any that might offer a full scholarship? I’ll be submitting my application on AADSAS within a few weeks, so any information on this will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
 
To be honest, there's no point of expecting a full scholarship from any school. Why would they offer you a scholarship? The whole goal about the dental school is just for the dental students passes the board exam so that their reputation can be up there.
 
Even the most competitive applicant I've ever seen (with a DAT score that matched yours) wasn't able to receive a full scholarship from any school. However, some universities like Penn provide half-tuition scholarships to their top applicants. Unfortunately, I don't think you can hope for any more than that no matter how strong your application is.
 
yeah... that's what i heard too. NO FULL SCHOLARSHIP...........
Since there are much more applicants than matriculants, they can easily replace one matriculant with another........
 
I think this thread belongs in the pre dental section.. Not DAT... In any case- i hope you don't sound as arrogant in your personal statement. And yeah - I have never heard about full scholarships where they pay for your entire tuition...
 
You are the man! I had to do a double take when I saw your scores. Haha you wouldn't mind posting a breakdown of the materials you used and a study schedule would you?
 
I've heard Penn and UOP maybe? Every school gives scholarships, but...the reality is that 12,000 people want 4,500 spots and none of these schools need us. It sucks and you're obviously a qualified candidate. Congrats on the great DAT scores and best of luck. Also, I agree this is the wrong forum for this.
 
yeah, I think this thread belongs in the pre dental section too
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is this guy for real???? And its his first post too, just sayin....

But if you're legit then congrats, that's a wicked sick score. According to

http://www.ada.org/sections/educationAndCareers/pdfs/dat_users_manual.pdf

only 3 ppl in the whole country got a 27 in 2009 !!!!

Dunno if you'll get that scholarship but maybe you can try military its actually competitive but I'm sure they'll give you one. good luck !!
 
Unless there has been a very recent change in the conversion of raw scores to standard score, it is not clear how it is possible to have a 26 in bio, a 29 in oc and still have a 30 in TS.
 
Unless there has been a very recent change in the conversion of raw scores to standard score, it is not clear how it is possible to have a 26 in bio, a 29 in oc and still have a 30 in TS.

It's possible, on the 2007 conversion scale getting a 30/30 in gen chem only gets you a 28.
 
Hi everyone, thanks for the feedback on scholarships. Most posters said that full scholarships are not offered, and I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to check with everyone to be sure, and I'll check what the opinion is on the pre-dental message board as you recommended. Hopefully I can still qualify for a partial scholarship.

Yes, all the information I provided about my DAT scores is completely accurate. I'll be happy to share what I did to prepare as well, as some people requested. First of all, there was no secret except many, many hours of hard work studying. Half a year before I went back to school for my pre-dental science classes, I bought several textbooks and read them cover to cover, doing all the problems. There was an introductory biology text, and introductory chemistry text, an intermediate algebra book, and a high school geometry book. I did this to refresh my knowledge of math and to get a head start on my science classes.

Once back in school taking the general sciences, I also read all the chapters and did almost all the problems, even if they weren't assigned by the instructors. I made a big effort to try to understand all the concepts, and often went to professors' office hours to clarify things. I also worked as a chemistry tutor, which helped to keep my chem knowledge fresh.

I studied full time for the DAT for a month before taking it. For general DAT review, I used the Kaplan Blue Book 8th edition. For the PAT, I used Crack the PAT, specifically the 5 test package (I know I didn't do super well on the PAT, but I just couldn't pay more for extra tests). For science and math, I used the DAT Destroyer. I did all the problems in the book, and studied all the answers, whether or not I got them right. Then I went back and did all the problems that I had missed the first time again.

All in all, I put a ton of time into preparing over the course of two years, and I feel that's the reason I did so well. I'm so relieved to finally be finished. I hope that helps, and good luck to those who will soon be taking it.
 
-For work history, I successfully worked as a self-employed real estate agent, and I have also worked as a personal banker. Furthermore, I worked several years in Asia where I was first an English teacher at an international school and then a university business school lecturer.
I studied full time for the DAT for a month before taking it. For general DAT review, I used the Kaplan Blue Book 8th edition. For the PAT, I used Crack the PAT, specifically the 5 test package (I know I didn't do super well on the PAT, but I just couldn't pay more for extra tests). For science and math, I used the DAT Destroyer. I did all the problems in the book, and studied all the answers, whether or not I got them right. Then I went back and did all the problems that I had missed the first time again.

Let's see. You worked for "several years" but you could not find two nickels to rub together and "pay more for extra tests"? Not to mention that you had no trouble gathering a lot of information for the DAT but could not find information on dental schools and scholarships.
 
I have similar grades and scores and don't even feel like I am guaranteed an acceptance to dental school, much less a scholarship. You are a good fit for one, but full rides do not exist to my knowledge. Also, a it's been stated, schools don't need us. We need them.

Do you have a state school? If you do, it's your best option. Congrats on your DAT success!
 
I have similar grades and scores and don't even feel like I am guaranteed an acceptance to dental school, much less a scholarship. You are a good fit for one, but full rides do not exist to my knowledge. Also, a it's been stated, schools don't need us. We need them.

Do you have a state school? If you do, it's your best option. Congrats on your DAT success!

Totally agree, I have good stats and still worrying out of my mind about getting accepted. I hope he doesn't sound like this on interview day
 
Holy **** thats an awesome score! Can you post a picture of your grades so I can what utter destruction of the DAT looks like?
 
Let's see. You worked for "several years" but you could not find two nickels to rub together and "pay more for extra tests"? Not to mention that you had no trouble gathering a lot of information for the DAT but could not find information on dental schools and scholarships.

good points. fishy.
 
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