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Let's say, hypothetically of course, federal background checks may challenge your idea that there is really no way they can find out about it.

That being said, if it was many years ago, granted that there was no other hypothetical acts, and you have enough EC's to demonstrate you aren't a serial killer, just put it on and move on.
 
gyngyn said:
If a secondary asks about charges, you should just explain it (or not submit the secondary).
If they ask about convictions, you should be ok saying no.
There is nothing to disclose for the primary in your case.
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So this is kind of related. In my state speeding is considered a class C misdemeanor. To adcoms, is this seen as equivalent to a class A misdemeanor such as drug possession or assault?

I have one ticket on my record and I have to talk about it on every secondary, so far I have been treating it like anyone else would, recognize it, say it isn't a current issue and move on usually less than 100 words. Is this sufficient in secondaries or do I need to make a long pleading essay about how it was a mistake and I am so sorry and talk about how it will never happen again?

I was on my way to volunteer and started getting poop pains. It was speed or ruin my pants. I chose to speed and was pulled over by a not so sympathetic cop. It wasn't like I was doing 80 in an active school zone.


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ATPsynthase123 said:
So this is kind of related. In my state speeding is considered a class C misdemeanor. To adcoms, is this seen as equivalent to a class A misdemeanor such as drug possession or assault?

I have one ticket on my record and I have to talk about it on every secondary, so far I have been treating it like anyone else would, recognize it, say it isn't a current issue and move on usually less than 100 words. Is this sufficient in secondaries or do I need to make a long pleading essay about how it was a mistake and I am so sorry and talk about how it will never happen again?

I was on my way to volunteer and started getting poop pains. It was speed or ruin my pants. I chose to speed and was pulled over by a not so sympathetic cop. It wasn't like I was doing 80 in an active school zone.


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No.
 
AirplaneFruit said:
You have to disclose speeding tickets?
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If they are classified as misdemeanors in your state, yes. In my state any speeding, even 1 mile over, is considered a class C misdemeanor.

It really shouldn't be an issue unless it was like 100 in a 60 and habitually.

Just to be safe I disclosed the ticket and moved on. I highly doubt it will hurt my app.


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smitticks said:
Lol you don't think I've undergone a federal already for my healthcare job? Been there done that and it doesn't show anything.
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Brilliant, I'm glad you have all the answers. Only problem is VA (if you are assigned to a rotation there), DEA licensing, State licensure background checks are something that you can't see.

I'm glad that of all the good advice you have been given, you only chose to address my comment, good luck with this endeavor.
 
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smitticks said:
Easy there killer. I don't have all the answers, which is why I'm asking. I have also done a fair amount of digging since this issue is of immediate interest to me. Thanks for bringing up the DEA and VA, those are two things that had not crossed my mind. If you get a CBC through a company like certiphi, that is a federal check correct? I know I've had both federal and state done, and I'm guessing that if they showed anything then my licensing agency would have caught it, because offenses typically requires an appearance before the licensing board in my state of residence. Also from what I have researched, they don't hold back licenses for this type of thing.
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It's not what you said but how you said it, which to be fair these things don't translate all that well via text.

For candidates with more serious convictions the key factors are time since incident and what you've done since. You seem to have taken care of yourself since and it's been a while so I think you shouldnt have issues reporting it but based on the wording it seems you arent necessarily required to report it anyway so I probably wouldn't if I were in your shoes.
 
smitticks said:
Easy there killer. I don't have all the answers, which is why I'm asking. I have also done a fair amount of digging since this issue is of immediate interest to me. Thanks for bringing up the DEA and VA, those are two things that had not crossed my mind. If you get a CBC through a company like certiphi, that is a federal check correct? I know I've had both federal and state done, and I'm guessing that if they showed anything then my licensing agency would have caught it, because offenses typically requires an appearance before the licensing board in my state of residence. Also from what I have researched, they don't hold back licenses for this type of thing.
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Certiphi is not the same as the check for a badge at some government hospitals. This is the reason that schools may ask about charges in the secondary. If one of the requirements to matriculate is the ability to get a badge at a government hospital, all parties would be well-served to know that there may be obstacles as early as possible.
 
smitticks said:
Thanks for your input. I already submitted one secondary that I replied "no" to when it asked for charges/convictions. How should I go about repairing that situation?
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Send an email to their website. Don't mention your lawyer, just say that although the charge was adjudicated as a minor, you wanted to add this to your file in the interest of full diclosure.
 
JustaDO said:
Brilliant, I'm glad you have all the answers. Only problem is VA (if you are assigned to a rotation there), DEA licensing, State licensure background checks are something that you can't see.
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State medical boards typically contact the state police for intra-state background checks and they use the NCIC database for a national check. The list of state boards that use the NCIC can be found here. To my knowledge the VA also uses the NCIC, so there is a fair amount of overlap.

Applications for physician employment at the VA ask for all felony convictions, all convictions in the prior 7 years, and any current charges. There is nothing about prior charges. This is consistent with what I know about NCIC's reporting, which includes all convictions, and all other inputted activity from the preceding 7 year window. Current charges would likely not appear, as that information may not have had time to trickle up.

You can actually see what is in your NCIC report through the Freedom of Information Act. Go somewhere like http://www.myfbireport.com/ and once you get fingerprinted you can get everything fairly quickly. For those going into careers in health care, it is not a bad idea to check yourself at least once to ensure the accuracy of your information.
 
gyngyn said:
Send an email to their website. Don't mention your lawyer, just say that although the charge was adjudicated as a minor, you wanted to add this to your file in the interest of full diclosure.
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This. What applicants may not appreciate is that how they deal with this situation now should be consistent with how they deal with it later, as they traverse the 10,000 invasive questions necessary to practice medicine.

@smitticks This occurred when you were 10 frickin' years old, it was a misdemeanor-grade offense, and the incident was expunged. Unless there is something really interesting you are not telling us, there is no reason to withhold the information.
 
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