Kaplan PAT: I don't see it

[RCLEE]

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# 9, 73, and 86 of Kaplan PAT.

For # 9, do you guys really think that the answer on Kaplan DAT will really fit through the key hole? Picked random cuz no match found. (UNLESS, the block goes in diagonally and the pyramid overshadow the cylinders???) I thought that you can only go in by the sides: top/bottom, left/right, and front/back. It doesn't look like the pyramid overlay the cylinders through.


# 73, I read the rule on this forum that there's no hidden cube. So, from the looks of it there should only be 2 cubes with one face painted, right? The space in the middle is supposed to be empty base on the rules that I've read in this forum.


# 86, the square shape base turned into a distinguishable rectangle? I didn't agree to any of the answer they've provided.

What do you guys think?

 

[wired202808]

for 86, I can see C as the answer if you look at the middle that would be the based and each diagonal would form the sides that they say in C. I dont think it could be A. (also if you look at the figure and A; A does not have the amount of folds it would be take to make a figure from the given figure.)

correct me if im wrong please.

 

[UCB05]

You can insert a keyhole shape from any direction or orientation. The stickler is that once you begin in a direction, the shape can't be rotated or inserted a different way. It looks as though the cylinders are shorter than the pyramid such that they can be overshadowed, so the top and bottom of choice D actually represent the empty corners and the middle of the shape is where the cylinders slide through. That's a close call though.

for 73, yes, there are no hidden blocks, but also remember that they must be firmly stuck together. If there were no block in the middle there, the rear two columns of blocks would only be held to the rest of the figure by their line angles, which can't happen. The center block has to be there to anchor them to the figure.

86 - That answer fold looks all kinds of messed up. At the very least you should be able to tell that there's no way to arrive at A (has too many isoceles triangles), B (has no square), or D (has an odd base shape). Only C might look like it works by virtue of the shape of the visible sides, but that fold perspective is fubar.

 

[recyrb]

You can insert a keyhole shape from any direction or orientation. The stickler is that once you begin in a direction, the shape can't be rotated or inserted a different way. It looks as though the cylinders are shorter than the pyramid such that they can be overshadowed, so the top and bottom of choice D actually represent the empty corners and the middle of the shape is where the cylinders slide through. That's a close call though.

for 73, yes, there are no hidden blocks, but also remember that they must be firmly stuck together. If there were no block in the middle there, the rear two columns of blocks would only be held to the rest of the figure by their line angles, which can't happen. The center block has to be there to anchor them to the figure.

86 - That answer fold looks all kinds of messed up. At the very least you should be able to tell that there's no way to arrive at A (has too many isoceles triangles), B (has no square), or D (has an odd base shape). Only C might look like it works by virtue of the shape of the visible sides, but that fold perspective is fubar.

the keyhole is definently tricky! it will be inserted with the cylinders in a line with the pyramid, "first"

i would say B would be the only feasible answer for the pattern folding.. considering there is a sqare that connects or is in the middle of both triangles. I dont know where that rectangle could come from??

and the cubs, it looks to me that yo ucan see a corner of the cube, doesn't seem hidden..

kaplan sucks again lol

 

[RCLEE]

for 86, I can see C as the answer if you look at the middle that would be the based and each diagonal would form the sides that they say in C. I dont think it could be A. (also if you look at the figure and A; A does not have the amount of folds it would be take to make a figure from the given figure.)

correct me if im wrong please.

I know A is not correct. The best way to do it is to cut it out and then try to fold it. You'll need to have a base so B is also not correct. Besides that, B has 8 faces, the folding paper one the left has only 7 faces. (That's a good way to tackle this kind of problem on the DAT, count the faces when the shape of the folded paper doesn't make sense!)

 

[RCLEE]

the keyhole is definently tricky! it will be inserted with the cylinders in a line with the pyramid, "first"

i would say B would be the only feasible answer for the pattern folding.. considering there is a sqare that connects or is in the middle of both triangles. I dont know where that rectangle could come from??

and the cubs, it looks to me that yo ucan see a corner of the cube, doesn't seem hidden..

kaplan sucks again lol

I was referring to the cube in the middle where you can only see a triangular shape of it. I read another post a few couple of weeks ago and Jonishere wrote that the rule was that it's excluded? that's what I followed. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=812593

"No hidden cube unless it supports another structure." I guess then this question plays with the rule in that no cube/block can be attached by the edges. That cube there's needed to support/attach the last two stacks of blocks to the structure. I'll make a note of this. THANKS!

 

[FLOSS UR TEETH]

7– I don't know about 7... possibly Kaplan is wrong? The cylinders seem to be too tall to be hidden in that manner... They seem only slightly smaller than the pyramid...

73– There are only 3 that show one side. In column 1, the second row back on the floor, there is a cube that has only one face showing towards the left. In column 3, the second row back on the floor, there is a cube with one face visible facing the sky. The last cube with one face visible is located in column 3, the second row back, and its side is facing to the right.

86– This one is tough to explain and see. You can get the correct answer by narrowing down your choices. Choice (A) has triangular sides all the same size– this is not the case in the original. Choice (B) shows sides folded upward and downward, which seem quite impossible to do from the original. Choice (D) shows sides that are not in the original.

Hope that helps.

 

[seunglim87]

#9 is not a mistake. The correct answer is indeed D.
A doest not work because the tip of the two cylndals are not circular, there would be extra room.
D works if you insert the cylinder part first into the triangular hole and pass it through.
This is a tricky question, just gotta make sure why A wouldnt be the right answer and it is pretty easy to figure out the only one can work is D

 

[FLOSS UR TEETH]

#9 is not a mistake. The correct answer is indeed D.
A doest not work because the tip of the two cylndals are not circular, there would be extra room.
D works if you insert the cylinder part first into the triangular hole and pass it through.
This is a tricky question, just gotta make sure why A wouldnt be the right answer and it is pretty easy to figure out the only one can work is D

if you pass it through or from the bottom, right?