KYCOM vs LMU DCOM

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IwannaBeaDictoor1234 said:
Hello. I have recently received acceptance from both LMU DCOM and KYCOM. I was wondering if anyone has insight on which would be a better choice. Thank you
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LMU has an accreditation warning, which concerns me.
 
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I go to lmu that’s a tough call. I’ve spoken to lots of pike people so will try for comparison

LMU PROS
Better curriculum probably
Optional lectures
More electives
Better location especially w knox
More board time
Not as much omm

LMU cons
Admin isn’t that great besides the dean
Hit or miss rotations
Cost more 49k
Second year curriculum by clinicians mostly sucks
Epc the doctoring class is a joke and waste of time


Pikeville seems to force more for primary care but also is cheaper and pays for stuff. Also mandantory lectures and a several hour long opp lab per week but we need a pike person to chime in
 
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alprazoslam said:
I go to lmu that’s a tough call. I’ve spoken to lots of pike people so will try for comparison

LMU PROS
Better curriculum probably
Optional lectures
More electives
Better location especially w knox
More board time
Not as much omm

LMU cons
Admin isn’t that great besides the dean
Hit or miss rotations
Cost more 49k
Second year curriculum by clinicians mostly sucks
Epc the doctoring class is a joke and waste of time


Pikeville seems to force more for primary care but also is cheaper and pays for stuff. Also mandantory lectures and a several hour long opp lab per week but we need a pike person to chime in
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Ya thats what I have found online so far too. Also I picked the harrogate campus as my preference since most of the professors would be there. Idk how the rotations compare to each other.
 
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Choose based on Dedicated time for boards (the more the better), OMM lab hours (less is better unless you're a believer), rotation sites (which I heard LMU had not so great ones), tuition, location/support, and mandatory attendance. Specifically in that order.
 
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DrStephenStrange said:
Choose based on Dedicated time for boards (the more the better), OMM lab hours (less is better unless you're a believer), rotation sites (which I heard LMU had not so great ones), tuition, location/support, and mandatory attendance. Specifically in that order.
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Pikeville rotations sucks too except their medical center there in pikeville. Not everyone goes there tho

Are these the only DO schools u accepted to?
 
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I interviewed at LMU and thought the school was pretty impressive. My buddy says the curriculum is pretty good, but isn't to rotations yet. I'd say it has a "better name" than Pikeville and I've heard a lot of negative things about that school, but neither are exactly stunning options.
 
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IwannaBeaDictoor1234 said:
Ya thats what I have found online so far too. Also I picked the harrogate campus as my preference since most of the professors would be there. Idk how the rotations compare to each other.
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In the spirit of trying to be helpful:
LMU has some decent rotation sites and some bad ones, the same is true for Pikeville. But LMU's good sites will probably be harder to get by 2023 with the extra campus competing for sites. Pikeville isn't great either, but the class size is smaller. LMU's non mandatory attendance is a good thing IMO, and a deciding factor in their favor if Pikeville forces you in class. I really don't like either of these as a choice, but I would go with LMU. I would probably do the Knoxville campus tho, more housing options, and I imagine that they will get to mediasite more stuff than the Harrogate home branch (similar to how NYIT-AR mostly mediasites the main NYIT-COM from what I hear). I don't see any advantage to being in Harrogate unless they are making you commute there alot.

LMU is run like a for-profit, but KYCOM is more serious about forcing you into primary care. I don't think either of those are good. But on the overall I would still probably choose LMU if that was my only choices.
 
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Rekt said:
I interviewed at LMU and thought the school was pretty impressive. My buddy says the curriculum is pretty good, but isn't to rotations yet. I'd say it has a "better name" than Pikeville and I've heard a lot of negative things about that school, but neither are exactly stunning options.
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Our first year was great second was LUL
 
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BorntobeDO? said:
In the spirit of trying to be helpful:
LMU has some decent rotation sites and some bad ones, the same is true for Pikeville. But LMU's good sites will probably be harder to get by 2023 with the extra campus competing for sites. Pikeville isn't great either, but the class size is smaller. LMU's non mandatory attendance is a good thing IMO, and a deciding factor in their favor if Pikeville forces you in class. I really don't like either of these as a choice, but I would go with LMU. I would probably do the Knoxville campus tho, more housing options, and I imagine that they will get to mediasite more stuff than the Harrogate home branch (similar to how NYIT-AR mostly mediasites the main NYIT-COM from what I hear). I don't see any advantage to being in Harrogate unless they are making you commute there alot.

LMU is run like a for-profit, but KYCOM is more serious about forcing you into primary care. I don't think either of those are good. But on the overall I would still probably choose LMU if that was my only choices.
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Yeah pretty much this
 
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I'm in the same boat, and I decided to put my deposit down at KYCOM (acceptances at LECOM, LMUDCOM, 1 interview coming up). I am from southern, Ohio, so the rotation sites in northern kentucky/pikeville were important to me. Both had good facilities. LMUDCOM had an outstanding cadaver lab. Personally, LMUDCOM was a very large class, and talking to some of the students during my interview, they just didn't sell me on the school. I was not a fan of the area, but I had not seen the Knoxville campus either. Pikevilles campus was beautiful. My interview was more personable at the KYCOM interview, and the faculty seemed to really care about the well being of their students. Pikeville does really push for primary care, however that is the specialty i am interested in. I personally know a few students at Pikeville and they have good things to say about the school. Area seems nice, although it is in the middle of nowhere similar to LMUDCOM. Hope this helps! I'd love more info from you all, especially on KYCOM.
 
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Moe_Oh1 said:
I'm in the same boat, and I decided to put my deposit down at KYCOM (acceptances at LECOM, LMUDCOM, 1 interview coming up). I am from southern, Ohio, so the rotation sites in northern kentucky/pikeville were important to me. Both had good facilities. LMUDCOM had an outstanding cadaver lab. Personally, LMUDCOM was a very large class, and talking to some of the students during my interview, they just didn't sell me on the school. I was not a fan of the area, but I had not seen the Knoxville campus either. Pikevilles campus was beautiful. My interview was more personable at the KYCOM interview, and the faculty seemed to really care about the well being of their students. Pikeville does really push for primary care, however that is the specialty i am interested in. I personally know a few students at Pikeville and they have good things to say about the school. Area seems nice, although it is in the middle of nowhere similar to LMUDCOM. Hope this helps! I'd love more info from you all, especially on KYCOM.
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Pick LECOM if it's still around 30k. Four years from now you'll look back and wonder why you cared about all the frivolous silly things you thought were important when picking a school when you're staring at negative 300k.
 
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Rekt said:
Pick LECOM if it's still around 30k. Four years from now you'll look back and wonder why you cared about all the frivolous silly things you thought were important when picking a school when you're staring at negative 300k.
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Agree with this, no idea why he wouldn't pick LECOM with that particular group. Especially as mandatory attendance isn't a thing apparently for him.
 
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Both of these schools are pretty weak, but I would choose KYCOM. Tuition is around $4K per year less expensive at KYCOM. It's also important to note that LMU has some kind of AOA academic warning in place, and LMU is also totally non-transparent with most of their academic performance information which is not a good sign. As a point of reference, KYCOM recently had a COMLEX Level 1 average of 471, so they are not setting the world on fire, but LMU totally refuses to even disclose their COMLEX performance information, so there you go. (As reported to US News.)
 
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Wjldenver said:
Both of these schools are pretty weak, but I would choose KYCOM. Tuition is around $4K per year less expensive at KYCOM. It's also important to note that LMU has some kind of AOA academic warning in place, and LMU is also totally non-transparent with most of their academic performance information which is not a good sign. As a point of reference, KYCOM recently had a COMLEX Level 1 average of 471, so they are not setting the world on fire, but LMU totally refuses to even disclose their COMLEX performance information, so there you go. (As reported to US News.)
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I have been told LMU's average is (edit: in the 490's apparently). No way I would do a school averaging in the 400's.


Edit: well crap this comment didn't age well. back to recommending neither school
 
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KYCOM COMLEX performance data directly from US News:

Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Examination (COMLEX-USA)

Level 1: Number examined
124
Level 1: Mean 3-digit score
471
Level 1: Mean 2-digit score
N/A
Level 2-CE: Number examined
122
Level 2-CE: Mean 3-digit score
467
Level 2-CE: Mean 2-digit score
N/A
Level 3: Number examined
74
Level 3: Mean 3-digit score
525
 
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Wjldenver said:
Both of these schools are pretty weak, but I would choose KYCOM. Tuition is around $4K per year less expensive at KYCOM. It's also important to note that LMU has some kind of AOA academic warning in place, and LMU is also totally non-transparent with most of their academic performance information which is not a good sign. As a point of reference, KYCOM recently had a COMLEX Level 1 average of 471, so they are not setting the world on fire, but LMU totally refuses to even disclose their COMLEX performance information, so there you go. (As reported to US News.)
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First time pass rate info here. No KYCOM, alas
COMLEX Level 1 First Time Pass Rates - 2012-2016
 
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Rekt said:
Pick LECOM if it's still around 30k. Four years from now you'll look back and wonder why you cared about all the frivolous silly things you thought were important when picking a school when you're staring at negative 300k.
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Yeah for real save that 20k per year
 
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Wjldenver said:
KYCOM COMLEX performance data directly from US News:

Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Examination (COMLEX-USA)

Level 1: Number examined
124
Level 1: Mean 3-digit score
471
Level 1: Mean 2-digit score
N/A
Level 2-CE: Number examined
122
Level 2-CE: Mean 3-digit score
467
Level 2-CE: Mean 2-digit score
N/A
Level 3: Number examined
74
Level 3: Mean 3-digit score
525
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Lol 460s average COMLEX Level 2
 
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Wjldenver said:
Both of these schools are pretty weak, but I would choose KYCOM. Tuition is around $4K per year less expensive at KYCOM. It's also important to note that LMU has some kind of AOA academic warning in place, and LMU is also totally non-transparent with most of their academic performance information which is not a good sign. As a point of reference, KYCOM recently had a COMLEX Level 1 average of 471, so they are not setting the world on fire, but LMU totally refuses to even disclose their COMLEX performance information, so there you go. (As reported to US News.)
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It’s only avail in deans hours
 
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BorntobeDO? said:
Whelp I guess I need to update. That sucks. Not as bad as 470, but still.

Do you know what the national average was for the 18-19 cycle?
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VCOM has it on their site i think forgot what it was may be able to find googling. Of course still pending a few takers I’d say
 
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-No way that VCOM national average for 2019 is correct, it's more like 553.
-DCOMs 2019 average was 530s. Step 1 228.
-C/o 2018 was at COMLEX average for level 1 (which was 515-520ish). 226 I believe for Step 1.
-I'd be very surprised if that KYCOM average is from c/o 2020 with the drop in overall avg. If it's from 2019 that's incredibly scary with the inflation.
-I can't speak to how they are now, but almost everything was covered in First Aid during didactics. Felt largely prepared going into dedicated. Just a lot of lazy people at this school, but a lot of hard working ones too.
-DCOM is on heightening monitoring, not a warning. Difference in violation amounts.
-I've only heard poor things about Pikeville, but I won't praise DCOM all that much either, but I'd still pick it again over Pikeville.
 
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Honestly they’re pretty comparable options. Go where you’re comfortable. I’m at KYCOM, I have a few good friends at DCOM and they’re very comparable.
KYCOM’s average level 1 is definitely down in 2020 compared to 2019, but their 2019 was over 500. It was the year of inflation.
 
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TrashCanMan said:
-No way that VCOM national average for 2019 is correct, it's more like 553.
-DCOMs 2019 average was 530s. Step 1 228.
-C/o 2018 was at COMLEX average for level 1 (which was 515-520ish). 226 I believe for Step 1.
-I'd be very surprised if that KYCOM average is from c/o 2020 with the drop in overall avg. If it's from 2019 that's incredibly scary with the inflation.
-I can't speak to how they are now, but almost everything was covered in First Aid during didactics. Felt largely prepared going into dedicated. Just a lot of lazy people at this school, but a lot of hard working ones too.
-DCOM is on heightening monitoring, not a warning. Difference in violation amounts.
-I've only heard poor things about Pikeville, but I won't praise DCOM all that much either, but I'd still pick it again over Pikeville.
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Yeah same prob. Pikeville pigeon holes more into fm stuff and has more OMM. Ain’t nobody got time for that
 
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So @IwannaBeaDictoor1234 which place did you pick eventually? I'm in the same situation but KYCOM may offer a scholarship for disadvantaged students which can reduce half of my tuition, while I haven't heard any types of scholarships from LMU
 
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jackmiller said:
So @IwannaBeaDictoor1234 which place did you pick eventually? I'm in the same situation but KYCOM may offer a scholarship for disadvantaged students which can reduce half of my tuition, while I haven't heard any types of scholarships from LMU
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Well, I have to pick by today. I think ill be choosing KYCOM because of the cost and the small class size.
 
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BorntobeDO? said:
In the spirit of trying to be helpful:
LMU has some decent rotation sites and some bad ones, the same is true for Pikeville. But LMU's good sites will probably be harder to get by 2023 with the extra campus competing for sites. Pikeville isn't great either, but the class size is smaller. LMU's non mandatory attendance is a good thing IMO, and a deciding factor in their favor if Pikeville forces you in class. I really don't like either of these as a choice, but I would go with LMU. I would probably do the Knoxville campus tho, more housing options, and I imagine that they will get to mediasite more stuff than the Harrogate home branch (similar to how NYIT-AR mostly mediasites the main NYIT-COM from what I hear). I don't see any advantage to being in Harrogate unless they are making you commute there alot.

LMU is run like a for-profit, but KYCOM is more serious about forcing you into primary care. I don't think either of those are good. But on the overall I would still probably choose LMU if that was my only choices.
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do you think both harrogate and knoxville campuses will have the same amount of rotation sites?
 
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Rozayy said:
do you think both harrogate and knoxville campuses will have the same amount of rotation sites?
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They will split the same sites. There will be added slots at the current rotation sites to cover the increase in class size. I feel fairly confident in saying that LMU is on heightened monitering for not having all 3rd year slots with resident interaction. The good news is that most of the good sites already had this and the bad ones are getting phased out due to the lack.
 
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KYCOM 1st Year here:

Pros:
-KYCOM Advantage: Provided with iPad pro, Apple Pen, e-textbooks, personal OMM table, stethoscope (cardiology IV - woohoo!) and other tools/board prep materials.
-Price: cheaper than LMU but still expensive and rising.
-LOTS of OMM to prepare for COMLEX: anecdotally, students felt well-prepared for COMLEX from in-class material.
-Living Costs: housing and every-day items are cheap, cuts down total costs.
-Dissection Cadaver Lab: 5-6 students in a group, 6 hrs/week in first semester. Lots of exposure to gross anatomy early on.

Cons:
-Low COMLEX Average: Although it rose in the previous year, it's still far below the national average. Could be d/t lower accepted average MCAT/GPA students, on average, perform lower on these large exams but I am not convinced this is the driving reason.
-Not Systems-Based Learning: I see this as a detriment but others like it!
-Not P/F: Students are given a "percent grade" instead of P/F or letter grades.
-Very Limited Research Opportunities: There are probably <5 projects in the entire school. If you want to perform research, it will more-than-likely have to be through another institution.
-Rotation Site Inconsistencies: Not sure if this is for every medical school but the list of rotation sites changes every year which can make planning really difficult.
-Mandatory Classes for 1st Semester: Super annoying personally as I am not a good in-class learner but I learned later on that attendance was used more as a gauge of effort if you are failing a course. I attended class for first 3 blocks then filtered out towards the end.

These are just the main Pros/Cons that I have noticed so far but it's far easier to complain than compliment. KYCOM is VERY proud of their large production of primary care physicians but that doesn't mean you can't match into other specialties; it will just take a little more work! If anyone has questions about KYCOM feel free to shoot me a PM.
 
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