Lawsuits

[EmD]

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Is anyone aware of any lawsuits against any medical schools, the AAMC, NRMP, or NBME by residents or students?

I'll bet you no one has won a single suit, including class action. At best and extremest case, they've been settled favorably for residents or students, but never won by anyone in the courts. Is this true? Does this mean anything?

 

[Law2Doc]

Is anyone aware of any lawsuits against any medical schools, the AAMC, NRMP, or NBME by residents or students?

On what grounds/claim? Off the top of my head, I can tell you that there have been very famous discrimination (and reverse discrimination) suits against med school admissions by applicants in the past (Bakke). If you tell us what kind of case you are inquiring about, I and others might be able to find you answers.

 

[EmD]

What's this famous case about? Where was it?

I'm surprised any discrimination suit was successful against a university.

Any class action suits that have been won by residents/students/faculty?

 

[Law2Doc]

Any class action suits that have been won by residents/students/faculty?

The Bakke case was a landmark reverse discrimination suit -- I don't recall the specifics (is first year law student constitutional law stuff) you can find details on google -- it involved one of the UC med schools (Davis?).
As to your latter question, again, on what grounds are you inquiring? (i.e for what reason would the hypothetical resident be suing) -- it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack to answer your question otherwise. Not sure this is responsive in that it isn't clear from the article whether it has been adjudicated (yet), but there is a resident class action lawsuit described on the AAMC website newsroom from a few years back -- See http://www.aamc.org/newsroom/reporter/june02/nrmp.htm . If you do a google search on resident and class action and lawsuit and medical school, you will find a variety of sites involving claims having been filed or on appeal ranging from antitrust type claims to fair labor or discrimination claims. (I have no idea whether any were successful, but to the extent they were, I'm sure schools have implemented the applicable changes to avoid future suit...)

 

[Paws]

Bakke was a white guy who was rejected from medical school and (apparently) his "place" was taken by a black guy on the basis of equal opportunity decision making. Bakke sued the medical school, saying that he deserved the place and the black guy should not have been accepted over him. There may have even been an issue of was the black guy 'qualified' and were his grades in fact lower than Bakke's, etc. That kind of thing. Case went pretty high in the courts, I believe, but Bakke lost roundly.

But! like any good story there is more to this. It seems that the guy who was accepted did not do well as a physician and was in fact forced to give up his license after some serious bungles. Still, I would do a google search just to make sure the facts are correct. My version is just the Cliff Notes form and I might have fallen uner the urban legend spell ... I don't know what happened to Bakke. (Another medical school maybe?)

This occured in about 1977 or so.

Edit:

Ok, here it is. I can't stand not having the real facts ...

http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/case/324/

 

[SouthMetal]

Im Nottsupid

 

[BlondeCookie]

Bakke was a law school reject.

 

[Indryd]

Bakke was a law school reject.

Bakke is my dad, do you think that hurts my chances at getting into med school?

 

[Magillan]

On what grounds/claim? Off the top of my head, I can tell you that there have been very famous discrimination (and reverse discrimination) suits against med school admissions by applicants in the past (Bakke). If you tell us what kind of case you are inquiring about, I and others might be able to find you answers.

I have a reverse discrimination case looking for an attorney in the San Francisco area. email me at : [email protected] Thanks!!

 

[Magillan]

I have a reverse discrimination case looking for an attorney in the San Francisco area. email me at : [email protected] Thanks!!

 

[infiniti]

So much for checking your facts. I am sure your conclusion (about him being a medical student who went through some major bungles) came from your unbiased, unprejudiced and pure soul.

Though this is a couple of years old, it is the classic example of how our prejudice affects what we think of others. Even though this guy had the link and all, he still couldn't help imagine that Bakke was a med student who lost his license becase he was "apparently" unfit to practice medicine.

I hope you would reread your post and cover your face.....what a shame!

Bakke was a white guy who was rejected from medical school and (apparently) his "place" was taken by a black guy on the basis of equal opportunity decision making. Bakke sued the medical school, saying that he deserved the place and the black guy should not have been accepted over him. There may have even been an issue of was the black guy 'qualified' and were his grades in fact lower than Bakke's, etc. That kind of thing. Case went pretty high in the courts, I believe, but Bakke lost roundly.

But! like any good story there is more to this. It seems that the guy who was accepted did not do well as a physician and was in fact forced to give up his license after some serious bungles. Still, I would do a google search just to make sure the facts are correct. My version is just the Cliff Notes form and I might have fallen uner the urban legend spell ... I don't know what happened to Bakke. (Another medical school maybe?)

This occured in about 1977 or so.

Edit:

Ok, here it is. I can't stand not having the real facts ...

http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/case/324/

 

[SemperJeff]

I don't think Paws ever said that Bakke lost his license. Paws only speculated that Bakke may have gotten into another medical school.

So much for checking your facts. I am sure your conclusion (about him being a medical student who went through some major bungles) came from your unbiased, unprejudiced and pure soul.

Though this is a couple of years old, it is the classic example of how our prejudice affects what we think of others. Even though this guy had the link and all, he still couldn't help imagine that Bakke was a med student who lost his license becase he was "apparently" unfit to practice medicine.

I hope you would reread your post and cover your face.....what a shame!

 

[SemperJeff]

And from what I've read, it seems that Bakke eventually graduated from medical school.

According to Wikipedia, it was voted that Bakke be admmitted into Davis.
Wikipedia link

And according to infoplease.com, Bakke eventually graduated in 1992. But I think that is a typo and should be 1982... Anyone know about this?
infoplease link

 

[fussygal]

duno any, but nw am readin on this forum, I think I finally got some!

 

[Law2Doc]

So much for checking your facts. I am sure your conclusion (about him being a medical student who went through some major bungles) came from your unbiased, unprejudiced and pure soul.

Though this is a couple of years old, it is the classic example of how our prejudice affects what we think of others. Even though this guy had the link and all, he still couldn't help imagine that Bakke was a med student who lost his license becase he was "apparently" unfit to practice medicine.

I hope you would reread your post and cover your face.....what a shame!

You do realize you are attacking a post written by Paws a year ago?

 

[Hersey]

You do realize you are attacking a post written by Paws a year ago?

Nothing like SDN thread paramnesia, huh? Kind of like sifting through patient files to double-check yourself on last year's appointments.

 

[MD2b20004]

Nothing like SDN thread paramnesia, huh? Kind of like sifting through patient files to double-check yourself on last year's appointments.

Similiar situation happened recently at the University of Michigan Law School. It went all the way to the Supreme Court and ruled in favor of the school, ex: The school can use race as part of the admissions standards. If I am not mistaken, University of Mich. Law School uses a point system for deciding who they admit. Just by being Black/Hispanic you get 20 free points.