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Hi all, this is going to be a two-part question. My first question is about the required length to be considered successfully "completed" on postdoc. My fellow fellows and I were recently told we have to complete all 52 weeks of a year, and will be required to burn our leave at the end to cover a gap if we take a job before that, in order to be considered completed. (Which means we have to save our leave time and can't use it.) The TD cited "licensure/APA requirements" as the reason why, and explicitly stated it wasn't the postdoc training committee or facility requirements.
However, I've been told by multiple folks (including the my internship training faculty) that in order to be considered completed by APA, you only need to finish 11 months of a year-long fellowship or 22 months of a 2 year fellowship. Additionally, the licensure requirements in my state are for 2,000 hours in a clinical setting, which adds up to 50 weeks (not 52), and several of us have started moonlighting on the side and will have additional hours from that experience. Has anyone else run into this information about the length not needing to be a full year, and if you have, can you provide a citation/link? All I've managed to find is a section of the APPIC policies that says fellowships have to be a minimum of 1500 hours. I want something solid before I go to the TD, as I don't want to be seen as trying to weasel out of my postdoc. I do like it and haven't ruled out looking for a job here if I can't put something else together.
Second (more subjective) question though - is it worth just leaving the postdoc incomplete if they are going to be this rigid about completion dates? The postdoc start date was delayed by two weeks at the last minute (unpaid, with no additional compensation for the inconvenience of having to live on credit cards for half a month) due to HR difficulties and we're being asked to stay into September, which is a bit much as I'm looking at academic (smaller college faculty or adjunct + PP) jobs.
Thoughts?
However, I've been told by multiple folks (including the my internship training faculty) that in order to be considered completed by APA, you only need to finish 11 months of a year-long fellowship or 22 months of a 2 year fellowship. Additionally, the licensure requirements in my state are for 2,000 hours in a clinical setting, which adds up to 50 weeks (not 52), and several of us have started moonlighting on the side and will have additional hours from that experience. Has anyone else run into this information about the length not needing to be a full year, and if you have, can you provide a citation/link? All I've managed to find is a section of the APPIC policies that says fellowships have to be a minimum of 1500 hours. I want something solid before I go to the TD, as I don't want to be seen as trying to weasel out of my postdoc. I do like it and haven't ruled out looking for a job here if I can't put something else together.
Second (more subjective) question though - is it worth just leaving the postdoc incomplete if they are going to be this rigid about completion dates? The postdoc start date was delayed by two weeks at the last minute (unpaid, with no additional compensation for the inconvenience of having to live on credit cards for half a month) due to HR difficulties and we're being asked to stay into September, which is a bit much as I'm looking at academic (smaller college faculty or adjunct + PP) jobs.
Thoughts?