Let's start a new pharmacy school~!

[BMBiology]

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We all know there's a HUGE demand for pharmacists right now.

I just can't believe it is so cheap to get accredited. Less than $60 k~!

$21 k for on site fee + $6 k for focus visit + $5 k for consultation visit + $3 k for self study launch consultation visit + $21 k for new school onsite visit fee

https://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/2013CS_fees.pdf

This is what I propose. I need 60 investors. Each of you send me 1 k. Forget it! I don't you pessimistic pharmacists!

I will first start a 2 year pre-pharmacy program, which does not require accreditation. I will tell students that if they maintain a GPA > 3.0, they will be guaranteed admissions to my new pharmacy school. I will then use this money to hire some foreign-trained PhDs who are in a desperate need of a H1B visa and some residency trained pharmacists who can't find a "clinical" job. I will rent out some classrooms and add a few chairs and tables. Bingo!

 

[joetrisman]

We all know there's a HUGE demand for pharmacists right now.

I just can't believe it is so cheap to get accredited. Less than $60 k~!

$21 k for on site fee + $6 k for focus visit + $5 k for consultation visit + $3 k for self study launch consultation visit + $21 k for new school onsite visit fee

https://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/2013CS_fees.pdf

This is what I propose. I need 60 investors. Each of you send me 1 k. Forget it! I don't you pessimistic pharmacists!

I will first start a 2 year pre-pharmacy program, which does not require accreditation. I will tell students that if they maintain a GPA > 3.0, they will be guaranteed admissions to my new pharmacy school. I will then use this money to hire some foreign-trained PhDs who are in a desperate need of a H1B visa and some residency trained pharmacists who can't find a "clinical" job. I will rent out some classrooms and add a few chairs and tables. Bingo!

Why rent class rooms at all? Just make it all online like creighton and have the 2 week onsite labs in your backyard

 

[BMBiology]

Worried that no one will take my students? Don't worry about it. I will offer 3 k to each rotation site for taking each of my student for 6 weeks. I am already making 40 k in tuition during their last year so 6 quality rotation sites x 3 k each = 18 k

See how much I care about my students? Unlike other pharmacy schools, I am willing to use their tuition money and pay for quality sites.

So what would happen to other students you asked? Not my problem. My students are like my babies. I only care about them!

 

[TexasSurgeon]

We all know there's a HUGE demand for pharmacists right now.

I just can't believe it is so cheap to get accredited. Less than $60 k~!

$21 k for on site fee + $6 k for focus visit + $5 k for consultation visit + $3 k for self study launch consultation visit + $21 k for new school onsite visit fee

https://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/2013CS_fees.pdf

This is what I propose. I need 60 investors. Each of you send me 1 k. Forget it! I don't you pessimistic pharmacists!

I will first start a 2 year pre-pharmacy program, which does not require accreditation. I will tell students that if they maintain a GPA > 3.0, they will be guaranteed admissions to my new pharmacy school. I will then use this money to hire some foreign-trained PhDs who are in a desperate need of a H1B visa and some residency trained pharmacists who can't find a "clinical" job. I will rent out some classrooms and add a few chairs and tables. Bingo!

LOL this just reminded me of the movie "Accepted"

 

[BMBiology]

Why rent class rooms at all? Just make it all online like creighton and have the 2 week onsite labs in your backyard

No online program. People are going to accuse me of starting a diploma mill!

Where can I find quality chairs and tables? Costco?

 

[BMBiology]

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[WVUPharm2007]

I was actually kicking around this idea in my head of putting up a sham website for the "North Philly Kensington School of Pharmacy". Have pictures of the school in a broken ass row home or warehouse somewhere around Kensington. I'll have pictures of my professors. The Med Chem professor lecturing to a class of dudes with the reaction of Sudafed to Meth on the blackboard. A practical lab where dude are sitting there trying to counterfeit scripts. Kind of make it subtle. Put that ACPE box on the bottom of the page about applying for accreditation. Then put a form on there to submit an application for admittance. I wonder if I could actually get anyone to apply.

"Dean Tyrell Watson has been a pharmacist on the streets of Philly for 8 years. His main areas of interest are the mechanisms opioid dependence and retail pharmacoeconomics."

 

[BMBiology]

I may be a little too late! I just realized there're already 129 pharmacy schools (2x compared to 10 years ago) with more than 61,000 students enrolled.

http://www.aacp.org/about/Pages/Vitalstats.aspx

What? 21 schools applied for accreditation last year? = /

https://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/ReportofProceedingsJune2012.pdf

Well this sucks! What will I tell my students? I know! I will tell them that it is no longer easy to land a pharmacist job BUT if they just work hard and network, they would not have a problem finding a job.

So here's my new school's slogan: Work hard + network = 100% $uccess. I added the $ just to emphasize the money they will be rolling in as a pharmacist. Pretty $mart huh?

 

[BMBiology]

I was actually kicking around this idea in my head of putting up a sham website for the "North Philly Kensington School of Pharmacy".

You and me need to talk my friend. If I may suggest: "North Philly Kensington $chool of Pharmacy"

 

[joetrisman]

No online program. People are going to accuse me of starting a diploma mill!

Where can I find quality chairs and tables? Costco?

You should reconsider. Online program you could hire your faculty for a 1 year contract (say you're a new school and can only do that until accreditation *think hiring pgy1-2 trained grads that cant find clinical jobs). Have them put together the curriculum and lectures. Record all the lectures. Next year, dont renew their contracts except for one kid who did a two year pharmacotherapy residency and has 300k+ in student loan debt. Have him answer all the email questions about the prerecorded lectures moving forward. Profit.


On a serious note, anyone else see academia moving to online/teleconferencing where only the best teachers keep jobs and lecture multitudes of students across multiple campuses? Why even have mediocre teachers? Just have awesome teachers and tons of grad students to grade their papers

 

[Momus]

I am in, contact me, I will provide all the funds to get accredited! Seems easy profit, we'll just have to lower the standard even more than it already is, admit applicants with GPA 2.0-3.0. I am sure there are many technicians dream about getting into a pharmacy school and we can charge them $50k/year tuition. Tell the prospective students the money you can borrow from the gov, don't worry about ability to pay it back because they will get a job making 140k right out of school!

 

[Corpseman]

Forget it! I don't you pessimistic pharmacists!

You don't me? Oh no, I don't you!

 

[BMBiology]

Seems easy profit, we'll just have to lower the standard even more than it already is, admit applicants with GPA 2.0-3.0. I am sure there are many technicians dream about getting into a pharmacy school

Excellent point! We need to drop the standard further. 2.0 GPA to apply and 2.0 to be admitted.

We need to target those who need a third chance in life so we can't emphasize on GPA.

 

[BMBiology]

You don't me? Oh no, I don't you!

LOL! I am going to offer instant admissions. You are in!

 

[BMBiology]

I am also going to offer an MBA program. It will just cost you $40 k a year and you don't need any work experience.

Seats will be limited. First come, first serve!

 

[confettiflyer]

i thought i suggested "confettiflyer's living room school of pharmacy" several years ago...BMB you're waaaay behind.👎

 

[rxlea]

The MBA thing is a good idea. That's the most common dual degree I've seen. Dual degrees are the next wagon. Seriously, a considerable number of PharmD grads are also going to have an MBA. Problem is, the majority of them all want to do the same thing with it!

MPH, MBA, MS, MHA....completely doable.

JD and PhD would be a little more difficult to establish but you could try.

 

[BMBiology]

I know people have been saying an MBA without work experience is a useless degree but they don't know what they are talking about.

Why would any school let just any students in their MBA program if there is no jobs for them? Doesn't make sense!

 

[joetrisman]

i thought i suggested "confettiflyer's living room school of pharmacy" several years ago...BMB you're waaaay behind.👎

Psssh, never patented that ish, never happened

 

[KARM12]

If you build it, they will come.

 

[Bier9999]

sry, wrong thread.

 

[rxglasshalffull]

this is such bull****. how did board of pharmacy allow these new schools to open. oh well, for me, im just gonna make my money and not even think about the future ahead.

 

[Recycled]

OMG you two are killing me. I am envisioning marketing materials such as a tshirt with this picture "Med Chem professor lecturing to a class of dudes with the reaction of Sudafed to Meth on the blackboard" on front and "NPK$OP: Get on BOARD" on back.

I just heard on the radio a first for me...an ADA ad for dental school (no particular school mind you) and the statement "you're never too old for dentistry!"

You and me need to talk my friend. If I may suggest: "North Philly Kensington $chool of Pharmacy"

 

[Kravitz]

My roommate is a prepharm and she wanted me to share this with you guys since you guys are so funny.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg4VEXnqxoE[/YOUTUBE]

 

[BelowTheMean]

Excellent point! We need to drop the standard further. 2.0 GPA to apply and 2.0 to be admitted.

We need to target those who need a third chance in life so we can't emphasize on GPA.

I'll sign up to be the founding Dean! I can think of the advertisements already!

The school will emphasize the "character of pharmacist and passion of practicing pharmacy" and not factor gpa. GPA? who cares, as long as you passed undergrad. We all know gpa has zero correlation with how great of a pharmacist you will become.

High board pass rates. We ensure that 100% of our students will pass the boards...eventually. We are so confident that our students will pass the boards that we will offer to pay for their test the 2nd time if they do not pass the first time. For whatever reason we can't think of that they can't pass it the 2nd time, we will help our students sign up for additional private bank loans to fund their subsequent tests if they can't afford it.

The school will be so focused on students, that NONE, will ever fail. No pharmacy candidate will not achieve graduation if they stick with us. Struggle with ochem? It's ok, it's not for everyone. We're here to help you not once, not twice, not three times, not four, but as many times as you need to pass it.

Interviews will be easy and accessible to everyone. We need to recruit from everywhere! Can't make it in person? We'll interview you via skype, google chat, phone, facebook. International students? Just send us your interview answers by email or snail mail as we probably wouldnt understand your english anyways.

Worried about the job market? What are you worrying about! The baby boom is here and we need more pharmacists! With obamacare we will have 30 million new insured people and they will need to fill medications. There is always a job in alaska with 100k bonus.

Still worried? We will actually hire our own students to work for us in our new planned branches as our school expands. You now, can also become part of our ever expanding faculty and can have opportunities to use your clinical knowledge to teach new pharmacy students about whatever clinical topic you want without a residency. The pay will be minimal but that's not why we are practicing pharmacy! It's not about pay and dont worry about your loans. We'll help you sign up for IBR and after 25 yrs obama will pay it for you.

 

[Angela1234]

Can I work as one of the professors at the new pharmacy school? I need a job, graduated 2 years ago from pharmacy school, cannot afford my student loans.
I don't think there's anything wrong with opening a pharmacy school- we can make tons of money off these pharmacy students and we don't have to guarantee that we have to find them a job after graduation. That's up to them. And we are not really lying- surely the new students by now know how bad the job market is and how impossible it can be to find work, yet they want to spend their money anyways.

 

[BidingMyTime]

For jobs, just do like the lawschools do, hire all recent grads to call new propective students and to hound alumni for donations.....then you can count them as having jobs and honestly state that 100% of your graduates were working 3 months after graduation. Sounds like a great gig you've come up with, count me in.

 

[confettiflyer]

For jobs, just do like the lawschools do, hire all recent grads to call new propective students and to hound alumni for donations.....then you can count them as having jobs and honestly state that 100% of your graduates were working 3 months after graduation. Sounds like a great gig you've come up with, count me in.

BMB starts the school, I'll start the residency program, lol.

I can see it now, we can start a compounding pharmacy...just staff the hell out of it with cheap residents. By the time something gets contaminated and gives everyone fungemia, we'll have pocketed $$$ and close both operations...and flee to Tennessee.

sorry...too soon?

 

[Angela1234]

For jobs, just do like the lawschools do, hire all recent grads to call new propective students and to hound alumni for donations.....then you can count them as having jobs and honestly state that 100% of your graduates were working 3 months after graduation. Sounds like a great gig you've come up with, count me in.

I wasn't aware that the law schools were doing that or that you got paid for hounding people for donations, I thought they were taking volunteers. Did you read about the lawsuit in New York years ago for law students who was suing since they found no work? I always thought the law schools counted as high %s of people who found work after graduation to include people waiting tables or anything and it didn't have to be in the legal field.

That's the great thing when you attend pharmacy schools, the school doesn't have to guarantee that you'll ever find a job when you graduate.<<<< Let alone find a job in the type of pharmacy you want to do or where you want to live. The pharmacy schools can just take your tuition money.

 

[Silent Cool]

The MBA thing is a good idea. That's the most common dual degree I've seen. Dual degrees are the next wagon. Seriously, a considerable number of PharmD grads are also going to have an MBA. Problem is, the majority of them all want to do the same thing with it!

MPH, MBA, MS, MHA....completely doable.

JD and PhD would be a little more difficult to establish but you could try.

I'm going to disagree with this. MBAs for most people are useless unless they come from a top school. Likewise, unless you are truly a natural leader, I don't think an MBA will help you very much. I've seen too many 'weak' personalities get an MBA only to be mildly more successful with it.

IMO, a JD would serve a pharmacist much better because it would open the door to patent law, which is very lucrative. It also caters much better to people who are bookworms and not the loud, beat-your-chest corporate leader types.

 

[confettiflyer]

I wasn't aware that the law schools were doing that or that you got paid for hounding people for donations,

Yup, if I remember correctly, employment rate and donations play a part of a law school's rankings. And unlike pharmacy where the rankings are 100% subjective and useless, law school rankings are pretty much the authority in what a good school is or not.

 

[knight on horse]

I may be a little too late! I just realized there're already 129 pharmacy schools (2x compared to 10 years ago) with more than 61,000 students enrolled.

http://www.aacp.org/about/Pages/Vitalstats.aspx

What? 21 schools applied for accreditation last year? = /

https://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/ReportofProceedingsJune2012.pdf

Well this sucks! What will I tell my students? I know! I will tell them that it is no longer easy to land a pharmacist job BUT if they just work hard and network, they would not have a problem finding a job.

So here's my new school's slogan: Work hard + network = 100% $uccess. I added the $ just to emphasize the money they will be rolling in as a pharmacist. Pretty $mart huh?

Hmm, a hoped for 16% increase in number of pharmacy schools just this past year? I knew it was good business

Didn't realize accreditation was so cheap. It pays to be thorough. I may consider this deal, dear chap. The potential problem is getting late on the bandwagon; as with getting into school, so with opening a school.