Life after pharmacy school

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Life after pharmacy school... probably living with parents and working 60 hours a week to pay debt. I can't stand watching my student debt rise considering that the amount interns make isn't even a drop in the bucket.
 
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I am looking forward to making more money and finally pursuing my financial goals. I spent P4 year learning about personal finance and how to manage money and now that I have graduated I am so eager to begin. Just passed he mpje and studying for the naplex now.
Short term (3-5 year) goals are to work as much as possible to pay down student loans (200K, 5-6 years to pay off hopefully) and my car (18K left, 2-3 years to pay off).
Long term: Figure our where I want to be in terms of career and pursue it.


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It seems like everyone here is more interested in perusing financial goals and personal hobbies rather than thinking about starting a family. Is that correct?
 
Those with kids have stayed out of the coversation because paying for daycare isnt very exciting

Down to $341/week!!!
 
no 7 days straight no days off the week after. definitely not worth it.
Wouldn't that mean you continued to work more than 7 days straight if you had no days off the week after? 😛

I do 14-15 days straight quite often, and I have a 20 day stretch coming up, but I work from home 4 days a week so that reduces the energy expenditure quite a bit.
 
Whenever you want. I had my first in the middle of 4th year rotations. Had my second last year when I had been out of school for two years. I was a non trad, age 29 and 33.

Ideally I would have liked to have more of my loans paid off but you make do. One paycheck goes to daycare and one goes to my loans. Im going to be ballin out of control in 5 years.

Get a dog first. Theyre good practice. Controlling bad behaviors, having to be home, ruining your house, not being able to travel easily....
 
Wouldn't that mean you continued to work more than 7 days straight if you had no days off the week after? 😛

I do 14-15 days straight quite often, and I have a 20 day stretch coming up, but I work from home 4 days a week so that reduces the energy expenditure quite a bit.

What kind of job do you have that allows to work from home, if you don't mind me asking?
 
Remote verification. Probably something that you will never hear about in pharmacy school because it ain't as glamorous as clinical pharmacy.

We had people come in to talk about remote verification opportunities at my school. Gist of it was this company (and many others) want at least 3-5 years of live, in-house inpatient experience.

I'd consider it at some point in the future, but I'd probably want to draw a face on a volleyball at some point.

Don't forget remote PA review for PBM's, my friend does it from her bed on Saturday mornings (for emergency review) in addition to having an office/desk.

Pfizer and other companies allow their employees (when possible) to flex a day and work from home, it's just up to you to know what day is best given your schedule (most meetings can be remotely attended).
 
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Remote verification. Probably something that you will never hear about in pharmacy school because it ain't as glamorous as clinical pharmacy.

Is it hard to get one of those jobs as a new grad? Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting a job like this while I'm in school?

BTW, do you mind if I ask for the names of some of the companies that hire pharmacists to work from home doing remote verification? Just wanted to bookmark them early on so I can potentially apply for jobs with them in the future. Thanks ....
 
Is it hard to get one of those jobs as a new grad? Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting a job like this while I'm in school?

BTW, do you mind if I ask for the names of some of the companies that hire pharmacists to work from home doing remote verification? Just wanted to bookmark them early on so I can potentially apply for jobs with them in the future. Thanks ....
People on here have posted about express scripts and Walgreens doing remote work. But I think they hire internally for the most part.
 
People on here have posted about express scripts and Walgreens doing remote work. But I think they hire internally for the most part.

I forget their names, but I think there are also a few companies out there that hire pharmacists to work on a 1099 basis giving med. advice over the phone/chat, kind of as an on-the-side job (I think one of them says that pharmacists have to work at least 10 hours a week, but they're allowed to log-in to the system and work pretty much anytime). Seems like it would be nice to make some extra cash on the side.

Regarding Express Scripts, Walgreens, and other companies that hire pharmacists to do FT work from home -- do you know if the pharmacist has to live in certain states? Reason I ask is because I heard that if they don't have a mail order pharmacy location in the pharmacist's state, they can't do the work-from-home thing.
 
Is it hard to get one of those jobs as a new grad? Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting a job like this while I'm in school?
Doing this job as a new grad will be extremely difficult. You need to know every drug and product in detail because you won't have them in front of you, nor will you have time to keep on looking things up. You will also need to know everything about how pharmacies operate and what pharmacists usually do to handle all the different issues, so that you can efficiently fit into the workflow. It's definitely a job for introverts because you will have very little outside contact, but you need to be able to focus on work by yourself. Actually I think you can pick these things up with 1 year of retail experience for retail or mail-order remote verification. Not sure what experience hospital requires, but I know HCA does it.
Regarding Express Scripts, Walgreens, and other companies that hire pharmacists to do FT work from home -- do you know if the pharmacist has to live in certain states? Reason I ask is because I heard that if they don't have a mail order pharmacy location in the pharmacist's state, they can't do the work-from-home thing.
Yes, state pharmacy laws and the companies do restrict where you can work from.
 
Doing this job as a new grad will be extremely difficult. You need to know every drug and product in detail because you won't have them in front of you, nor will you have time to keep on looking things up. You will also need to know everything about how pharmacies operate and what pharmacists usually do to handle all the different issues, so that you can efficiently fit into the workflow. It's definitely a job for introverts because you will have very little outside contact, but you need to be able to focus on work by yourself. Actually I think you can pick these things up with 1 year of retail experience for retail or mail-order remote verification. Not sure what experience hospital requires, but I know HCA does it.

Yes, state pharmacy laws and the companies do restrict where you can work from.

Thanks for the insight. From the research I've done on the companies that have been mentioned so far, it doesn't look like there would be very many work at home opportunities for people who live in GA or AL (I think I saw that Express Scripts has a location in Atlanta, but that's it). So does that mean I would have to live in Atlanta if I wanted to qualify for a work at home job with them? Or could I live anywhere in GA as long as the company has a location in the state?

I was hoping to be able to do 1-2 years of retail pharmacy and then see about applying for one of the remote verification jobs, but I'm not sure if I'd have to move or not.... ?
 
Thanks for the insight. From the research I've done on the companies that have been mentioned so far, it doesn't look like there would be very many work at home opportunities for people who live in GA or AL (I think I saw that Express Scripts has a location in Atlanta, but that's it). So does that mean I would have to live in Atlanta if I wanted to qualify for a work at home job with them? Or could I live anywhere in GA as long as the company has a location in the state?

I was hoping to be able to do 1-2 years of retail pharmacy and then see about applying for one of the remote verification jobs, but I'm not sure if I'd have to move or not.... ?
I think most companies will make you work in their central office for a while until they know that you are competent and meeting all productivity metrics. Then they can set you loose to work from home, which can be anywhere in the same state.
 
I think most companies will make you work in their central office for a while until they know that you are competent and meeting all productivity metrics. Then they can set you loose to work from home, which can be anywhere in the same state.

Thanks for the info. Besides Express Scripts (who I think has an office in GA), do you know of any other companies with those kinds of jobs that I could research that might be located in GA? So far, Express Scripts (if it's the company I'm thinking about) is the only one I've found.

BTW, in your experience, how do the salaries for remote verification jobs compare to typical retail chain salaries?
 
Thanks for the info. Besides Express Scripts (who I think has an office in GA), do you know of any other companies with those kinds of jobs that I could research that might be located in GA? So far, Express Scripts (if it's the company I'm thinking about) is the only one I've found.

BTW, in your experience, how do the salaries for remote verification jobs compare to typical retail chain salaries?
Not sure about GA, but beware that these facilities are susceptible to mass layoffs when contracts are lost or companies merge. For example, there was a Medco facility in Tampa which was bought out by Express Scripts and then shut down resulting in over 200 RPh getting laid off. So the facilities that you look at now may not even be there when you graduate. Anyway, look for the big mail order places like Express Scripts, CVS Caremark, United Healthcare/Optum Rx.

Pay is low to mid 50s/hr, which is a few dollars less than retail, at least in FL, but you more than make up for it in the money, time and energy that you save from working at home. No commuting time and car expenses. T-shirt and shorts everyday. Lunch in your own kitchen. etc...
 
Is it hard to get one of those jobs as a new grad? Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting a job like this while I'm in school?

BTW, do you mind if I ask for the names of some of the companies that hire pharmacists to work from home doing remote verification? Just wanted to bookmark them early on so I can potentially apply for jobs with them in the future. Thanks ....
You can get hired in a remote verification position with zero experience in some hospital systems. These are not the jobs experienced pharmacists want unless it comes with a work from home option. For now it is more common for the remote pharmacists to be in an office somewhere on campus or in a central off site location.

Aurora Health in Milwaukee is an example of the staffing model I am referring to. If you do a quick job search you will just about always find an open position in their central order verification department. It is separate from the inpatient pharmacy department. Not sure if any staff get to work from home or not.

Unfortunately, for those of us in hybrid clinical positions this appears to be the latest trend. I love my unit days and don't mind staffing. Having both keeps me engaged.Sitting in an office verifying orders all day with no in person contact with docs, nurses, or patients sounds terrible to me.