List of all good 4 year OMFS programs nationwide!!

[OMFS08]

Does anyone have a list or idea of all or some of the good 4 yr OMFS programs nationwide? Thanks 😱

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[hammoudeh71]

It's a very subjective issue. But what comes to mind: Maryland, Washington hospital center, Carle clinic, u of Washington, u of Minnesota, vanderbilt, ut Houston, BU, Jackson memorial, OSU, UMDNJ, VCU, montefiore, Emory, Oklahoma, Iowa...

 

[OMFS08]

It's a very subjective issue. But what comes to mind: Maryland, Washington hospital center, Carle clinic, u of Washington, u of Minnesota, vanderbilt, ut Houston, BU, Jackson memorial, OSU, UMDNJ, VCU, montefiore, Emory, Oklahoma, Iowa...

I got most of those applied to. Thanks a lot!!! Keeping my fingers crossed for some interviews!

 

[GTFOOMICT]

Well, Oklahoma is bottom shelf.

 

[hammoudeh71]

Well, Oklahoma is bottom shelf.

Well that's the only one I was hesitant to list! I never received conclusive input about it, but why would u say that anyway?

 

[OMFS08]

Well, Oklahoma is bottom shelf.

Do you have first hand experience or did someone tell you about the program? 😕

 

[keeneye]

Are we going to make a distinction between scope of residency and quality of training. This is important and sets programs apart.

 

[DaleDoback]

Well, Oklahoma is bottom shelf.

Haha. Parkland would be a decent 4 year program. I thought it wasn't a great 6 year program, but might be worth hanging out there for 4 years.

Dont let him BS you. Oklahoma is a solid 4 year. Easiest people to ask are other program directors for recommendations. I'd also second the recs for Iowa and VCU, but personally didn't like Miami. Again, it's all personal preference.

 

[GTFOOMICT]

Do you have first hand experience or did someone tell you about the program? 😕

I hear their log books are loaded with dentoalveolar, 3rds, implants, trauma, path, craniofacial, sedations, and TMJ. It's really not what I'm looking for in a residency.

 

[DaleDoback]

I was really hoping for more central/lateral incisor extraction experience from Oklahoma, especially in the mandible. How can you even build a program without taking out front teeth?

 

[OMFS08]

I hear their log books are loaded with dentoalveolar, 3rds, implants, trauma, path, craniofacial, sedations, and TMJ. It's really not what I'm looking for in a residency.

Those sound all nice to me. Those areas are where I want to place emphasis in when I complete my training + a few orthognathics of course. Thanks for your input though.

 

[OMFS08]

I was really hoping for more central/lateral incisor extraction experience from Oklahoma, especially in the mandible. How can you even build a program without taking out front teeth?

Hahahahahh that sounds rather strange! Are you sure? 🙄

 

[Muggsy Bogues]

Sarcasm detection courses are a huge part of the didactics at Oklahoma. You should apply to OU, OMFS08.

 

[OMFS08]

Sarcasm detection courses are a huge part of the didactics at Oklahoma. You should apply to OU, OMFS08.

lol. I would but I'm all out of sarcasm detection solution lol.

 

[superfinger45]

A good program is totally subjective and based on what kind of scope you want to be exposed to. If you really want to cut cancer cases then Maryland is a awesome program, but if you don't then it's probably one of the worst programs for you.

I think overall Iklahoma is one of if not the best program in the country, if you want LOTS of craniofacial/cleft exposure Oklahoma does a TON and you're not just holding sticks the whole time. If you want Orthognathics, it's hard to rival the amount, strong trauma exposure (it's the only Level 1 trauma hosp in the state). Compared to other programs I've seen it is very strong in sedations, you will be more than prepared to start private practice. Lots of TMJ exposure. Also, the residents there were awesome, and you cant put a price on having cool coresidents. No cancer at all, so if that's your desire then Oklahoma is a poor program. One of the attending is plastics trained, so there is the opportunity to do that but it isn't a main focus. The last few years implants have been light but should pick up again.

Top notch program, easily one of the best around.

 

[OMFS08]

A good program is totally subjective and based on what kind of scope you want to be exposed to. If you really want to cut cancer cases then Maryland is a awesome program, but if you don't then it's probably one of the worst programs for you.

I think overall Iklahoma is one of if not the best program in the country, if you want LOTS of craniofacial/cleft exposure Oklahoma does a TON and you're not just holding sticks the whole time. If you want Orthognathics, it's hard to rival the amount, strong trauma exposure (it's the only Level 1 trauma hosp in the state). Compared to other programs I've seen it is very strong in sedations, you will be more than prepared to start private practice. Lots of TMJ exposure. Also, the residents there were awesome, and you cant put a price on having cool coresidents. No cancer at all, so if that's your desire then Oklahoma is a poor program. One of the attending is plastics trained, so there is the opportunity to do that but it isn't a main focus. The last few years implants have been light but should pick up again.

Top notch program, easily one of the best around.

What program are you at if you don't mind me asking?

 

[CutUrFace]

I got most of those applied to. Thanks a lot!!! Keeping my fingers crossed for some interviews!

This thread really seems to be kind of a joke, I'm assuming most are dental students or dentists who really have no first hand knowledge of any of these residencies. I don't think that anyone who is actually informed would agree with what is being said here. OK is actually a really solid place (I am not affiliated with the program). BU, Minnesota, Maryland, Jackson Memorial, UMDNJ...while all nice places, I have no idea where hammoudeh71 is getting this information from. There are many good programs around the country. Truth be told there are very few which are rock solid top to bottom and some which are really pretty bad. Most have some areas of real strength, some areas of mediocracy, and a bit deficient in an area or two.

 

[hammoudeh71]

This thread really seems to be kind of a joke, I'm assuming most are dental students or dentists who really have no first hand knowledge of any of these residencies. I don't think that anyone who is actually informed would agree with what is being said here. OK is actually a really solid place (I am not affiliated with the program). BU, Minnesota, Maryland, Jackson Memorial, UMDNJ...while all nice places, I have no idea where hammoudeh71 is getting this information from. There are many good programs around the country. Truth be told there are very few which are rock solid top to bottom and some which are really pretty bad. Most have some areas of real strength, some areas of mediocracy, and a bit deficient in an area or two.

First of all I started my post with the sentence "it's a very subjective issue", so you don't need to question where I got my information. Besides, I named some of the overall good programs (with which anyone has the right to disagree, cuz it's subjective!), I never said those are the only good ones and the rest suck. Anyways my sources are omfs faculty at my school, omfs residents in different programs (friends of mine), and dental students with variable externship experiences (also friends of mine in different schools).

 

[OMFS08]

This thread really seems to be kind of a joke, I'm assuming most are dental students or dentists who really have no first hand knowledge of any of these residencies. I don't think that anyone who is actually informed would agree with what is being said here. OK is actually a really solid place (I am not affiliated with the program). BU, Minnesota, Maryland, Jackson Memorial, UMDNJ...while all nice places, I have no idea where hammoudeh71 is getting this information from. There are many good programs around the country. Truth be told there are very few which are rock solid top to bottom and some which are really pretty bad. Most have some areas of real strength, some areas of mediocracy, and a bit deficient in an area or two.

Thanks for your input, what program are you at if you do not mind me asking? Thanks

 

[OMFS08]

Does anyone know about the program at UOP/ACMC? Got an interview there and I'm wondering. Thanks

 

[Michael Scarn]

Does anyone know about the program at UOP/ACMC? Got an interview there and I'm wondering. Thanks

Good program. Strengths are orthognathics at Kaiser, trauma at Highland hospital, and DA/ implants at uop. Weaknesses are the unstable faculty base.

 

[OMFS08]

Good program. Strengths are orthognathics at Kaiser, trauma at Highland hospital, and DA/ implants at uop. Weaknesses are the unstable faculty base.

Thank you so much.

 

[Regmata]

OSU is very strong in DA, implants, anesthesia, TMJ, and orthognathics. Pretty strong in trauma, path and craniofacial. Weak in cancer and cosmetics.

As a side not, craniofacial experience includes working w/ craniofacial team consisting of PRS, ENT, SLP, and orthodontics. OMFS work w/ dental tx planning, extractions along and closure of alveolar cleft, often w/ hip grafts. Lip and palate surgical experience is more limited and is primarily obtained on a mission trip to Guatemala. There is also the opportunity for OR time when rotating w/ PRS.