Listing a Publication and Presentation from the same project on CV

[ChessMaster3000]

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Is it the standard to list the same project under both the "presentation" and "publication" sections? I don't want to do this, but I'm not sure how to combine them into the same section since other presentations did not come with publications and vice-versa. Any tips on how to do this well.

Also, is it even worth putting a publication if youre not one of the top 3 authors?

 

[operaman]

I always list my presentations and publications under their own sections even if it's the same project. Getting a journal pub does not erase the fact you presented it earlier. I think the only faux pas is presenting the same project at multiple meetings and listing all of them as separate presentations. Most conferences will have rules stating that you can't have presented or published your talk previously, though some local/regional meetings may be okay with this.

Definitely list any and all pubs regardless of which author you are.

 

[DermViser]

If you orally presented something then put it down. If you published something, then put it down. I agree with operaman above, a publication doesn't "erase" the presentation.

 

[ChessMaster3000]

I always list my presentations and publications under their own sections even if it's the same project. Getting a journal pub does not erase the fact you presented it earlier. I think the only faux pas is presenting the same project at multiple meetings and listing all of them as separate presentations. Most conferences will have rules stating that you can't have presented or published your talk previously, though some local/regional meetings may be okay with this.

Definitely list any and all pubs regardless of which author you are.

ok thanks for the input. i just find it hard to believe that its not seen as "why'd they even bother" when listing something at 5th or 6th author. nobody else gets this sense? especially for an abstract, non manuscript

 

[operaman]

Well theoretically the people listed as authors -- any author -- have had substantial involvement with the project. This isn't always the case, but should be. I've got an nth author basic science pub on my CV that I did a LOT of work on but for a brief period of a rather long project. Even so, I can confidently stand behind the data and the findings and feel like it's worth listing and speaks to my involvement in a large basic science project.

Perhaps more importantly for us as students, having it listed serves to objectively quantify your involvement in the project in a way that simply listing is as an ongoing project does not.