Listing College Previously Attend

[ongbacsiLE]

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Hello SDNers,
Question on previously college attended, if I registered for a college but did not take any course at the college do I still list this college for this portion of the application?

 

[TPappy]

From what I have read, any college in which you enrolled, even if you did not take classes, you must list. Seems fishy if you don't anyway.

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[DBC03]

Hello SDNers,
Question on previously college attended, if I registered for a college but did not take any course at the college do I still list this college for this portion of the application?

I'm not sure. I need to call to ask as I did register at one college, but never actually took classes, so they removed my enrollment. I never even considered trying to list it - the application states to list colleges attended. I'm not sure what you would put in that space. I enrolled as non-degree seeking, so I didn't even have to do a traditional application.

 

[ongbacsiLE]

From what I have read, any college in which you enrolled, even if you did not take classes, you must list. Seems fishy if you don't anyway.

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Thanks and lol at the vietnamese.
If we do have to list it then does that mean I would need to request a transcript from the school? although it is a blank transcript.

 

[TPappy]

Thanks and lol at the vietnamese.
If we do have to list it then does that mean I would need to request a transcript from the school? although it is a blank transcript.

No problem haha.

And on the last question, that I am even less sure of! If you never attended, I imagine no transcript even exists?

 

[aformerstudent]

I wouldn't list a college I never took courses at. Hell, I wouldn't list a college if I didn't transfer any courses. You got to look out for yourself sometimes. When I went through the application process, I had to actually remind some of these schools where I went to school. They don't scrutinize your app like you'd be led to believe. Do it at your own risk though.

 

[TPappy]

I wouldn't list a college I never took courses at. Hell, I wouldn't list a college if I didn't transfer any courses. You got to look out for yourself sometimes. When I went through the application process, I had to actually remind some of these schools where I went to school. They don't scrutinize your app like you'd be led to believe. Do it at your own risk though.

I have heard, though secondhand I will admit, that offers have been rescinded to students when schools found that they left past coursework off of their records. Even if that is wrong, I would err on the side of caution myself. I would rather overshare and be safe myself. Especially when something so important is on the line. But really, who knows what goes on once we hit submit.

 

[ongbacsiLE]

I don't have anything to hide so there is no use risking it.

 

[DBC03]

I'm still confused on why there is a question about listing a school that you never actually attended. I signed up for two biology classes as a non-degree seeking student, but then cancelled those classes and attended a different school. I never took a single class there. How in the world would I even list that school?

 

[TPappy]

Just to be clear, I am not 100% certain on all these things, but I found some info in the past that you have to list every school you even enrolled at (college + schools), because I was hoping I could omit my terrible community college grades from 10+years ago. From what I found you need to list every enrollment, and they will see them on the student clearing warehouse anyway. Again, not 100%, but that is what I recall from my researching before.

 

[DBC03]

From the 2018 AMCAS manual:

"List every post-secondary institution where you were enrolled for at least one course, even if credits have been transferred, no credits were earned, or you withdrew. "

It appears that if you did not actually take a class (i.e. You signed up but then cancelled), you don't have to list that as a college. If you took a class for 0 credits or officially withdrew half way through the class, etc., you have to list it.

 

[TPappy]

From the 2018 AMCAS manual:

"List every post-secondary institution where you were enrolled for at least one course, even if credits have been transferred, no credits were earned, or you withdrew. "

It appears that if you did not actually take a class (i.e. You signed up but then cancelled), you don't have to list that as a college. If you took a class for 0 credits or officially withdrew half way through the class, etc., you have to list it.

Fantastic!! Thank you for looking that up, now we all know!

 

[ongbacsiLE]

Thank you so much for looking that up!

 

[darmalee]

I can't imagine you would need to list a school you didn't take a class from. If anything, it would look like you messed up and forgot to list classes that you took there. It's not like there is a national repository where they plug in your name and all the schools you ever enrolled in spits out. For the most part, what you put on your application is taken at face value unless a reason arises to question something.

 

[Goro]

I can't imagine you would need to list a school you didn't take a class from. If anything, it would look like you messed up and forgot to list classes that you took there. It's not like there is a national repository where they plug in your name and all the schools you ever enrolled in spits out. For the most part, what you put on your application is taken at face value unless a reason arises to question something.

Actually, there is a national clearinghouse for stuff like this. Don't remember the name but it is out there, and Admissions deans DO due diligence by checking people's transcripts.

 

[gyngyn]

I wouldn't list a college I never took courses at. Hell, I wouldn't list a college if I didn't transfer any courses. You got to look out for yourself sometimes. When I went through the application process, I had to actually remind some of these schools where I went to school. They don't scrutinize your app like you'd be led to believe. Do it at your own risk though.

Both AMCAS and individual schools routinely filter data through the National Clearinghouse for evidence of "forgotten" classes.
If there is any indication that the oversight was intentional, it will lead to an investigation that can have a chilling effect on the application as well as the applicant.

 

[darmalee]

Actually, there is a national clearinghouse for stuff like this. Don't remember the name but it is out there, and Admissions deans DO due diligence by checking people's transcripts.

Oh wow. I stand corrected. Thanks for the info!

 

[DBC03]

Actually, there is a national clearinghouse for stuff like this. Don't remember the name but it is out there, and Admissions deans DO due diligence by checking people's transcripts.

I read through some other threads and found this:
National Student Clearinghouse
which is one of at least a few.

I'm assuming if a class was cancelled before the semester began (and the student didn't pay money, etc.) that it wouldn't be listed as an enrollment? But if you did take a class, and then later forgot about it, it would still be listed?

 

[Goro]

I read through some other threads and found this:
National Student Clearinghouse
which is one of at least a few.

I'm assuming if a class was cancelled before the semester began (and the student didn't pay money, etc.) that it wouldn't be listed as an enrollment? But if you did take a class, and then later forgot about it, it would still be listed?

Ask AMCAS

 

[aformerstudent]

Not every school is listed in the clearinghouse. Mine isn't.

 

[gyngyn]

Banking on a US school not appearing in the Clearinghouse is unwise.
Foreign transcripts are not required or confirmed by AMCAS.

 

[TPappy]

Banking on a US school not appearing in the Clearinghouse is unwise.
Foreign transcripts are not required or confirmed by AMCAS.

I think, based on everything I have read, even if your school doesn't appear in the clearinghouse, all of us who are applicants just need to approach this with 100% openness and clarity. For instance, I have terrible performance from 10 years ago at a community college, before I got my life together. I would love for that to be exclude-able in my application, but it isn't. So I am going to include everything and be an open book. I am an awesome student now, and I hope that med schools will be able to see that. If not, so be it. But we should all, if anything, err on the side of caution and include everything that may be even tangentially pertinent to applying. If it is not related, it will be ignored on their end, if it is related, they want it.

 

[silleme]

Having just transferred schools and gone through this for undergrad - I enrolled in a school, signed up for classes and withdrew prior to attending. They show up on the National Clearinghouse check as though I was a student there at one time. The school was more than willing to provide a letter on their letterhead stating they could not generate a transcript for me as I dropped before the add/drop date. Your school may be different, but if you can get them to generate this letter and submit to AMCAS, that will cover your butt if/when it shows up on the check.

 

[DBC03]

Having just transferred schools and gone through this for undergrad - I enrolled in a school, signed up for classes and withdrew prior to attending. They show up on the National Clearinghouse check as though I was a student there at one time. The school was more than willing to provide a letter on their letterhead stating they could not generate a transcript for me as I dropped before the add/drop date. Your school may be different, but if you can get them to generate this letter and submit to AMCAS, that will cover your butt if/when it shows up on the check.

How did you check on the National Clearinghouse? I'm intrigued since I signed up for classes as "non-degree seeking" at one school, then dropped classes. I then tried enrolling as post-bac, but they later rescinded my acceptance since I could not make it to the orientation. Seems like just one more thing I really don't want to worry about...

 

[silleme]

The school I transferred to insisted I get a transcript from this school I never attended, so I'm guessing they use the service. You can look at a list of the participating schools here: DegreeVerify Schools | National Student Clearinghouse

 

[DBC03]

The school I transferred to insisted I get a transcript from this school I never attended, so I'm guessing they use the service. You can look at a list of the participating schools here: DegreeVerify Schools | National Student Clearinghouse

I wish I could look my name up. I wonder if it is easier to deal with on a school-by-school basis or if AMCAS Will be wondering .Perhaps wait for a question about it? I'm looking at my rescinded admissions email right now, so I'm hoping if they rescinded my acceptance I am not considered as enrolled.

 

[silleme]

Worst case they'll send a letter of non-enrollment to AMCAS and no harm, no foul. If you're in a different school now, maybe the registrar's or admissions office can check whether it is or is not on your record.

 

[DBC03]

The school I transferred to insisted I get a transcript from this school I never attended, so I'm guessing they use the service. You can look at a list of the participating schools here: DegreeVerify Schools | National Student Clearinghouse

I just talked with the school and they have me listed as "inactive." But they told me to wait as it is possible I'm listed with the clearinghouse, but it's not likely and it's easier to get a verification of enrollment that way. Of all the things I'm worried about this week (we're in the middle of an endless move, I have a job interview tomorrow, and I want to get my application in today), this is not something I want to add to the list.

 

[DBC03]

Worst case they'll send a letter of non-enrollment to AMCAS and no harm, no foul. If you're in a different school now, maybe the registrar's or admissions office can check whether it is or is not on your record.

Didn't even think of that! Might be a good idea.