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LIzzyM 72 decent EC, URM half asian half hispanic. Chances at top tier?
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good EC's and letters?
probably a chance, but don't risk wasting a year by only swinging for the fences
probably a chance, but don't risk wasting a year by only swinging for the fences
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a mod will eventually find it and do it for you....don't stress....it happens
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Don't worry about it. Moving to WAMC.
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If I may ask, what is your ethnicity? Do you speak Spanish? Have you had any service experience in underserved communities? How much research experience?
My ethnicity is Southeast Asian, racially I am that southeast asian and hispanic (I was very socioeconomic disadvantage up until I am 17 senior year in high school and moved to US then). No Spanish but I speak my native language. I have served underserved comm in US, not native country. Research is about 300 hours junior year (whole year) and got a fellowship over the summer with a stipend for research, and both are independent research, with very few guidance from mentors.
Thanks for the response. You are the beacon light to lost people like me. Much like M to Bond
and sorry if it helps, I will becoming from a top 25 college based on USNews and applying this cycle
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Hispanic is not a race, it is an ethnicity. According to the US Census:
Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino categories listed on the Census 2010 questionnaire -"Mexican," "Puerto Rican", or "Cuban"-as well as those who indicate that they are "another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin." People who do not identify with one of the specific origins listed on the questionnaire but indicate that they are "another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin" are those whose origins are from Spain, the Spanish-speaking countries of Central or South America, or the Dominican Republic. The terms "Hispanic," "Latino," and "Spanish" are used interchangeably.
Origin can be view as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States.
People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race. Thus, the percent Hispanic should not be added to percentages for racial categories.
Unless your ethnicity is Mexican, mainland Puerto Rican, or perhaps Central American, or Dominican, your Hispanic heritage will not get you much traction. This goes double if you were born in a non-Spanish speaking country outside of the US.
You might have a decent chance at some private mid-tiers but I wouldn't count on the top-tiers unless your GPA >3.7 and MCAT > 35 which doesn't seem to be the case given what you've told us.
Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino categories listed on the Census 2010 questionnaire -"Mexican," "Puerto Rican", or "Cuban"-as well as those who indicate that they are "another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin." People who do not identify with one of the specific origins listed on the questionnaire but indicate that they are "another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin" are those whose origins are from Spain, the Spanish-speaking countries of Central or South America, or the Dominican Republic. The terms "Hispanic," "Latino," and "Spanish" are used interchangeably.
Origin can be view as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States.
People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race. Thus, the percent Hispanic should not be added to percentages for racial categories.
Unless your ethnicity is Mexican, mainland Puerto Rican, or perhaps Central American, or Dominican, your Hispanic heritage will not get you much traction. This goes double if you were born in a non-Spanish speaking country outside of the US.
You might have a decent chance at some private mid-tiers but I wouldn't count on the top-tiers unless your GPA >3.7 and MCAT > 35 which doesn't seem to be the case given what you've told us.
My mother was born in a hispanic land (ethnically she is full hispanic) and my father was born in SOutheast Asia country (ethnically and racially he is southeast asian). I was born in southeast asia country and raised there. my gpa is 3.9 mcat is 33. What is your take on this?
Sorry, so in my opinion I am ethnically hispanic. Since according to definition of origin, it is heritage and lineage. And in my heritage and lineage, I have my mothers hispanic blood. I also know a lot of mexicans that were born in US to hispanic parents raised in affluent communities, but identify themselves as hispanic because of their parents lineage and heritage.
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Identifying as Hispanic is not equivalent to being under-represented in medicine. Some Hispanics are actually over-represented. Language skills are always appreciated, so it is not too late to start working on that.
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Hispanic ethnicity has nothing to do with affluence or poverty so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up in connection with your childhood and the Mexicans you know.
Every medical school can choose to define URM as it chooses. If your mother's country of origin puts you into URM territory, then you might do well, even at top tier schools. Others may note that you don't speak Spanish or seem to have ties to US immigrants from that country and disregard your Hispanic ethnicity. (The point is to find applicants who will go into underserved communities and be identified as a member of those communities. If your last name isn't Hispanic and you don't speak Spanish or have experience with the community, what's the point?)
Your MCAT is on the low side for the top tiers but not out of the question. Apply broadly.
Every medical school can choose to define URM as it chooses. If your mother's country of origin puts you into URM territory, then you might do well, even at top tier schools. Others may note that you don't speak Spanish or seem to have ties to US immigrants from that country and disregard your Hispanic ethnicity. (The point is to find applicants who will go into underserved communities and be identified as a member of those communities. If your last name isn't Hispanic and you don't speak Spanish or have experience with the community, what's the point?)
Your MCAT is on the low side for the top tiers but not out of the question. Apply broadly.
Really appreciate your advise. i have expressed in AMCAS that I would like to serve underserved community and have proven it by volunteering in the underserved area. Thank you for the advice
When you are speaking of top tiers, what is the ranking according to USnews? I am talking about top 30 schools. And I applied to 21 schools all the way from top, middle, and bottom tier
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Well if you've already applied then good luck to you. Come back this time next year & let us know how things turned out so others can learn from your experience.
Just one last question question: so some may perceive me as URM and some may not?
Thank you for advice and I will let everyone know how everything turns out.
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In some states, Filipino may get some URM 'cred', so if that is the SE Asian in question, you should say so. Also learning some Spanish would be a really good thing...
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Filipinos are under-represented in US colleges and are the object of active recruitment at many. However, The Phillipines are historically the second largest exporters of IMG physicians (after India) to the US, thus they are not under-represented in medicine.
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I don't ever see this happen and it really should! That would be so helpful to SDN.
Med students do come back if you did not know! they give some valuable infos
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Interesting! Clearly, I did not know this, so I stand corrected --
