Loan Repayment / Job offer question

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If you had the ability to pay off student loans in residency, would you? Is it worth doing so, or would I risk losing out on job offers that offer loan repayment/forgiveness?

What kind of jobs would these be and what would one be expected to do to qualify for this?
 
No, you won't lose out on any job offers! Pay off loans as soon as you can, rather than allowing interest to pile up. I pay off my highest interest debt first. The less in debt you are, the more freedom you will have to practice where you want, when you want, or even at all.

Jobs that help pay off med school debt want something in return, usually a set amount of time employed in good standing with good performance. These positions are most often in less desirable locations or settings, like the VA or in rural or public mental health clinics. There are good jobs that help pay off loans, but for me, I prefer freedom to do as I like if I can.
 
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I think the answer to your question depends on many different individual circumstances. Your circumstances will also determine if you “have the ability.” The general rule is that you should take out as little as you need and pay back as much / as fast as you can. But I think some perspective is helpful, too, as I believe money is a means and many people get so focused on it that having the money in your account/investments and never utilizing it is the ultimate ends, but I digress.

If you’re single and your decisions only affect you, by all means pay those babies off. But if you’re married and/or have dependents, what you’ll need to ask yourself is how much is a dollar worth to you in residency vs. how much that same dollar (or more) is worth to you as an attending. While I was in residency I did enough moonlighting to more than double income, though I did not put any of that toward additional student loan payments (not saying that’s right or wrong). My thought was moonlighting money represents time away from my family and we used that money for things that more directly benefitted our family. A big thing was that a thousand dollars to us then on a much lower income was worth more than two thousand dollars in the future on a much higher income.
 
I think the answer to your question depends on many different individual circumstances. Your circumstances will also determine if you “have the ability.” The general rule is that you should take out as little as you need and pay back as much / as fast as you can. But I think some perspective is helpful, too, as I believe money is a means and many people get so focused on it that having the money in your account/investments and never utilizing it is the ultimate ends, but I digress.

If you’re single and your decisions only affect you, by all means pay those babies off. But if you’re married and/or have dependents, what you’ll need to ask yourself is how much is a dollar worth to you in residency vs. how much that same dollar (or more) is worth to you as an attending. While I was in residency I did enough moonlighting to more than double income, though I did not put any of that toward additional student loan payments (not saying that’s right or wrong). My thought was moonlighting money represents time away from my family and we used that money for things that more directly benefitted our family. A big thing was that a thousand dollars to us then on a much lower income was worth more than two thousand dollars in the future on a much higher income.

Absolutely. To the OP's questions, they can usually funnel most of a student loan repayment into salary, signon, or retention bonuses, so no reason to not pay them off if it's easy for you to do so.

That said, the current value of money when I was a resident was absurd compared to life as an attending. Each dollar was easily worth 100% more happiness to me then so it made no sense to pay off loans instead of going for happy hour, traveling, or going to a concert. It is the financially prudent thing to pay the loans, but you will make enough money as an attending to be fine financially. Don't let 6 figure loan fear keep you from enjoying residency to it's fullest, as a psych resident it aught to be some of the best years of your life!
 
I have personally thought about not putting money towards my loans at all during residency so that I can take advantage of loan repayment options when I get a job. My thought process is if I can get my employer to pay off my loans for me tax free,why should I consider paying off my loans while in residency. When during that time I am making less money with minimal impact my taxes. I guess there's the inherent risk that where I decide my dream job is they do not offer loan repayment. In the meantime I'm thinking I will pay however much money my residency will match into a 401k or 403b. Then put as much into a Roth IRA as I can (feasibly) until I hit the 5500 Max. And if for some reason I have boatloads of money laying around starting a 529 for my little girl. My loan interest is about 6 or 7% and conservative investing-lor says estimate about 7% yearly increase on mutual funds. Therefore in my mind I might as well be getting the 7% interest in tax-friendly accounts while I'm losing negative 7% through my loans. Causing a theoretical net net zero loss zero gain. And then letting my employer pay off the loan tax free as stated previously later. Is this foolhardy, wise? Thoughts?
 
I have personally thought about not putting money towards my loans at all during residency so that I can take advantage of loan repayment options when I get a job. My thought process is if I can get my employer to pay off my loans for me tax free,why should I consider paying off my loans while in residency. When during that time I am making less money with minimal impact my taxes. I guess there's the inherent risk that where I decide my dream job is they do not offer loan repayment. In the meantime I'm thinking I will pay however much money my residency will match into a 401k or 403b. Then put as much into a Roth IRA as I can (feasibly) until I hit the 5500 Max. And if for some reason I have boatloads of money laying around starting a 529 for my little girl. My loan interest is about 6 or 7% and conservative investing-lor says estimate about 7% yearly increase on mutual funds. Therefore in my mind I might as well be getting the 7% interest in tax-friendly accounts while I'm losing negative 7% through my loans. Causing a theoretical net net zero loss zero gain. And then letting my employer pay off the loan tax free as stated previously later. Is this foolhardy, wise? Thoughts?
Loan repayment is going to be taxable income in most cases--don't know of any that will be truly "tax free".
 
Loan repayment is going to be taxable income in most cases--don't know of any that will be truly "tax free".
Public Service Loan Forgiveness is tax free. The VA's EDRP payments are exempt from taxation.
 
Public Service Loan Forgiveness is tax free. The VA's EDRP payments are exempt from taxation.
Nhsc is also tax free, and working in Indian reservation, but those 4 are it I think.
 
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