Looking for advice for reapplication

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Hi all! I applied this current cycle to about 30 MD schools and only received 1 II at a T20 which has led to a WL. I’m preparing to apply and already am feeling discouraged and anxious about starting a new application so wanted to seek some advice here.

Based on the number of interviews I received and also my school list, I’m really not sure where I went wrong. Majority of the schools I applied to were IS and most of the OOS schools were T50 so I’m thinking I might have went wrong there. My app is really advocacy/community health/education heavy. I have a ton of clinical/teaching experience but not much research (prior to this last application cycle). Would love any advice on how I should approach this new application cycle? Should I wait off another year (I really don’t want to) or should I just put my head down and try to grind everything out for the next couple of weeks? Also confused on what to do about letters of recommendation, I’m worried one of the ones from my science professor may not have been as strong but I don’t really have another professor to reach out to as I’ve been out of undergrad for about 3 years now and did not do any post-bacc programs. Would love any advice/words of wisdom/encouragement/pointers/critiques I can get.

Some background:
3.93 GPA
512 MCAT
3Q Casper
7 PREVIEW
Residency: CA, ethnicity: Asian male
undergrad T15
Clinical experience: 2000 FQHC MA/SW, 250 inpatient volunteer, 1200 care coordination at cancer clinic (T5 hospital/school)
Research: 1000 research administration islet research (diabetes runs through my entirely family which is why I got involved, no pubs/posters, mainly admin work but was involved in prepping manuscripts and figures so feel like I should’ve been included), 200 public health research contributor for COVID awareness project at school. However, soon to become clinical research coordinator at T5 school within same clinic I currently coordinate care at.
Shadowing: 200 including primary care, surgery, oncology, endocrinology
non-clinical volunteering: 600 CPR/first aid instructor at school, 130 teaching assistant at local elementary try school, 600 tutoring at local homeless shelter
Leadership: 300 organizing tutoring program for 2 underfunded schools in hometown, 800 program organizing for educational technology startup in hometown, 400 outreach chair for CPR education program at undergrad
Teaching: full year as a TA in anatomy and physiology at undergrad
Other activities: marathon/triathlon, cooking (sharing recipes I ate growing up on social media)

In my gap year, I worked as a community health worker/medical assistant in a mobile clinic that served the unhoused in my hometown for about a year, I then moved cities and transitioned to a position as a care coordinator at a cancer clinic and am planning on starting a new position soon as a clinical research coordinator if I don’t get off the waitlist soon. Also travelled a bunch during this last year, caught the running bug and got really into marathons/triathlon running. Continued volunteering with the tutoring program I started as well.

My PS really focused on 3 impactful experiences- working with a student through educational advocacy, supporting my dad during his stroke and recovery, and helping a patient I met as a community health worker navigate substance use and transition into housing. I tried to use these stories as stepping stones in my evolving motivation to pursue medicine and I emphasized how they shaped my understanding of holistic care, health equity and the importance of partnership and listening in medicine. I feel like it could use a more overarching theme to connect them but I honestly felt like I wrote this really well and a ton of my mentors have read it and also felt the same. Would love to share it with someone over email if they would like to critique it because I do see how I can now add in some of my newer experiences working in cancer care into a new PS.

Here’s a list of schools I applied to:
TCU
Boston
California University of science and medicine
California Northstate*
Cooper at Rowan*
Hofstra*
Emory*
FIU*
Georgetown
kaiser
Keck USC
UNLV
Temple*
NYU LI*
NYU
OHSU
Rush
Rutgers*
Stanford
UoA Tuscon*
UCD
UCI
UCLA
UCR* (super SoCal leaning, from NorCal so didn’t apply)
UCSD
UCSF
Colorado
Hawaii*
UMiami*
UMich
UNC
VCU*
Wake Forest*
WashU
Cornell

I received secondaries from every school but didn’t complete all of them (I had a lot going on at the time and was pretty burnt out as a result). I tried to submit all my secondaries at max 1 month from receiving them so that also could have been one of my downfalls. Will try to pre-write this cycle. Schools marked with * are the ones I did not submit secondaries for.

Again, I appreciate any words of advice/pointers, thank you all!!
 
Can you clarify: you didn't become a CHW until just after you submitted your application? How many hours (2000)? It's not clear from your WAMC.

On your PS description, was there a physician role model? I am curious because you could continue to be a CHW with what you describe, but doctors don't do what you are highlighting IMO.

You seem to have many more hours tutoring. That could undermine your argument that you want to be a doctor to some (why not a teacher)? Maybe your evolution is not as clear as you think??

Service orientation activities? Lots of donations...
 
You applied to several schools that were unrealistic with a MCAT of 512. You also applied to several state public schools that admit few non residents with a MCAT of 512 and no connection to the state. I suggest these schools if you reapply:
Vermont
Quinnipiac
UMass
Tufts
Albany
New York Medical College
Hackensack
Penn State
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
George Washington
Georgetown
Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Methodist (when it opens)
NOVA MD
Belmont
Alice Walton
TCU
Tulane
St. Louis
Ponce (St. Louis)
Rosalind Franklin
Loyola
Rush
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Roseman
California University
Kaiser
The UCs
USC Keck
Apply in June and submit all your secondaries by July.
 
Complete agree with Faha. You aimed too high. Returning secondaries late also hurt you. Make sure you return them promptly so pre-writing is a good idea.

And then there's what you actually wrote. I'd get it reviewed before applying again. The last thing you want is to adjust your school choices and then get rejected this time from the appropriate schools because you didn't present your qualifications well. I also would skip UC's with average MCATS of 516 or more.
 
Can you clarify: you didn't become a CHW until just after you submitted your application? How many hours (2000)? It's not clear from your WAMC.

On your PS description, was there a physician role model? I am curious because you could continue to be a CHW with what you describe, but doctors don't do what you are highlighting IMO.

You seem to have many more hours tutoring. That could undermine your argument that you want to be a doctor to some (why not a teacher)? Maybe your evolution is not as clear as you think??

Service orientation activities? Lots of donations...
Hi, I apologize for the delay in my response! I was a CHW for about 7 months prior to submitting my application and continued being a CHW as I submitted my secondaries so I often highlighted my experiences in my work throughout my applications. There was a physician and a nurse practitioner I worked closely with on our team during this time as well that I talked about in my PS.
 
You applied to several schools that were unrealistic with a MCAT of 512. You also applied to several state public schools that admit few non residents with a MCAT of 512 and no connection to the state. I suggest these schools if you reapply:
Vermont
Quinnipiac
UMass
Tufts
Albany
New York Medical College
Hackensack
Penn State
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
George Washington
Georgetown
Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Methodist (when it opens)
NOVA MD
Belmont
Alice Walton
TCU
Tulane
St. Louis
Ponce (St. Louis)
Rosalind Franklin
Loyola
Rush
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Roseman
California University
Kaiser
The UCs
USC Keck
Apply in June and submit all your secondaries by July.
Really appreciate this!!! Prewriting was really tough for me last cycle so I'm hoping to get more ahead this cycle. Sucks that I'm in limbo right now waiting on UCSD but I think I'm just going have to pretend that that won't be happening and prep now. Do you have tips on how to approach rewriting my personal statement? I'm definitely going to include my new experience working as a care coordinator and getting to shadow multiple breast surgeons and work with clinical trials but I still feel like my calling to medicine is rooted in my passion for advocacy through health (a lot of which I mentioned in my original personal statement). How much should of that should I still try to keep in this new iteration and if I;m keeping, how would you recommend rewording it differently?
 
Complete agree with Faha. You aimed too high. Returning secondaries late also hurt you. Make sure you return them promptly so pre-writing is a good idea.

And then there's what you actually wrote. I'd get it reviewed before applying again. The last thing you want is to adjust your school choices and then get rejected this time from the appropriate schools because you didn't present your qualifications well. I also would skip UC's with average MCATS of 516 or more.
Thank you so much, Linda! Is it still worth to skip on any of the UC's even as an in-state applicant with a desire to stay/train/practice in CA? (though everyone probably wants to do that already)
 
Really appreciate this!!! Prewriting was really tough for me last cycle so I'm hoping to get more ahead this cycle. Sucks that I'm in limbo right now waiting on UCSD but I think I'm just going have to pretend that that won't be happening and prep now. Do you have tips on how to approach rewriting my personal statement? I'm definitely going to include my new experience working as a care coordinator and getting to shadow multiple breast surgeons and work with clinical trials but I still feel like my calling to medicine is rooted in my passion for advocacy through health (a lot of which I mentioned in my original personal statement). How much should of that should I still try to keep in this new iteration and if I;m keeping, how would you recommend rewording it differently?
Revise your personal statement to include your new activities. No major revision is needed.
 
I realize you're in California, but if you're ORM, your MCAT is 512 and the school's average MCAT is 516 or more, I don't think your chances are good unless you have something really exceptional in your profile that I'm not seeing. Your experience is impressive, but I don't think it's going to overcome that big a gap in your MCAT.
Even if you look only at in-state MCAT scores for the UC's here are a few where I question whether it's a good use of your time to apply:

UC Irvine: Average MCAT 517. Bottom 25th percentile is 513. ( Same as overall)
UCSF: Average MCAT 515 Bottom 25th percentile is 512

I'd skip UC Irvine, maybe try for UCSF, and definitely apply to the other UCs. You mentioned UCR has a strong Socal bias, which is part of its mission statement. That is probably another UC to skip.
 
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