low ugrad gpa, high post bacc

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Lethstang

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I need an optimistic story guys.

Please post here if you had a lowish ugrad gpa (3.2) followed by a high post bacc of prereqs (3.8) and got into d school.

any words of wisdom, anecdotes, or other good things are most welcome.

S
 
Yep! UG gpa of 3.2, masters 4.0...DAT to 20 from 17. Going to midwestern in the fall. 5 interview invitations. still waiting to hear back from 2 (withdrew from 2 others).
 
bleh, i had a 3.1 in my masters
 
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Undergrad GPA of 3.0 with only 1 BCP class, got in this year (1st time applying) after 4.0 in post-bacc prereqs (final BCP GPA: 3.92). My non-science was a low ~3.1 -- guess I was in the wrong field all along.
 
are u waiting to hear back? don't lose hope! i'm in the same boat as you as far as the undergrad gpa and postbac. i was able to get 4 pre-dec interviews and got accepted to 2 and waitlisted in 1. plus this is my second application cycle. first cycle, i just applied to cali schools, w/o any dental experience, and low dat scores. i changed all of that and it really does make the difference. gl!
 
kpooh,

not waiting to hear back, applying this summer. i just look at all the stats and my gpa is just so low compared to ppl that arent getting in, every day im wondering if im wasting my time and if i should just get a job again instead of treading water.
 
I was worse off than you...I had an AADSAS gpa of like 2.9 or so, but had a post-bacc of 3.7 and I had 7 interview invites.

It's crucial that you do well on your DATs though; so pull that off and I'm sure you'll get interviews. I would recommend sucking up the cost and casting a wide net when you apply to schools--every school looks for something different, some schools made me feel like I was the model applicant while other's rejected me as soon as they cashed my secondary app fee check. Also, don't pay too much attention to what you read about schools on these forums, check them out and make your own decision.
 
I had undergrad gpa of 3.2, post-bac gpa of 3.97, have 5 acceptances so far, still waiting to hear from 2 more. If you score >20 on the DATs, you will be more than fine.
 
I had a very low undergrad GPA ~2.4. I graduated back in 2001 and worked for the last 8 years. I took the pre-reqs over the last two years. I got all As (4.0) and pulled my oGPA up to about 2.8. I took the pre-reqs while working 40hrs/wk as a chemist and commuting an hour each way to campus. (So I think that helped show my ability to handle DS since working fuill-time and going to school was tough -took 8 hrs of classes each semester). I got accepted to DS this year.

I think you need to have a monster DAT to help. I got 23/25/23 after cramming for about a month (6hrs/day).

I also had 50+ hours of shadowing and volunteer work. (I would recommend volunteering/shadowing at a subsidized/free dental clinic to get both at once, if possible)

I think the DAT will be huge for you. It is definitely doable if you get the right study aids and invest in some "ass glue" to keep you at your desk for a month/or two.

That being said ... I think you need to have the complete application to have the best shot (volunteering/shadowing/DAT(22+)/solid trend of A/A-/B+) since your undergrad was not so hot.

There were a few times when I thought about giving up along the way .... because I had absolutely no social life when I was working, commuting an hour each way to classes, taking/studying for classes, studying for the DAT, volunteering .... but I kept thinking this is only for a short time and I still have 35+ years left to work

- Do I want this crappy job I have now, where I am just a number to a large company ... where the only way to get ahead is work 50hrs/wk and kiss your boss' ass who constantly delegates more work to you .... or do I want a career where I can call my own shots, set my own schedule, get time with the family, get paid more for working harder, and can truely help less fortunate people when I get the opportunity?

That thought process kept me going. If you really want to be a dentist ... I say keep going for it ... but you can't half-ass it whatsoever.
 
how bout having a low undergrad gpa, high postbacc with dat of 19?

19 is the avg matriculation dat so basically is it possibly to get in with a low undergrad gpa, high postbacc, and avg dat?

i ask because everyone just says 'oh just get 20, 21 22 + on the DAT its easy' but i for one have gotte 19 twice on the dat (along with a 25 pat)
 
agreed. I had terrible undergrad grades. I think a cumulative GPA of 3.12 and Sci GPA of 2.5. Did a random post bac at the cheap college where I live and got all A's. Then I got a mediocre DAT 19 19 21 but managed to get 7 interviews. I went to 4 of those and cancelled 3 post dec 1 interviews. Of the 4 I attended, I got into 3 and wait listed at 1. It is totally doable. I don't know if this makes a difference but I worked for 5years before I started the post bac.
Good Luck!🙂
 
eliot,

wow man grats. that just goes to show you that its almost impossible to predict who will get in where. we see your stats get in, and 4.0 guys get rejected.

go go low ugrad gpas! we should make t shirts.
 
Thanks, man. I was really scared I wouldn't get in anywhere at all. Nightmares and tons of stress. The not awesome DAT freaked me out, especially during interviews when kids would talk about their DAT scores and all of them had stuff in the 20's. I really thought I was going to have to do another cycle, but I kept positive and just kept giving my all at the interviews. I did one of those freeze frame air jumps when I got my first acceptance. It really was awesome, and goes to show that anything is possible. We should get T-shirts!
 
Hey elliot do you mind if I ask which dental school you got accepted to?
 
kpooh,

not waiting to hear back, applying this summer. i just look at all the stats and my gpa is just so low compared to ppl that arent getting in, every day im wondering if im wasting my time and if i should just get a job again instead of treading water.

Don't compare yourself to other applicants. Everyone is viewed individually. Worry about how you are doing/did and not about others. You will give yourself anxiety if you think about people with numbers higher than you who did not get in. Become the best applicant you can.
 
Hey elliot do you mind if I ask which dental school you got accepted to?

No problem. I got into Temple, BU and UCSF. It really came down to Temple and UCSF. In the end, I chose UCSF. Even now, I am having doubts bc/ I loved Temple that much and am from the East coast.
 
Hello,

When people are doing "post-bacc programs" .... does this mean they are doing upper level courses or just repeating the pre-reqs??
 
I think they are referring to a formal post bacc program or like what you described - retaking courses and taking upper level science to raise the sci gpa.

I did have one question for you guys: I didnt so hot my first years of college - an AA degree. I finished around 2.9 cum. I didnt take much science but did work alot (this was 4 yrs ago). I went back to school at uni for a 4 year degree and have a GPA of 3.8 (at the uni) after taking bio series, o chem, gen chem, anat and phys, bio chem, phy, calc, trig, and a few gen ed courses. This has raised my overall GPA to 3.2 GPA with a higher science GPA (after factoring in my first two years) .
Is it possible for me to get into a dental school? I have a year left of UG and dont know if a post bacc would work well for me (i've been doing well for about 2yrs and continue to do so).
what DAT should I shoot for to counter my lower GPA with an upward trend.
 
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yappy,

keep in mind im a post bacc and have not applied to d school. but from what ive gathered the adcoms def notice your upward trend - i personally think if you get a 20 on the dat with some killer EC's you are a strong candidate this year.

Take my opinion with a large grain of salt.
 
uGPA = 3.0
sGPA = 3.1
postbacc = ~3.75 (finishing last few courses this semester)
DAT = 21/21/21

University of Maryland Class of 2014!!!

Call the admissions offices; ask what they recommend. I was lucky to have Dr. Meehan's (Asst. Dean of Admissions @ Maryland) guidance regarding my course of action after being rejected two years ago. I enrolled in the post-bacc program at University of Maryland College Park, scored well on the DAT, reapplied this year, and was accepted.

That acceptance letter hangs on my wall...seriously. I look at it every day and smile!



I need an optimistic story guys.

Please post here if you had a lowish ugrad gpa (3.2) followed by a high post bacc of prereqs (3.8) and got into d school.

any words of wisdom, anecdotes, or other good things are most welcome.

S
 
Thanks for the POV Lethstang... Its encouraging to know that trends matter. I'll have to continue working on my EC's & studying for the DAT. GL with your postbacc education.

yappy,

keep in mind im a post bacc and have not applied to d school. but from what ive gathered the adcoms def notice your upward trend - i personally think if you get a 20 on the dat with some killer EC's you are a strong candidate this year.

Take my opinion with a large grain of salt.
 
efitzger,

thats great to hear man. Thats exactly the kind of success story I wanted to see to keep me motivated. Great DAT!!
 
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