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Hi,
I saw this ad about an oral and maxilofacial surgeon in Texas and he has a DDS and an MSD. What exactly is an MSD?
Thanks
Nev
 
Masters of Dental Science (or Masters of Science in Dentistry)
 
ISU_Steve said:
Masters of Dental Science (or Masters of Science in Dentistry)

Thats correct. and it is a degree to be earned AFTER one has earned his/her DMD/DDS.
 
so how does an MSD degree allow this person i was talking about to practice maxillofacial surgery?
 
nev said:
so how does an MSD degree allow this person i was talking about to practice maxillofacial surgery?


Based on what i have read, a MSD helpd the individual with research on various dental related subjects.
 
nev said:
so how does an MSD degree allow this person i was talking about to practice maxillofacial surgery?

The doctor in question attended a postgraduate program in oral and maxillofacial surgery, which awarded him a masters degree after completion. I know orthodontic students recieve master's degrees also, and I imagine so do endodontists, prosthodontists, etc. A master's degree is just the term for a higher degree, indicating a further specialization within dentistry.
 
I agree with you....but I just cant understand how he is considered as a cosmetic surgeon. Here is the link to his website....moderators please remove the link if it looks like I'm advertising.
Thanks
Nev

http://www.tofstyler.com/physicians/holton.shtml
 
nev said:
I agree with you....but I just cant understand how he is considered as a cosmetic surgeon. Here is the link to his website....moderators please remove the link if it looks like I'm advertising.
Thanks
Nev

http://www.tofstyler.com/physicians/holton.shtml


Cosmetic dentistry is not a specialty field (at least yet). Many dentists are able to take short-term courses and learn how to do a lot of cosmetic procedures (and any spacialty degree only helps them with this process). So, to the best of my knowledge, there are no degrees that call you a "cosmetic dentist", rather it is the dentist who limits his practice to cosmetic procedures. Others, please correct me if i am wrong.
 
Comet208 said:
Cosmetic dentistry is not a specialty field (at least yet). Many dentists are able to take short-term courses and learn how to do a lot of cosmetic procedures (and any spacialty degree only helps them with this process). So, to the best of my knowledge, there are no degrees that call you a "cosmetic dentist", rather it is the dentist who limits his practice to cosmetic procedures. Others, please correct me if i am wrong.

BINGO.

He more than likely has a certificate of cosmetic dentistry or something along those lines, and has limited his practices to specific "cosmetic" procedures. Most cosmetic dentists that I know of also avoid treating children as a general rule as well.
 
Maybe I don't understand your question. You ask why he is considered a cosmetic surgeon. Where on the website does it claim that? It says his degree is in Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery. Is it the specialty that you're asking about? This guy isn't doing boob jobs, tummy tucks or botox... Some OMFS also have M.D. degrees allowing them a broader scope, but this guy obviously only has the one degree plus the masters.

Here's an overview from the AAOMS website
"After dental school, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons complete four or more years of hospital-based surgical residency training that includes rotations in the general surgical service working along side other physician surgeons.

At the conclusion of this demanding program, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons are well prepared to perform the full scope of the specialty, which encompasses the diagnosis, surgical and related management of diseases, injuries and defects of both the functional and aesthetic aspects of the oral and maxillofacial regions. This includes preventive, reconstructive or emergency care for the teeth, mouth, jaws and facial structures. "

http://www.aaoms.org/

Cosmetic dentistry, what the other posters are referring to, is completely different from OMFS. From what I've read on the specialty board on SDN, there are a couple of schools that have cosmetic programs, but it is not recognized as a specialty. OMFS is different and is recognized as a specialty.
 
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well...my dad works with this surgeon and like you said, he is trained to do reconstructive surgeries. I was thinking that dentists were trained extensively to deal with the teeth and mouth....but this person deals with the face.
 
nev said:
well...my dad works with this surgeon and like you said, he is trained to do reconstructive surgeries. I was thinking that dentists were trained extensively to deal with the teeth and mouth....but this person deals with the face.

It's all connected. A lot of times oral surgeons will perform operations, ie. moving a asymmetrical mandible, or reconstructing a part of the TMJ, etc. because these have a profound or direct effect on that person's occlusion. A dentist's primary purpose is to maintain the health and integrity of a patients teeth, but oftentimes in order to do that, a dentist or specialist must treat the cause of certain destructive symptoms like poor occlusion or grinding, etcetera etc....

Dentist's are trained to deal "extensively with the teeth and mouth", but dental health and systemic health are very closely related. One of the best parts of dentistry is all the unique and truly fascinating things that they are capable of doing.

Hope some of that makes sense.

b10
 
nev said:
well...my dad works with this surgeon and like you said, he is trained to do reconstructive surgeries. I was thinking that dentists were trained extensively to deal with the teeth and mouth....but this person deals with the face.

Dealing with the face IS reconstructive surgery.

If you were wheeled into a trauma bay at any given hospital in the US on any given day, and were in need of facial/neck reconstructive surgery, your case would be handled depending on which surgeon was on call.

The surgeon would either be an ENT, a plastics, or an oral surgeon. Typically those three deal with trauma on a rotating basis.
 
hmmmmm thats interesting. Thanks for the infos, everybody.
 
As I've said before, I wouldn't let an MD only reconstructive surgeon put my face back together- and this is because of what the MD head of our plastic surgery department told me (he feels the same way)- I would want an OMS doing it. The dental background of an OMS is invaluable in these kinds of cases.
 
ISU_Steve said:
As I've said before, I wouldn't let an MD only reconstructive surgeon put my face back together- and this is because of what the MD head of our plastic surgery department told me (he feels the same way)- I would want an OMS doing it. The dental background of an OMS is invaluable in these kinds of cases.
Gimmie a break. A plastic and reconstructive surgeon is not as good as an OS? You should reconsider such a statement!
 
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