Maimonides Vs. Downstate

[chespirido]

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Thoughts? Any recent grads/residents?

 

[anondes]

Maimo hands down. The training and the environment at Maimo are much better. Dstate residents go to Maimo to get their cardiac cases b/c there aren't enough at their own place. Overall, if you are between the two, pick Maimo or, better yet, if you can, rotate through Dstate - you can see what their own residents have to say about the place (I am guessing it may be too late for this already).

 

[rsgillmd]

Thoughts? Any recent grads/residents?

Disclaimer: I am a graduate of the Maimonides program.

I say go with Maimonides. I did my residency there and felt I had a great experience. We got Downstate residents rotating with us for cardiac cases. I oriented several of them for their first few cases and saw them around during my other rotations. They seemed to like Maimonides also.

I also liked the way Dr. Konstadt (chairman at Maimonides) ran M&M. You write up the case and he would present it. While he made his opinions clear, it was also nice to listen to the debates that were generated during M&M. Those debates really made me appreciate different approaches to the same case. Both residents and attendings got involved in the debates -- usually residents first and then attendings would debate each other. The atmosphere was one of learning.

Dr. Tyagaraj (program director) also works hard to help residents pass their written and oral boards.

The people that I know wanted to get a fellowship, were able to get what they wanted. Some residents stayed on as attendings, or came back after fellowship. I'd say those two things count for something.

Having said all of that, keep in mind that any ACGME accredited program will give you at least the minimum training required. The rest is up to you -- the studying you do on your own time, what you try to get out of the cases you do, what you learn from your attendings, etc. So whatever you pick, go where you think you will be happiest.

 

[nycitygas]

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[lilzelda2]

If your into cardiac and OB then Mamio is definitely the place to be. Downstate has alot of cardiac anesthesiologist, but the cardiothoracic service isn't very busy. The cardiac months can be done at maimo, Beth isreal, and new york hospital queens. I don't think Maimo gets alot of trauma, and the patient population is very different from Flatbush or Brooklyn heights. Downstate the work hours are lighter, academic wise lecture everyday, journal club, simulation/board review every week, grand rounds and ITE review on Fridays. The program is pretty academic in that sense. Test scores are very important here, not sure how it as maimo. It's a large group of residents vs small group at maimo, u rotate at different hospitals vs staying one hospital. I think the program is trying to work on making residents happier, their implementing some overtime pay thing, it's hard to keep 80 ppl happy.
I'm sure you'll leave either program as a good anesthesiologist

 

[nycitygas]

If your into cardiac and OB then Mamio is definitely the place to be. Downstate has alot of cardiac anesthesiologist, but the cardiothoracic service isn't very busy. The cardiac months can be done at maimo, Beth isreal, and new york hospital queens. I don't think Maimo gets alot of trauma, and the patient population is very different from Flatbush or Brooklyn heights. Downstate the work hours are lighter, academic wise lecture everyday, journal club, simulation/board review every week, grand rounds and ITE review on Fridays. The program is pretty academic in that sense. Test scores are very important here, not sure how it as maimo. It's a large group of residents vs small group at maimo, u rotate at different hospitals vs staying one hospital. I think the program is trying to work on making residents happier, their implementing some overtime pay thing, it's hard to keep 80 ppl happy.
I'm sure you'll leave either program as a good anesthesiologist

Downstate has a >90% board pass rate with more than 20+ residents a year, Maimonides has a 50%% pass rate with half that. This should be a pretty key consideration.