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just read in one of the surgery throwaway mags that the highest malpractice premiums are being paid in florida... someone is actually paying 249,000 dollars a year in malpractice insurance to deliver babies, while most are forced to pay >100,000 dollars per year.

in pennsylvania it's much better... the highest premium being paid is 170K, and most are paying around 90K, or 100K per year in malpractice...

when will it stop? when every ob/gyn is forced to drop the "ob", and just do "gyn"? wonder if it will get to the point where the ******* public will realize that if ob/gyns keep getting hammered by lawsuits, pretty soon they will be without any MD care for their pregnancy/baby...

it's ridiculous...
 
this is a very important reason to vote for gw bush.
 
doc05 said:
this is a very important reason to vote for gw bush.
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I hate burst your bubble but voting for GW ain't gonna help at all. He tried to pass national tort reform and attempted to cap noneconomic damages at 250K and that went.... nowhere... fast. The trial lawyers own most of the congress, and pretty much the whole senate.

On tort reform, it's a wash between kerry and Bush. The only difference between the two is that Bush actually tried to pass reform, whereas Kerry won't even try. Either way, it doesn't matter who's in the white house as far as tort reform goes.

I think that the only way things will change is when enough middle class voters start finding out that there is no ob care for their wives and daughters. It's probably gonna require something really tragic to happen and become big news in the papers. It's just insane.
 
Celiac Plexus said:
I hate burst your bubble but voting for GW ain't gonna help at all. He tried to pass national tort reform and attempted to cap noneconomic damages at 250K and that went.... nowhere... fast. The trial lawyers own most of the congress, and pretty much the whole senate.

On tort reform, it's a wash between kerry and Bush. The only difference between the two is that Bush actually tried to pass reform, whereas Kerry won't even try. Either way, it doesn't matter who's in the white house as far as tort reform goes.

I think that the only way things will change is when enough middle class voters start finding out that there is no ob care for their wives and daughters. It's probably gonna require something really tragic to happen and become big news in the papers. It's just insane.
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You are absolutely right on the political aspect of it. However, I disagree with the tragedy point. Remember, if there is ever a medical tragedy, the lawyers will always blame it on the physicians, and trust me, the public will buy it. The major reason for this is because lawyers and managed care organizations are the only parties "educating" the common man about healthcare, and according to them, we are the @$$holes, and they are the ones championing the cause of the public.
According to me, a hardcore campaign to educate the general public about the medical industry from the doctors point of view is the best way to go.
 
has not passed in the senate is because the republicans DON'T have the majority needed in the senate. They need to have 60 senators vote for the measure to be approved and they don't have that at the moment. It's obvious that the democratic senators won't vote for it. So if you want this bill to pass your job is (assuming the state you live in has democratic senators) is to vote for the republican candidate on your state's next senatorial election.This in turn will to ensure the republicans have the numbers needed to approve this measure.

Hope that helps
 
guanaco said:
has not passed in the senate is because the republicans DON'T have the majority needed in the senate. They need to have 60 senators vote for the measure to be approved and they don't have that at the moment. It's obvious that the democratic senators won't vote for it. So if you want this bill to pass your job is (assuming the state you live in has democratic senators) is to vote for the republican candidate on your state's next senatorial election.This in turn will to ensure the republicans have the numbers needed to approve this measure.

Hope that helps
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There are already more than a majority in favor of tort reform. The problem is that they need 60 votes to end debate and bypass a filibuster. Unfortunately, minority rules in the Senate, particularly when the minority are Democrats.
 
Sweet Tea said:
*looks around* everyone forum? how did i get into the everyone forum?? i thought i was in ob/gyn...😕
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Guess what? Ob/gyns aren't the only ones who get sued. It's kind of a universal topic. 🙂
 
i am currently doing research in michigan on the efficacy of tort reforms in my state in terms of the impact of the reforms on the rate of increase for medical malpractice insurance premiums.

if anyone out there has any links (or better yet, actual journal articles on real paper published by real academic institutions or similar sources) that are recent and list med mal insurance premiums by state, or if you have other info that you think i might be able to use, please post here or email me at [email protected].

thanks a million!
 
I was in Florida my last 2 years of medical school for clinical rotations. Ob's there were teaming up in groups of 15+ just to afford the cost of malpractice then only the younger doc's were delivering because they had the least expensive malpractice.... Others in private practice went bareback posting signs saying they had no malpractice instead only having $250,000 in a bond type account if sued.

In OH physicians are quitting and those in Ob as moving to Gyn only practices or getting the younger participants to deliver. What will happen my bet is socialized medcine.
 
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