Masters Programs 2019-2020

[doctortobe12345]

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Hi everyone! I wanted to start a forum for those of us applying to masters programs for 2019-2020. Was hoping people would reply with their stats, the schools they applied to and whether or not they were accepted to said schools! I think it will give us more of an idea of the type of applicants these programs are looking for and allow us to communicate regarding the application process.

 

[RevGood]

I am just beginning the process of applying to the Master's in Biomedical Science program at Marian University Indianapolis. I have a long way to go to get accepted into the program. I have some catching up to do in regards to science/math prerequisites.

 

[drummerphysician]

Currently a Master's student for Marian University's Biomedical Science program if anyone has questions about it from the student perspective. Feel free to DM.

 

[roger_that_captain]

Applied for Duke's MBS (waitlisted) and am in the process of applying to EVMS med master's and maybe Georgetown

 

[plshelpmeyall]

Currently a Master's student for Marian University's Biomedical Science program if anyone has questions about it from the student perspective. Feel free to DM.

How is it? Was it very difficult to get into? Are you guaranteed a position or interview or anything when you're done? Thanks and good luck!

 

[Pediatrics-Cas]

How is it? Was it very difficult to get into? Are you guaranteed a position or interview or anything when you're done? Thanks and good luck!

would not recommend marian's BMS. go anywhere else and save your 36k. check out the thread many students have made:

Marian's Master's of Biomedical Sciences (2018-2019)

I wanted to make this thread to give anyone thinking of coming to Marian's MBS program a chance to know the truth beforehand. Overall: Would I recommend the program to anyone? No. I attended Marian's BMS program, like many students in the class, to better prepare my application for medical...

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[Pediatrics-Cas]

I am just beginning the process of applying to the Master's in Biomedical Science program at Marian University Indianapolis. I have a long way to go to get accepted into the program. I have some catching up to do in regards to science/math prerequisites.

Marian's Master's of Biomedical Sciences (2018-2019)

I wanted to make this thread to give anyone thinking of coming to Marian's MBS program a chance to know the truth beforehand. Overall: Would I recommend the program to anyone? No. I attended Marian's BMS program, like many students in the class, to better prepare my application for medical...

forums.studentdoctor.net

 

[hahahaley]

Hey everyone. I literally just made this account to post on this thread. I recently just got offered acceptance into Marian's BMS program and was real excited for it until I saw the thread for 2018-2019. I am actually considering not going now. I am calling tomorrow to ask some questions. These are the ones I have so far if any of you guys want me to ask something let me know and I will tomorrow.

ask the university questions:

like how many BMS students matriculated into Marian’s medical school

how many students dropped the program

how many students dropped courses, etc.

(Also realize they may inflate their numbers by taking credit for students who got into OTHER medical schools on their own merits.)

AACOM by this December for 1 yr program?

Price?

Masters or post bac?

Email states 3.5 and 497 but a part of your website says 491

Deadline to change gpa and MCAT who makes that decision

Student complaints of last yr

 

[hahahaley]

Hi everyone! I wanted to start a forum for those of us applying to masters programs for 2019-2020. Was hoping people would reply with their stats, the schools they applied to and whether or not they were accepted to said schools! I think it will give us more of an idea of the type of applicants these programs are looking for and allow us to communicate regarding the application process.

Hi I have been accepted but I haven't given my deposit yet. I'm currently waitlisted at OU and am praying I will come off it but this seemed like a good option if I didn't but after reading the old Marian BMS 18-19 thread IDK...

 

[drummerphysician]

Hey everyone. I literally just made this account to post on this thread. I recently just got offered acceptance into Marian's BMS program and was real excited for it until I saw the thread for 2018-2019. I am actually considering not going now. I am calling tomorrow to ask some questions. These are the ones I have so far if any of you guys want me to ask something let me know and I will tomorrow.

ask the university questions:

like how many BMS students matriculated into Marian’s medical school

how many students dropped the program

how many students dropped courses, etc.

(Also realize they may inflate their numbers by taking credit for students who got into OTHER medical schools on their own merits.)

AACOM by this December for 1 yr program?

Price?

Masters or post bac?

Email states 3.5 and 497 but a part of your website says 491

Deadline to change gpa and MCAT who makes that decision

Student complaints of last yr

Hey there! Was a BMS student last year. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat about it.

 

[Pediatrics-Cas]

Hey there! Was a BMS student last year. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat about it.

Hey everyone. I literally just made this account to post on this thread. I recently just got offered acceptance into Marian's BMS program and was real excited for it until I saw the thread for 2018-2019. I am actually considering not going now. I am calling tomorrow to ask some questions. These are the ones I have so far if any of you guys want me to ask something let me know and I will tomorrow.

ask the university questions:

like how many BMS students matriculated into Marian’s medical school

how many students dropped the program

how many students dropped courses, etc.

(Also realize they may inflate their numbers by taking credit for students who got into OTHER medical schools on their own merits.)

AACOM by this December for 1 yr program?

Price?

Masters or post bac?

Email states 3.5 and 497 but a part of your website says 491

Deadline to change gpa and MCAT who makes that decision

Student complaints of last yr

if you did call- would love to know what their answer was to all those questions !!

 

[jdrb0130]

Hey everyone. I literally just made this account to post on this thread. I recently just got offered acceptance into Marian's BMS program and was real excited for it until I saw the thread for 2018-2019. I am actually considering not going now. I am calling tomorrow to ask some questions. These are the ones I have so far if any of you guys want me to ask something let me know and I will tomorrow.

ask the university questions:

like how many BMS students matriculated into Marian’s medical school

how many students dropped the program

how many students dropped courses, etc.

(Also realize they may inflate their numbers by taking credit for students who got into OTHER medical schools on their own merits.)

AACOM by this December for 1 yr program?

Price?

Masters or post bac?

Email states 3.5 and 497 but a part of your website says 491

Deadline to change gpa and MCAT who makes that decision

Student complaints of last yr

Hey, I didn't look at the file but I noticed a lot of people that rant about SMPs. Honestly, they are SMP, they are risky. If you don't do well, you'll be on here ranting. SMPs are not worth the money and you could save it. However, if this is your only shot and only thing to improve your application, then do it. If it's similar to my SMP forum, and that's the only school you have to increase your chances talk to people who have done well, rather the people who are ranting. You'll find out that certain schools are not that bad, it was just people's personal experiences.

 

[Pediatrics-Cas]

Hey, I didn't look at the file but I noticed a lot of people that rant about SMPs. Honestly, they are SMP, they are risky. If you don't do well, you'll be on here ranting. SMPs are not worth the money and you could save it. However, if this is your only shot and only thing to improve your application, then do it. If it's similar to my SMP forum, and that's the only school you have to increase your chances talk to people who have done well, rather the people who are ranting. You'll find out that certain schools are not that bad, it was just people's personal experiences.

Seems like you are saying that only people who didn't do well are "ranting".......? I actually did do well, like many others who got the short end of the stick, which is why I want others to be aware of the risk they're taking coming here. It isn't black and white like they promised, like many other schools are. It's not do well and get in. Even people who were accepted to the program from this SMP linkage do not recommend it. Yeah, it's a final shot, but the school is deceiving people with their statistics and promises, and that is NOT okay. I do not discourage all SMPs. I know that there are many with great reputations and great linkages that come highly recommended from all students. Marian's SMP is not that!! I recommend doing more research for people considering coming here, and her list of questions is the perfect start to finding out more information....student complaints of last year, % of people that actually matriculated into their medical school, % of people that matriculated into any medical school, Average GPA of the program, and how many students dropped courses (nearly 50% dropped immunology...)Are those not red flags to you?

 

[Pediatrics-Cas]

FYI- They actually had a limited number of seats for the BMS class to enroll into their medical school, so even if you did well and were able to meet AND SURPASS their cut offs (granted everything else in your app was great and you met their mission- etc) they did not accept you. This is after we were promised special consideration to their medical school. In fact, the first day of orientation, the dean came and told us "theoretically" if we all did well, we were welcome to stay. There are students who professors tried to fight for and advocate for them to have a spot in the medical school- and there is 0 reason why they should not be accepted besides that pre-determined number of seats that they did not disclose to us. Last year when the program was simply a certificate post-bac program, with less students, the administration told them mid program they did not have seats for everyone. Why they would expand their program fully knowing they were not going to accept more students who did well- one can only assume they're out for a paycheck, like so many SMPs. So yeah, if this is your final shot to enhance your application then yes, come risk 50,000 and your mental sanity, however, my point being is don't bank on the linkage because its crap. Go enhance your GPA at a different, cheaper, more reputable school or do another SMP that doesn't deceive their students. That's all. 😵 😵

 

[jdrb0130]

Seems like you are saying that only people who didn't do well are "ranting".......? I actually did do well, like many others who got the short end of the stick, which is why I want others to be aware of the risk they're taking coming here. It isn't black and white like they promised, like many other schools are. It's not do well and get in. Even people who were accepted to the program from this SMP linkage do not recommend it. Yeah, it's a final shot, but the school is deceiving people with their statistics and promises, and that is NOT okay. I do not discourage all SMPs. I know that there are many with great reputations and great linkages that come highly recommended from all students. Marian's SMP is not that!! I recommend doing more research for people considering coming here, and her list of questions is the perfect start to finding out more information....student complaints of last year, % of people that actually matriculated into their medical school, % of people that matriculated into any medical school, Average GPA of the program, and how many students dropped courses (nearly 50% dropped immunology...)Are those not red flags to you?

I'm saying most people on SDN say their SMP is not worth the money. However, when your options are slim for medical school or you're a nontraditional student, it's a good decision. I get what you're saying though.

 

[hahahaley]

if you did call- would love to know what their answer was to all those questions !!

THIS IS THE REPLY!!

Thank you for reaching out. I will copy your questions and answer them below.

How many BMS students matriculated into Marian’s medical school? This year we have offered 22 BMS students a seat and of those 20 have deposited. Last year 24 BMS students matriculated into MU-COM’s DO program. There are still BMS students on the wait list so the number could still change this year.
How many students dropped the program? Based on information from February, only 3 students had dropped out of the program. The person who has this information is out today, but I can try and get updated information tomorrow, assuming she is in.
How many students dropped courses? I will need to follow up on this as I do not have that information readily available. I can tell you that students are not penalized in the DO admissions process for dropping a course. Of the 22 students accepted, 3 of them dropped 1 class. Of those on the wait list, 2 of them have dropped a course.
The email about the BMS program states 3.5 gpa and 497 MCAT but a part of your website says 491 MCAT? To get a guaranteed interview to MU-COM you need to have a 3.5 GPA in the fall semester and a 497 on the MCAT. We require a 491 minimum MCAT score to be eligible for the program. Please let me know if you see somewhere on the website that says a guaranteed interview with a 491 MCAT score.
The deadline to change GPA and MCAT requirements who makes that decision? I do not know of any MCAT or GPA requirement changes to our program or for a guaranteed interview. Also, not meeting the 3.5 GPA does not mean you won’t be eligible for an interview. We did interview BMS students with below a 3.5 GPA in the program.
How many students retook the MCAT? Again, I do not have an exact number, but I spoke with someone that told me he could only think of 3 people that re-took the MCAT of our interviewees. The vast majority of our BMS students that were accepted into our DO program had the same score they came into the BMS program with.
I heard many student complaints from last year about the program, courses and professors and I wanted to see if anything was addressed or change? We had a consultant come in to evaluate the program. Based on some of his recommendations some changes were made. Some of those include standardizing syllabi for courses and grading for every course. Course loads will be regulated so one course doesn’t take up more time than every other class. The faculty have also met to have discussions regarding concerns and to make improvements.

The program is aware that there were issues last year and have been working to make sure it does not happen again, as it has not in the 2 previous years.

Also, our program does help prepare you for medical school. In the first semester of our DO program, our BMS matriculants have scored 10 percentage points higher than those who did not complete our BMS program.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

Ricky


Richard Nussle, MPH
Assistant Director of Admissions for Graduate Health Programs
Marian University- College of Osteopathic Medicine
3200 Cold Spring Road | Indianapolis IN 46222
P: 317.955.6610

 

[Pediatrics-Cas]

THIS IS THE REPLY!!

Thank you for reaching out. I will copy your questions and answer them below.

How many BMS students matriculated into Marian’s medical school? This year we have offered 22 BMS students a seat and of those 20 have deposited. Last year 24 BMS students matriculated into MU-COM’s DO program. There are still BMS students on the wait list so the number could still change this year.
How many students dropped the program? Based on information from February, only 3 students had dropped out of the program. The person who has this information is out today, but I can try and get updated information tomorrow, assuming she is in.
How many students dropped courses? I will need to follow up on this as I do not have that information readily available. I can tell you that students are not penalized in the DO admissions process for dropping a course. Of the 22 students accepted, 3 of them dropped 1 class. Of those on the wait list, 2 of them have dropped a course.
The email about the BMS program states 3.5 gpa and 497 MCAT but a part of your website says 491 MCAT? To get a guaranteed interview to MU-COM you need to have a 3.5 GPA in the fall semester and a 497 on the MCAT. We require a 491 minimum MCAT score to be eligible for the program. Please let me know if you see somewhere on the website that says a guaranteed interview with a 491 MCAT score.
The deadline to change GPA and MCAT requirements who makes that decision? I do not know of any MCAT or GPA requirement changes to our program or for a guaranteed interview. Also, not meeting the 3.5 GPA does not mean you won’t be eligible for an interview. We did interview BMS students with below a 3.5 GPA in the program.
How many students retook the MCAT? Again, I do not have an exact number, but I spoke with someone that told me he could only think of 3 people that re-took the MCAT of our interviewees. The vast majority of our BMS students that were accepted into our DO program had the same score they came into the BMS program with.
I heard many student complaints from last year about the program, courses and professors and I wanted to see if anything was addressed or change? We had a consultant come in to evaluate the program. Based on some of his recommendations some changes were made. Some of those include standardizing syllabi for courses and grading for every course. Course loads will be regulated so one course doesn’t take up more time than every other class. The faculty have also met to have discussions regarding concerns and to make improvements.

The program is aware that there were issues last year and have been working to make sure it does not happen again, as it has not in the 2 previous years.

Also, our program does help prepare you for medical school. In the first semester of our DO program, our BMS matriculants have scored 10 percentage points higher than those who did not complete our BMS program.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

Ricky


Richard Nussle, MPH
Assistant Director of Admissions for Graduate Health Programs
Marian University- College of Osteopathic Medicine
3200 Cold Spring Road | Indianapolis IN 46222
P: 317.955.6610

- make sure to ask how many students dropped individual courses total..not just the program and not just accepted students. nearly 30!!!!!!!!!!!!!! people dropped immunology. do not take " I will need to follow up on this as I do not have that information readily available." as an answer.

- THE AVERAGE GPA OF THE PROGRAM

- what the other nearly 1/2 - 2/3 of the class is doing after graduation

- how many people enrolled in medical school in general not just their program.

there is no doubt they accept a good handful of students (most of which were on the waitlist last year) but what about the other 50 something people in the class..?

 

[swankeyDJ]

Would any former/current Marian BMS program students be willing to PM deciding between a few programs and just want to get a students view on this one. Thanks!

 

[medicalgal3]

Would any former/current Marian BMS program students be willing to PM deciding between a few programs and just want to get a students view on this one. Thanks!

Current BMS student at Marian. This program prepared me well as far as biomedical knowledge for medical school, and I learned great study techniques for a HEFTY curriculum! Which was all great, and profs were all (except for Mico/Immuno) wonderful and supportive, but the communication at this school is not good, and yes, prior to Covid. A lot of great changes were made this year, but a lot of work still needs to be done. Do not think that you will get into MU-COM even if you have good stats. Students with good, solid stats had multiple interviews/acceptances into other med schools, and not even an interview or any other communication from MU-COM. A couple of wonderful classmates of mine were accepted after their January interview, a couple have been called off the waitlist, many rejections, and some of my classmates are still on the waitlist.