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Rule in question: "It is a violation of the Match Participation Agreement to contact programs other than using ERAS or to have any individual or entity contact programs on your behalf prior to the programs initiating contact with you."
Background: AMG-AMG, I'm couples matching, we matched everything except for my prelim year in the same city in MO. Currently, there are 4 surg-prelim spots in one unfilled program in that city. Next nearest opening is 5 surg-prelim spots about 125 miles away. After that, we're looking at 350+ miles. I've phone-interviewed with 2 surg-prelims in NYC (1000+ mi away); otherwise nothing.
To wholly abide by the rules this year, no individual or entity can contact any program on any individual's behalf prior to program-initiated contact. But technically, I think a third party can make a general inquiry along the lines of: "have you been getting unsolicited calls/emails on behalf of other applicants?" The problem is, if unsolicited contact is occurring, I wouldn't knowingly ask someone to make a match violation on my behalf. So what's the point of finding out?
On the other hand, if unsolicited contact is happening and generally tolerated, I feel that I am doing myself and my other half a huge disservice by "playing by the rules". It's further complicated because my understanding is that the unsolicited contact rule is a new one introduced this year. So it's not unreasonable for deans, advisors, and students across the country to think that third parties can reach out on our behalf and act accordingly.
To make matters worse, I have heard that at least one of my home institution's departments has been inundated with unsolicited contact. I don't have direct evidence, but I do trust my source.
When I try to rationalize this new rule, my thinking is that program directors last year decided SOAP wasn't giving them adequate time to review applications, so they requested that something be done to stem the influx of calls/emails/faxes. But if I were a program director, I would like to know if there are applicants out there that would accept an offer with 100% yield. I could be totally off in my rationalization, but if its remotely true, then in the spirit of the rule, I should be allowed to somehow convey that message. So is it me, or is this new rule subject to a lot of misunderstanding? And what on earth should I do?
Being risk averse, I am doing nothing. My dean, understandably, endorses this.
Background: AMG-AMG, I'm couples matching, we matched everything except for my prelim year in the same city in MO. Currently, there are 4 surg-prelim spots in one unfilled program in that city. Next nearest opening is 5 surg-prelim spots about 125 miles away. After that, we're looking at 350+ miles. I've phone-interviewed with 2 surg-prelims in NYC (1000+ mi away); otherwise nothing.
To wholly abide by the rules this year, no individual or entity can contact any program on any individual's behalf prior to program-initiated contact. But technically, I think a third party can make a general inquiry along the lines of: "have you been getting unsolicited calls/emails on behalf of other applicants?" The problem is, if unsolicited contact is occurring, I wouldn't knowingly ask someone to make a match violation on my behalf. So what's the point of finding out?
On the other hand, if unsolicited contact is happening and generally tolerated, I feel that I am doing myself and my other half a huge disservice by "playing by the rules". It's further complicated because my understanding is that the unsolicited contact rule is a new one introduced this year. So it's not unreasonable for deans, advisors, and students across the country to think that third parties can reach out on our behalf and act accordingly.
To make matters worse, I have heard that at least one of my home institution's departments has been inundated with unsolicited contact. I don't have direct evidence, but I do trust my source.
When I try to rationalize this new rule, my thinking is that program directors last year decided SOAP wasn't giving them adequate time to review applications, so they requested that something be done to stem the influx of calls/emails/faxes. But if I were a program director, I would like to know if there are applicants out there that would accept an offer with 100% yield. I could be totally off in my rationalization, but if its remotely true, then in the spirit of the rule, I should be allowed to somehow convey that message. So is it me, or is this new rule subject to a lot of misunderstanding? And what on earth should I do?
Being risk averse, I am doing nothing. My dean, understandably, endorses this.
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