MD/PhD Enrollment

[britishmafia]

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Some schools have this posted, and some do not. I think something pretty interesting is the size of various programs; that is, how many students does each school matriculate every year? The range I've seen is 2-15 so far, which is a pretty wide range. For example, I know Dartmouth is a small school, but I have no idea how many it matriculates each year. This information can be really helpful in the admissions process.

Is there a resource (I tried AAMC unsuccessfully) that lists these?

If not, it might be good to get a running count of each school and the number of people that matriculate.

 

[Ariodant]

Dartmouth matriculates around 3-5.

 

[Neuronix]

What is Penn at? 25/year these days I think, all fully-funded. That's second to WashU.

Is there a resource (I tried AAMC unsuccessfully) that lists these?

Not that I'm aware of. You can try school websites, though they don't always say.

 

[Calf]

The MSAR has this info.

 

[StIGMA]

The MSAR has that info for a single class.

Schools that do not deliberately post their number of MD/PhD students often have this information elsewhere, such as in group pictures of their M1/M2/G1/etc MD/PhD classes.

 

[URHere]

I'll help out with this! OHSU takes 4 or 5 a year (I should add that these are all fully funded) 😀

Also, if memory serves correctly, Rochester takes 7-8, U Maryland takes 5, Upstate takes 6, and Boston takes 12-15 (but only 2 are fully funded).

All of these positions are fully funded except for the ones at BU.

 

[ClarinetGeek]

UIowa matriculates 10/year (fully funded).

 

[magwi11]

Cincinnati takes 6, all fully funded.

 

[britishmafia]

Just heard back from Texas A&M that they will be taking 4-5 this year.

 

[Lukkie]

ucla takes 10-12/year iirc

edit- yep
http://www.medsch.ucla.edu/mstp/faqs.htm

 

[britishmafia]

So here's what we have so far:

Darmouth - 3-5 (all funded)
BU - 2 (funded) + ~10-13 (unfunded)
Cincinatti - 6 (all funded)
Johns Hopkins - 15 (funded) + ~15 (unfunded)
Maryland - 5 (all funded)
OHSU - 4-5 (all funded)
Penn - ~25 (all funded)
Rochester - 7-8 (all funded)
SUNY Upstate - 6 (all funded)
Texas A&M - 4-5 (all funded)
UCLA - 10-12
UIowa - 10 (all funded)

 

[StIGMA]

So here's what we have so far:
Johns Hopkins - 15 (funded) + ~15 (unfunded)

How does the unfunded at JH work? I suppose you get a stipend/tuition waiver for grad school, but do they give you any scholarship support for the MD years? Does your 100k or so debt accumulate from your first 2 years while you are in grad school?

 

[britishmafia]

Well those "15 unfunded" are solely acceptances.. only about 2-3 are actually ambitious enough to accumulate that kind of debt. You would basically have to pay the full tuition without a stipend during the MD years, but the PhD years would be just like those of a graduate student.

 

[JHopRevisit]

For Hopkins, its fifteen acceptances, but only 12 or so in the class per year. Outside of WashU and Penn, I don't know of any programs that take more than about 12 per year.

The unfunded works as described...few people choose this option, maybe one every year or every other year, and some of them are successful at finding some sort of funding later, but its a very individual thing (the private funding you can get depends on your field, if you're a minority student, international, etc.), and the odds aren't very good. Honestly, I would never turn down a funded slot for a non-funded one, but some people have local ties or family money.

 

[tomhobbes]

Darmouth - 3-5 (all funded)
BU - 2 (funded) + ~10-13 (unfunded)
Cincinatti - 6 (all funded)
Johns Hopkins - 15 (funded) + ~15 (unfunded)
Maryland - 5 (all funded)
OHSU - 4-5 (all funded)
Penn - ~25 (all funded)
Rochester - 7-8 (all funded)
SUNY Upstate - 6 (all funded)
Texas A&M - 4-5 (all funded)
UCLA - 10-12
UIowa - 10 (all funded)
UIC - 5-6 (all funded)
UIUC - 12-18

The 12-18 at Urbana-Champaign include a couple of lib arts PhDs as well. All receive the tuition waiver. Stipend depends on discipline. So those in the sciences/engn would be 'fully funded'.

 

[Ariodant]

UT Southwestern sends out 50 acceptances and typically gets about 25 matriculants, all funded. They have Ross Perot, so they don't really care how many decide to matriculate. If all 50 decide to matriculate, they'll fund 50, that was what their director (Michael Brown, great guy) said.

UCSF takes 12 each year, no more, no less. UCSD around 14ish, Baylor 12-14, UCLA I believe is 15 (coulde be wrong), USC 3-5 (non-MSTP), and that's all I can recall right now. All are fully funded.

 

[pseudoknot]

I think VCU generally takes 6 from outside and another 2 from the M1 class.