MD/PhD in engineering: GRE?

[Tetraoxygen]

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Apologies if this has already been asked:

Which MD/PhD programs in bioengineering/biomedical engineering require the GRE?

I have been scoping out individual schools, and sometimes even then, I can't really tell. Where do I find this information?

Much thanks!

 

[Lil Mick]

I'm not sure which ones require it, but I'd suggest just taking it at some point before applying to cover your bases. One school on my application list that didn't require the GRE sent me message asking when my scores would be sent. It's not fun to have to take the GRE ASAP without preparation...

 

[Tetraoxygen]

Lil Mick, did the school want the general GRE scores or subject GRE scores?
I think the engineering GRE got axed in, like, 2008 or something.

 

[Lil Mick]

I'm not in engineering, but the scores they wanted were just the general GRE (though some math programs suggested the math subject exam). I plan to take this before I enter the graduate portion of the program, though it isn't required at my school (just to show myself that I know enough to handle the classes)...

 

[Choculitis]

I'm pretty sure that you don't need GRE scores for BE (and I really hope I'm right, given that I'm planning on doing my PhD in BE and have no plan to take the GRE). I'm working at UPenn BE now and the MD/PhD in my lab didn't take the GRE. From what I've seen, the only people who need to take the GRE are those who want to do the PhD in a non-science field.

 

[cdonahue]

OSU asked for general GRE scores for PhD in Engineering.

 

[latte01]

Apologies if this has already been asked:

Which MD/PhD programs in bioengineering/biomedical engineering require the GRE?

I have been scoping out individual schools, and sometimes even then, I can't really tell. Where do I find this information?

Much thanks!

Be more specific. Before jumping in and saying you're going to become a "bioengineer/biomedical engineer", you really should be more specific as to what type of research you desire to pursue. Bioengineering can mean anything from bioinformatics which requires heavy computer programming skills, good understanding of molecular genetics, and being strong at stochastic mathematics to medical device production where you'll need to be skilled at circuitry and signal processing.

It's naïve to think that just because you have a medical degree this will set you apart from any other engineers. In fact, medical school can hurt you because you waste more than four years of time. Believe me when I say that going to medical school is way overrated. The real movers and shakers in medicine are non-clinicians. Doctors are powerless to all the quick changes going on around them. ...............

 

[Tetraoxygen]

Be more specific. Before jumping in and saying you're going to become a "bioengineer/biomedical engineer", you really should be more specific as to what type of research you desire to pursue.

Being more specific: I would like to know if any MD/PhD programs with the PhD component in the biomedical engineering or bioengineering department of a graduate school (depending on which exists) require the GRE, general or subject specific.

This way, I can decide whether or not to take the GRE.

 

[PfNO22]

Being more specific: I would like to know if any MD/PhD programs with the PhD component in the biomedical engineering or bioengineering department of a graduate school (depending on which exists) require the GRE, general or subject specific.

This way, I can decide whether or not to take the GRE.

Would you eliminate a school from your list if it required the GRE? Invariably, you will come across good schools that require the GRE for Engineering in MD-PhD.

 

[Tetraoxygen]

Would you eliminate a school from your list if it required the GRE?

If it turns out to be a school I really wanted to go to, then I will brace myself for another standardized test.

Invariably, you will come across good schools that require the GRE for Engineering in MD-PhD.

So far, the list has OSU.

In general, I would like to know if a list of requirements for each MD/PhD program already exists somewhere, sort of like the AMCAS book?

 

[Lil Mick]

Unfortunately, there isn't. You're lucky if the website even gives the details of a school's MD/PhD program... I'd be interested in helping to compile one, though. I think it would make this whole thing easier for students and for advisors (mine had never heard of an MSTP when I was applying).

 

[Choculitis]

So far, the list has OSU.

Add UMichigan to that list: "The Graduate Record Examination (GRE) is not required except for College of Engineering applicants or students seeking consideration for a Ph.D. in the humanities or social sciences. The Medical College Admission Test (MCAT) is required of all applicants."

 

[john2337]

The GRE is not requiered for OSU, I was accepted to the MD/PhD program in biomedical engineering without taking the GRE. There is a stipulation that can exempt you if you have a high enough GPA (something like 3.5 or so).

 

[cdonahue]

That's true, there are exceptions:

Evaluation Criteria:
The IBGP and Neuroscience Graduate Studies Program will accept results of MCATs in lieu of the GRE for admission to the MSP, but Biomedical Engineering (BME) requires the GRE. However, this GRE requirement is waived for applicants who majored in an engineering field during their undergraduate or graduate education. An earned cumulative grade-point average (GPA) equivalent to at least 3.0 out of 4.0 in all previous undergraduate college-level course work is required by the OSU Graduate School, but considerably higher scores will be required to gain admission to the MSP.

 

[erikreinertsen]

Almost all the top programs do not need the GRE for MD/PhD. Check with the specific program to be sure. I asked the co-director of the UCLA MSTP and some other faculty with some experience about the GRE, and they said they haven't heard of any MD/PhDs ever needing it.

FYI: Apparently, MD or MD/PhD students are not eligible for the NSF GRFP: http://www.nsfgrfp.org/how_to_apply/eligibility_guide#fields. The MSTP should provide full funding. It'd be greedy to take more money hehe.

 

[Tetraoxygen]

You're lucky if the website even gives the details of a school's MD/PhD program...

Yes, I've run into this too. The MD/PhD in BME tends to highlight the program in a paragraph and then redirect back to the regular MSTP page. Blarg.

The list of MD/PhD(BME) requiring GRE
1. Michigan
2. OSU (can get exemption with GPA minimum from engineering degree)

 

[erikreinertsen]

Debating if I should drop UMich... sad because they have a great BME program :[

 

[Choculitis]

Debating if I should drop UMich... sad because they have a great BME program :[

Have you called them about it? It may be possible that they'll make an exception if you do well enough on the MCAT