med school + postdoc

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Treg

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Hi everyone,

I haven't posted here in eons. I thought it would be of interest to post how things went during my first year of med school, during which time I was a part-time postdoctoral fellow.
As expected, my life was-in a word-BUSY. I spent on average 10-20 hours a week in the lab with probably another 10 or so involved in writing/organizing things for my project. I started off med school going to a lot of class, just to gauge where I was at and what I could miss. My school is P/F, so my goal for the year was to hit the 50th percentile in my courses. We have on average a half day of lecture each day, two PBL sessions each week, and a patient centered care course another half day each week. As I settled in to the year, I probably skipped 25% of the lecture each week so I could spend more time in the lab.
I think the hardest part of being a postdoc in med school is finding the time to write, but I keep telling myself that this is just a taste of what life will be like in the future. I managed to write three book chapters for my supervisor, two review articles (modified from my thesis), and get a paper from my thesis work revamped and accepted. I have three complete studies from my postdoc work that I have to write up this summer, along with an invited review. I am presenting at a big conference in July.
My plans for the next couple of years are still in a state of flux. I just received a prestigious PDF award, which states that I must have 75% 'protected' time for research, so I may take a year off between 2nd and 3rd year to finish my postdoc. My supervisor has also set aside funds for me to hire a tech to work with me over the next year so that I can pursue my project rapidly while in school. I am sort of ambivalent about taking a year off for research now, since I spent 5 years on my PhD before med school, but then again my supervisor has been an amazing mentor so far, so I should probably just trust him. I guess that 10 years to complete my MD/PhD/postdoc with 15 pubs is probably worth it, but as many of you know, you start to wonder when you will ever have a 'real job'. 🙂
The other madness of this first year involved my pregnancy with my second daughter. I am very keen on a career in surgery, so my husband and I decided that I had to be finished with childbearing before residency. I ended up on bedrest at 28 weeks, so I completely missed the last block of med school. I managed to write all of the exams (and passed them!), so I am a rising 2nd year despite my extended absence. On the bright side though, bedrest sure does give you a lot of time to write! 😉
So anyway, I guess my reply to everyone that said a postdoc in med school couldn't be done is that, under the right circumstances, it can work. I would say that having the right supervisor is absolutely VITAL. There have been times where I have been overwhelmed, but I remind myself that I would be dissappointed if I wasn't working on this project, so it's sort of like being between a rock and a hard place.

Alright, that is enough rambling for now. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to either post or PM me. Best regards, Treg
 
I don't think you're busy enough...hahaha...just kidding.

Wow! Sounds like things are going extremely well for you! Great to hear from you again...thanks for the update!
 
wow, Treg, thanks for the update. i remember when we were applying and trying to decide on med schools! like you, i went to graduate school before medical school. i have no idea now you did all that work. you are just amazing!!! congratulations on your 2nd daughter!!! 🙂

good luck,
sparky
 
Treg, good job. It is not easy that is for sure.

BTW, have we talked before, exchanged Messages etc... cause someone told me about this post-doc funding for MD students in alberta. You may want to search that.

Also are you on the Canadian site, which one are you?????

Good luck with writing. I just prepared a draft of my third paper and submitted the second one. Man I hate writing now and fear the anger of the editors and what hoops I will have to jump through to get the paper accepted. Of course, I am not allowed to submitt to any journal below IF of 10. First one came out in PNAS, 2nd gone to Circulation and third is undicided yet. Thinking of JEM but they will probably ask for much more.

Okay back to my nap.

dBA
 
docbill said:
Treg, good job. It is not easy that is for sure.

BTW, have we talked before, exchanged Messages etc... cause someone told me about this post-doc funding for MD students in alberta. You may want to search that.

Also are you on the Canadian site, which one are you?????

Good luck with writing. I just prepared a draft of my third paper and submitted the second one. Man I hate writing now and fear the anger of the editors and what hoops I will have to jump through to get the paper accepted. Of course, I am not allowed to submitt to any journal below IF of 10. First one came out in PNAS, 2nd gone to Circulation and third is undicided yet. Thinking of JEM but they will probably ask for much more.

Okay back to my nap.

dBA

Hi docbill,

I have one of those Alberta postdoc awards for med school. They are great but they will only fund you p to 20% (i.e. 1 day per week) during the academic year, on principle, so the yearly income ends up being less than a graduate student. Lucky for me that my supervisor has supplemented my income, since I worked more than that! I guess it is all a moot point now with my new fellowship.

I am on the Canadian site--CD4CD25 (markers for a Treg, haha). Good luck with those high impact journals. At least they bounce you quickly compared to other journals, so it isn't too much of a time investment risk to go for it. Hoop jumping is just part of the game at this stage, along with who your supervisor knows, etc.


Sparky--Thanks for the congrats. You are at Wash U, right? How was first year? I often wonder what things would have been like for me if I had opted to go there....

🙂 Treg
 
Ahhh that is a good one. CD4+CD25+ = T.reg

I actually work on NK and DC cells. Started off purely stem cells, but then found that they play with the immune cells. T.reg is also interesting. Definitely they play with my cells.
 
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