Don't a huge chunk (majority even?) of surveyed PDs in some competitive specialties identify "graduate of a well known medical school" as a factor they give weight? Pretty certain I saw that in the match report dataset. Obvs not as important as step 1, clinical grades, letters etc, but not totally irrelevant !
Oh I gotcha. Yeah I just thought it was interesting to note that NYU's impressiveness to peers and residencies isn't quite at the level that the research rank would suggest. But I doubt anyone ever gets turned down for a res interview because they "only" went to a place like NYU or Baylor or UCSD. These are all phenomenal
It's the US News paid subscription. Paying something like $25 gets you a year of access to a bunch of specific stats like the number of people accepted to each medical school, residency and peer scores, GPAs and MCATs (this part redundant if you have MSAR)
What does that mean though? Well known on the region? In the state ? In the nation? Well known because they accepted alum from that school in previous years ? Well known because the state has a great basketball team?
Thats the point I was trying to make, who knows what a PD is thinking when they say " Well Known" and it could mean a lot of different things. The local Derm residency PD may think the local state school is "well known" to them.
The US News survey is at least a little more explicit, saying that the rating is on a 1-5 scale with 1 "marginal" and 5 "outstanding" instead of asking if you know of the school.
I am guessing almost no one cares what undergrad you went to. Medical school quality once again gives the qualitative assessment that falls into the "well known" problem. The productivity in medical school ,grades, STEPS and letters are probably what really matter.
Extremely, extremely unlikely. What are the pricetags were talking about?
The US News ranks are explicitly Research ranks and factor NIH funding and funding per capita among faculty in very heavily. That's probably why some schools have big mismatch.
By comparison couldn't you make statements like "56% of PDs consider research a complete non-factor" ? That would be a pretty misleading thing to say though when there is nuance about types of residencies, with community vs academic or the specialty in question having some very different views.
What do you think about going to Case Western's 59k vs a no name's 18k?
I think for ~170k (not even accounting for interest) it would be a no brainer for me, unless I hated the no name for valid reasons outside of reputation
Yeah the amount is staggering. What if I was very interested in ortho/neurosurg though? Would you still recommend state school?
Well, what state school? But still I think I'd be going state and not looking back.
UT Medical Branch Galveston.
It's pretty rare for anyone to have to actually pay that rate at WashU from what I understand. Their median indebtedness among those that must borrow is ~90k, lowest anywhere except for Mayo I believe, and they offer a 50% scholarship - 50% loan package for all demonstrated need. If you do know you'd actually be paying sticker prices though, I'd still struggle to justify picking WashU. If you're the type of person to get into Top 10s I think you can get a good step score and build a good app from Galveston.
