Med school vs CRNA school?

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Hey guys, non-student here a few years off of college and am deciding to go back to school. I am wondering what the most ideal option for me would be, given that I do not enjoy medical sciences very much. That said, I'm one of the smartest kids you'll ever meet, so I can conquer the academic challenges of these schools, but I would be doing it solely for the lifestyle/financial compensation.

Would me going back to school and getting a NP degree be wiser than going to med school? Becoming a CRNA and an MD for me would both take about the same amount of time for me, so the main thing I'm eyeing is the job flexibility of the CRNA along with their supposedly easier schooling path. That being said, I'm also worried that the job market for CRNA's isn't as stable as it for MD's.

As for me disliking not "being in charge" as a CRNA, I mean I wouldn't like my job either way as an MD or CRNA, but being a CRNA has part-time opportunities and there are good lifestyle specialties in medicine (psych is there even if I bomb Step 1). The prestige means nothing to me. Any help would be appreciated!
 
I apologize in advance for the length of this reply.

I’ve thought about this many times. I have many years in nursing-critical care-critical care peds, supervision, and community health. It's just hard for me to get passionate about CRNA. I graduated from a great university summa cum laude, but I have some youngster issues from earlier days of schooling--like a number of us. I am seriously running out of time, and I have to make a decision pretty darn soon. I'm older than the average non-trad I think. Doesn't matter if anyone can guess my age. It can easily be read in the data. One person at work was so intrigued about what my real age was, she decided to be sneaky and look up my BD. She was out of line, but hey, to me that just showed her insecurity.

As for CRNA, to me it's not about "being in charge," whatever that really means in the face of healthcare realities today. I just think I would be interested early on in training, and then lose interest. The issue with CRNA is the good money in a comparatively lesser period of time contrasted with medicine. I am pretty much honed in on primary care at this point in my life. My only issue with FM is that I'd like to have a good mix with at least a nice 40% of peds. I don't know that that would be possible in most settings. I know I would just love, love, love ED--thing is, I've done so much of my share of off shifts and rotating shifts--that makes ED a big downside to me at this point in my life.

I think you need to get more insight into the various roles of physicians and CRNAs. Have you shadowed at all? Have you ever really worked in a hospital or healthcare? It has changed a ton--and I am talking about huge insurance and management bombs that would tend to make anyone in medicine nervous. In the end, to me, you've got to go where you heart is--and you have to do the leg work and get the right experiences in order to assess them and what they feel like or mean to you.
Make a chart, get some experiences in healthcare under your belt--you know, like the close up and personal stuff.

And don't let the goofy comments that fly around here about the suck-factor of nurses cleaning up crap get to you. That always makes me laugh. That has ALWAYS been the least of the stress and aggravation in nursing. People that haven't worked it really do NOT have a clue. People bleeding out on you, or running to code one baby, and then another whilst trying to keep on top of the third baby's ABGs--that's more the pain in the butt than any crap, blood, or vomit cleaning. (And holistically, we believe it is humane to bring cleanliness and comfort to a person in need that is limited in their ability to deal with their own bodily functions--just as sadly any number of us will one day face--regardless of what our roles or titles have been. I mean I think retired and dying presidents and political big wigs know what I mean by that.) You either care for people in their states of humanity--especially since you are human too--or you don't. It matters not whether the role is one of nurse or physician in that regard.


I think your big question may be, do you really find things in medical science intriguing, and do you like helping people in dealing with such things?
BTW, I am by no means saying CRNA school = Med school. But I will tell you that CRNA is 2.5 years or so (after getting your RN-BSN and working for a good year or so of ICU) of busting hump both didactically and clinically. Many programs can be competitive. Educational requirements are changing in the area of CRNA as well. Getting a Master's is becoming the old way, and it's changing to PhD--if certain forces have their way. This will required involvement in some research to be published. Of course you realize before you apply for CRNA, you must be a licensed RN with a four-year degree--I'm not sure if it's definitely BSN--I say this b/c of RRTs that got in to CRNA school--but I think they did have to gain a BSN or BA or something. GREs are usually required, as is also some strong critical care RN experience--like ICU, SICU, Open Heart ICU, PICU, etc. I think they are now counting RN, ED experience; although strong university-centered ICU experience is better; b/c you have to take the time to think through the particulars from a pathophysiology standpoint--whereas in the ED, the nurse doesn't always have the time to do this as she/he might in even a busy high-level ICU setting.

Not sure what you mean about CRNA and MD taking the same amount of time. Pretty sure MD/DO is longer and harder--even when you consider the push for CRNAs with PhDs.
Good luck whatever you decide.
 
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That said, I'm one of the smartest kids you'll ever meet, so I can conquer the academic challenges of these schools, but I would be doing it solely for the lifestyle/financial compensation.



I wouldn't like my job either way as an MD or CRNA, but being a CRNA has part-time opportunities and there are good lifestyle specialties in medicine (psych is there even if I bomb Step 1). The prestige means nothing to me. Any help would be appreciated!

You're super smart (and good looking, presumably?) and you wouldn't like a job in medicine? Why are you here?
Let me help you:

Top 10 Law School.

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Educational requirements are changing in the area of CRNA as well. Getting a Master's is becoming the old way, and it's changing to PhD--if certain forces have their way............
Not sure what you mean about CRNA and MD taking the same amount of time. Pretty sure MD/DO is longer and harder--even when you consider the push for CRNAs with PhDs.
Good luck whatever you decide.


No one is pushing for CRNA's to get a PhD. A PhD is an academic research degree and in a completely different class of degree from the desire for CRNA schools to start calling their education doctoral with the next ten years. This just adds to their appearance of legitimacy and their desire to appear on par with actual physicians (MD/DO) because they will then start asking to be called doctor in a medical setting like the NPs are doing.

http://www.aana.com/newsandjournal/...y-into-Nurse-Anesthesia-Practice-by-2025.aspx
 
Hey guys, non-student here a few years off of college and am deciding to go back to school. I am wondering what the most ideal option for me would be, given that I do not enjoy medical sciences very much. That said, I'm one of the smartest kids you'll ever meet, so I can conquer the academic challenges of these schools, but I would be doing it solely for the lifestyle/financial compensation.

Would me going back to school and getting a NP degree be wiser than going to med school? Becoming a CRNA and an MD for me would both take about the same amount of time for me, so the main thing I'm eyeing is the job flexibility of the CRNA along with their supposedly easier schooling path. That being said, I'm also worried that the job market for CRNA's isn't as stable as it for MD's.

As for me disliking not "being in charge" as a CRNA, I mean I wouldn't like my job either way as an MD or CRNA, but being a CRNA has part-time opportunities and there are good lifestyle specialties in medicine (psych is there even if I bomb Step 1). The prestige means nothing to me. Any help would be appreciated!
Don't do either.
 
Based on you being "One of the smartest kids I'll ever meet" I'd say you'd fit right in at most medical schools. There are a ton of you "smartest kids I'll ever meet" at med schools across the country. Y'all are the kids that have "smart kid" questions at the end of every single lecture. So my $0.02 for you.......when you do start med school (I know the following likely won't be possible) but do everything you can to resist the urge to rush down to the lecturer after class and ask him all of your "smart kid" questions.........Let me assure you that everyone else in the room (those not in line to harass the lecturer), including the lecturer, thinks you're a clown.

So as to the question in the title.....I vote Med School for you!
 
but I would be doing it solely for the lifestyle/financial compensation.

I mean I wouldn't like my job either way as an MD or CRNA, !

stay away from medicine. stay away from hospitals. buy a nice suit and go be a yes man on wall street.
 
No one is pushing for CRNA's to get a PhD. A PhD is an academic research degree and in a completely different class of degree from the desire for CRNA schools to start calling their education doctoral with the next ten years. This just adds to their appearance of legitimacy and their desire to appear on par with actual physicians (MD/DO) because they will then start asking to be called doctor in a medical setting like the NPs are doing.

http://www.aana.com/newsandjournal/...y-into-Nurse-Anesthesia-Practice-by-2025.aspx


Sorry...a doctoral degree....some research w publication will be a part of it, at least to some degree.


General point is the same. It won't be like the old days, and already it isn't, as you have so nicely shared.

Either path requires a good understanding of the work itself and the various processes. Both are somewhat involved. Still, the road in medicine seems harder. OP would do well to research and evaluate these things.

As a CC RN,BSN, I have seen enough of the CRNA role to know that I'd eventually be bored w it, and the lame politics that often go along w it.
Painfully tapped out on iPad.
 
Based on you being "One of the smartest kids I'll ever meet" I'd say you'd fit right in at most medical schools. There are a ton of you "smartest kids I'll ever meet" at med schools across the country. Y'all are the kids that have "smart kid" questions at the end of every single lecture. So my $0.02 for you.......when you do start med school (I know the following likely won't be possible) but do everything you can to resist the urge to rush down to the lecturer after class and ask him all of your "smart kid" questions.........Let me assure you that everyone else in the room (those not in line to harass the lecturer), including the lecturer, thinks you're a clown.

So as to the question in the title.....I vote Med School for you!
Hahhaha, yeah I might be guilty of that, but most professors I talk to just seem happy that you're so interested in the subject and were paying attention, it might be different in med school. But unlike those kids I'm also smart enough to know that there might be an easier path that doesn't suck up the best years of your life for similar rewards.

I'm also one of the most caring people you will ever meet, its just that the volume of people you are helping in medicine isn't very high so I'm not that thrilled about that aspect of it. I apologize for my brash description of myself, after a while you learn to call a spade a spade and not mince words.
 
Hahhaha, yeah I might be guilty of that, but most professors I talk to just seem happy that you're so interested in the subject and were paying attention, it might be different in med school. But unlike those kids I'm also smart enough to know that there might be an easier path that doesn't suck up the best years of your life for similar rewards.

I'm also one of the most caring people you will ever meet, its just that the volume of people you are helping in medicine isn't very high so I'm not that thrilled about that aspect of it. I apologize for my brash description of myself, after a while you learn to call a spade a spade and not mince words.
YOU ARE GOD, MAN!
 
Hahhaha, yeah I might be guilty of that, but most professors I talk to just seem happy that you're so interested in the subject and were paying attention, it might be different in med school. But unlike those kids I'm also smart enough to know that there might be an easier path that doesn't suck up the best years of your life for similar rewards.

I'm also one of the most caring people you will ever meet, its just that the volume of people you are helping in medicine isn't very high so I'm not that thrilled about that aspect of it. I apologize for my brash description of myself, after a while you learn to call a spade a spade and not mince words.


Holy ****!

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Hahhaha, yeah I might be guilty of that, but most professors I talk to just seem happy that you're so interested in the subject and were paying attention, it might be different in med school. But unlike those kids I'm also smart enough to know that there might be an easier path that doesn't suck up the best years of your life for similar rewards.

I'm also one of the most caring people you will ever meet, its just that the volume of people you are helping in medicine isn't very high so I'm not that thrilled about that aspect of it. I apologize for my brash description of myself, after a while you learn to call a spade a spade and not mince words.

Guess it does not get better for everybody after high school
 
I've got to stop mincing words and start telling people how f*cking awesome I am.
 
Hey guys, non-student here a few years off of college and am deciding to go back to school. I am wondering what the most ideal option for me would be, given that I do not enjoy medical sciences very much. That said, I'm one of the smartest kids you'll ever meet, so I can conquer the academic challenges of these schools, but I would be doing it solely for the lifestyle/financial compensation.

Would me going back to school and getting a NP degree be wiser than going to med school? Becoming a CRNA and an MD for me would both take about the same amount of time for me, so the main thing I'm eyeing is the job flexibility of the CRNA along with their supposedly easier schooling path. That being said, I'm also worried that the job market for CRNA's isn't as stable as it for MD's.

As for me disliking not "being in charge" as a CRNA, I mean I wouldn't like my job either way as an MD or CRNA, but being a CRNA has part-time opportunities and there are good lifestyle specialties in medicine (psych is there even if I bomb Step 1). The prestige means nothing to me. Any help would be appreciated!

If you don't enjoy the medical sciences, don't go to med school. That should be obvious. It's not for the faint of heart, and the pay isn't good enough to compensate for the hardship. Look for another career. You have to actually enjoy it a little for it to be worthwhile.
 
Speaking as someone who didn't enjoy learning several of the medical sciences very much and who has been partaking of the suboptimal medical training lifestyle for several years, I would advise you to not choose a career in health care at all. It might be helpful if you thought about what you do enjoy studying/doing and looked into how you could make a career out of that.
 
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