Med Schools' Responses to the New CDC Guidelines

[Skarl]

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On 3/8/2021, CDC released interim guidelines for fully vaccinated individuals stating that:

"Fully vaccinated people can:
- Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
- Visit with unvaccinated people from a single household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
- Refrain from quarantine and testing following a known exposure if asymptomatic"

Curious to hear what changes and announcements medical schools have made in response to this, especially with regards to pre-clinical students whose schooling is currently fully or mostly remote. I know from speaking with my classmates that many feel isolated from classmates, disconnected from the community, and particularly burnt out with lack of in-person activities.

My school is currently hybrid with anatomy and clinical skills sessions in-person (albeit modified from prior years). They have announced that they will look into potential changes in response to the updated CDC guidelines, but the messaging has been vague.

 

[Goro]

On 3/8/2021, CDC released interim guidelines for fully vaccinated individuals stating that:

"Fully vaccinated people can:
- Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
- Visit with unvaccinated people from a single household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
- Refrain from quarantine and testing following a known exposure if asymptomatic"

Curious to hear what changes and announcements medical schools have made in response to this, especially with regards to pre-clinical students whose schooling is currently fully or mostly remote. I know from speaking with my classmates that many feel isolated from classmates, disconnected from the community, and particularly burnt out with lack of in-person activities.

My school is currently hybrid with anatomy and clinical skills sessions in-person (albeit modified from prior years). They have announced that they will look into potential changes in response to the updated CDC guidelines, but the messaging has been vague.

If we can get all of our Faculty and students immunized (which is very feasible), then I think that we'll be a go for getting back onto campus this fall!

 

[Nugester]

At the moment:

Mostly online, some in person stuff that are small groups that are alternating/staggered (clinical skills, for example). For us first years, all exams in person. Even before the new guidelines, the powers that be: "unless we see a turn for the worse, expect to be on campus in the fall/to resume normal operations".

No official announcement yet but I don't expect that to change, especially with the push with vaccination and the new administration.

 

[frenchyn]

Stupid question: so even after vaccines, carrier is not a concern anymore?

 

[Skarl]

Stupid question: so even after vaccines, carrier is not a concern anymore?

Interesting news that Pfizer is 94% effective at preventing asymptomatic transmission: Pfizer Covid vaccine blocks 94% of asymptomatic infections and 97% of symptomatic cases in Israeli study curious to see the published data.

All this notwithstanding, all three of the vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J) have demonstrated robust protection against severe illness and death and the percentage of people vaccinated in the US is rapidly increasing. I don't think it gets much better than this in terms of a threshold.

 

[frenchyn]

Interesting news that Pfizer is 94% effective at preventing asymptomatic transmission: Pfizer Covid vaccine blocks 94% of asymptomatic infections and 97% of symptomatic cases in Israeli study curious to see the published data.

All this notwithstanding, all three of the vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J) have demonstrated robust protection against severe illness and death and the percentage of people vaccinated in the US is rapidly increasing. I don't think it gets much better than this in terms of a threshold.

Thx. 94 asymptomatic transmission. How about non infected carrier?

 

[Maimonides1]

Vaccine open season by May 1, 2021

And

The Sun of Medical Education will rise by July 4th
Students, Cheer up as brighter days are coming ahead for all of US!

 

[jambro]

Am i the only one who is going to miss mainly online med school? I love having the freedom to study whenever I want and not be forced to go in-person to ridiculous mandatory things...

 

[mmchick]

Thx. 94 asymptomatic transmission. How about non infected carrier?

If you’re not infected, how could you possibly have enough viral load to shed off to other people. We don’t assume non-infected individuals will give others Tb or SARS... not sure why COVID is an exception in everyone’s mind. You still would need enough viral load achieved through intra-host replication to then shed off onto others... non-infection incidental particles that aren’t even adhering well to their host couldn’t possibly just be sneezed back out and have enough integrity to adhere to someone else lol

 

[Redpancreas]

Am i the only one who is going to miss mainly online med school? I love having the freedom to study whenever I want and not be forced to go in-person to ridiculous mandatory things...

The way many medical school's run their curriculum, I wouldn't blame you. The travesty's that the medical schools don't take advantage of their core asset which is a hospital for M1-M2s. I feel the learning ought to be more practical/integrated. Some disagree feeling that 2 years of pure classroom is what differentiates us from NP/PAs and needs to be preserved.

If we can get all of our Faculty and students immunized (which is very feasible), then I think that we'll be a go for getting back onto campus this fall!

20% of the US population has apparently received one dose and the current administration projects an open season as someone already pointed out by May 1st. I have no doubt in mind medical schools will be able to run effectively this upcoming fall.

 

[Nugester]

Am i the only one who is going to miss mainly online med school? I love having the freedom to study whenever I want and not be forced to go in-person to ridiculous mandatory things...

I don't mind it and probably will rely on it even when they allow us back. Kind of miss making friends and maybe the occasional block party.

 

[ohmanwaddup]

The way many medical school's run their curriculum, I wouldn't blame you. The travesty's that the medical schools don't take advantage of their core asset which is a hospital for M1-M2s. I feel the learning ought to be more practical/integrated. Some disagree feeling that 2 years of pure classroom is what differentiates us from NP/PAs and needs to be preserved.


20% of the US population has apparently received one dose and the current administration projects an open season as someone already pointed out by May 1st. I have no doubt in mind medical schools will be able to run effectively this upcoming fall.

It is kinda crazy to think this whole thing may only last 1 year/1.5 years(and how much better if could have been if people weren't selfish) They say open season by may 1st, but my state (ohio) is already vaccinating those 50 and up. If its open to 40 and up before may 1st, well I see little reason things would not be fully open and back to normal before June.