Medical schools do rescind acceptances over comments on social networks

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

shinbeats

Membership Revoked
Removed
10+ Year Member
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
558
Reaction score
5
I just wanted to let everyone on SDN know that medical schools do actually check out social networks for judging their applicants. Matter of fact recently a student (even though n=1) had his acceptance rescinded due to inappropriate comments made on a social network this is very real and can happen to anyone. I think it's very important to make sure every member of SDN is fully aware of this to avoid such tragic things from occurring in the future. This thread is not dedicated to bring up history or to bring up any names but to simply avoid history from repeating itself. Let us use SDN for the intentions of helping others and not hurting others while we pursue the dream of becoming one of societies most respected and trusted professionals.
**It is important to be professional online especially when on pseudo professional forums where future classmates, adcom, teachers etc may be lurking. In the end of the day we are all humans and have emotions and feelings but it's important to not cross the line.**
 
Last edited:
What did they say? You have to give the dirt now :corny:
 
What did they say? You have to give the dirt now :corny:

I think the original post speaks for itself on whether this truly can happen or not. I don't want to pull any names or any incidents. I just want everyone to know that this is something can really happen and it's important for this forum which is educational to spread the awareness.
 
I'm pretty sure everyone on here and their mom knows about the event you're bringing up. Let's not start another thread about schools checking your Internet tracks........

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile
 
This has already been discussed at great lengths on all the major sub-forums- pre-osteo, pre-allo, allo, etc. and then the mods deleted everything.

There only appears to be this one thread left on the topic.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=966423

So yeah, don't say anything on the internet you wouldn't say in real life... I know, shocker 🙄
 
It's a pretty sad episode in the life of SDN. Alot of people take things for granted, especially what they say in here. I hope the said person can pick himself back together and keep pushing forward.
 
Yeah, I thought this was a prank?

The person never came back to confirm it was. Considering they posted frequently and the urgency of the thread you'd figure they'd come back to say something about it. Kind of how almost none of the people that do badly on the MCAT respond back to their respective MCAT thread.
 
Would that person get a chance to appeal? What if the online persona wasn't even the person they thought it was?
 
The person never came back to confirm it was. Considering they posted frequently and the urgency of the thread you'd figure they'd come back to say something about it. Kind of how almost none of the people that do badly on the MCAT respond back to their respective MCAT thread.

Yeah, the person in question would do this because getting into trouble the first time for saying things of a sensitive nature on the internet is not enough for dissuasion.
 
The person never came back to confirm it was. Considering they posted frequently and the urgency of the thread you'd figure they'd come back to say something about it. Kind of how almost none of the people that do badly on the MCAT respond back to their respective MCAT thread.

Real name on sdn, real name on mdapps, real name + life on facebook. No thanks jeff.
 
I have gone to great lengths to ensure my anonymity on SDN. I refuse to post my stats or any other activities. I even refuse to even post in any of the specific threads of the schools I'm applying to. I don't post anything "explicit" here, but I do have some fairly strong opinions that I express on issues in healthcare.

My question is: would it be possible for adcoms to figure out my identity through IP tracing? I'm kinda worried.
 
The person never came back to confirm it was. Considering they posted frequently and the urgency of the thread you'd figure they'd come back to say something about it. Kind of how almost none of the people that do badly on the MCAT respond back to their respective MCAT thread.

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. I recall the person saying that they were going to call the school on Monday (today) and find out if it was a prank or not. I was looking forward to seeing how it all played out in the end.
 
I have gone to great lengths to ensure my anonymity on SDN. I refuse to post my stats or any other activities. I even refuse to even post in any of the specific threads of the schools I'm applying to. I don't post anything "explicit" here, but I do have some fairly strong opinions that I express on issues in healthcare.

My question is: would it be possible for adcoms to figure out my identity through IP tracing? I'm kinda worried.

Pretty sure they would need a court order to obtain that info from SDN. So no real chance unless you are already in a ton of trouble for some reason.
 
I think the situation was someone reported this user prompting an investigation by the school. I honestly don't think schools waste their time looking people up on their own.

So it wasn't a prank?

Yeah, I thought this was a prank?

The person never came back to confirm it was. Considering they posted frequently and the urgency of the thread you'd figure they'd come back to say something about it. Kind of how almost none of the people that do badly on the MCAT respond back to their respective MCAT thread.

People close to the person in question have confirmed it was real.
 
I must be the only person on here, to not know what sort of "prank" this individual performed. Can somebody enlighten me?
 
I have gone to great lengths to ensure my anonymity on SDN. I refuse to post my stats or any other activities. I even refuse to even post in any of the specific threads of the schools I'm applying to. I don't post anything "explicit" here, but I do have some fairly strong opinions that I express on issues in healthcare.

My question is: would it be possible for adcoms to figure out my identity through IP tracing? I'm kinda worried.

You have got to be kidding me. Paranoid to the max.

What adcom wants to go through that trouble to see if you applied to their school? Like seriously... It's not like they're IP tracing us all to find the couple of people that sent applications. They have better things to be doing.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile
 
You have got to be kidding me. Paranoid to the max.

What adcom wants to go through that trouble to see if you applied to their school? Like seriously... It's not like they're IP tracing us all to find the couple of people that sent applications. They have better things to be doing.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile

I meant after acceptance.


Pretty sure they would need a court order to obtain that info from SDN. So no real chance unless you are already in a ton of trouble for some reason.

Then I probably shouldn't mention that I've been putting my Organic Chem knowledge towards, uh, less legally valid uses.




(joking)
 
You have got to be kidding me. Paranoid to the max.

What adcom wants to go through that trouble to see if you applied to their school? Like seriously... It's not like they're IP tracing us all to find the couple of people that sent applications. They have better things to be doing.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile

It would help out the job market if they hired tech savvy college kids to trace back IP addresses for every applicant. I know of several people that would be up for the job.
 
I meant after acceptance.




Then I probably shouldn't mention that I've been putting my Organic Chem knowledge towards, uh, less legally valid uses.

quoted. reporting you to amcas/aacomas right now. BOOM!





































(notsrs)
 
I meant after acceptance.




Then I probably shouldn't mention that I've been putting my Organic Chem knowledge towards, uh, less legally valid uses.




(joking)

Even so, how would they even begin to know where to start looking for their accepted students? If you've left no hint of your identity, they'd hypothetically have to check everyone to find you via an IP trace. Even those aren't conclusive.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile
 
Real name on sdn, real name on mdapps, real name + life on facebook. No thanks jeff.

This was like a perfect storm of stupid **** that was basically asking for a problem. This thread title should come with the caveat that this user was incredibly dumb when it came to protecting his online persona from his offline life.
 
I'm going to get on my soap box here for a bit guys bear with me...(Perhaps on another level of soap box? I am always on one anyway 😀 )

1. Internet and real life are merging at a really fast pace so that "It is the internet" line will likely not hold much credence in the future. There are societal standards that being on the internet does not liberate you from.

2. We are all entitled to our personal opinions and we should not always agree but it makes us all better human beings if we can disagree respectfully without going down to the level of vicious mud slinging.

3. SDN is a proffessional type forum. Adcoms, future class and school mates, teachers etc are on here. Keep that in mind whenever you post. Not to say we should be come politically correct little angels, but it is the mark of a mature person to be able to hold a controversial opinion without being a douche.

4. Meaness will get you no where, not in real life and not on the internet.

5. We all probably have engaged in questionable activities online. No one is perfect. Do not assume you are totally covered.

6. And for ****s sake learn to take responsibility for your actions.

Edit: I doubt schools are going to be looking up IP addresses and ****, but if you give them reason to take a closer look at you (and not in a good way) don't get all whiney when they do.
 
I'm going to get on my soap box here for a bit guys bear with me...(Perhaps on another level of soap box? I am always on one anyway 😀 )

1. Internet and real life are merging at a really fast pace so that "It is the internet" line will likely not hold much credence in the future. There are societal standards that being on the internet does not liberate you from.

2. We are all entitled to our personal opinions and we should not always agree but it makes us all better human beings if we can disagree respectfully without going down to the level of vicious mud slinging.

3. SDN is a proffessional type forum. Adcoms, future class and school mates, teachers etc are on here. Keep that in mind whenever you post. Not to say we should be come politically correct little angels, but it is the mark of a mature person to be able to hold a controversial opinion without being a douche.

4. Meaness will get you no where, not in real life and not on the internet.

5. We all probably have engaged in questionable activities online. No one is perfect. Do not assume you are totally covered.

6. And for ****s sake learn to take responsibility for your actions.

Edit: I doubt schools are going to be looking up IP addresses and ****, but if you give them reason to take a closer look at you (and not in a good way) don't get all whiney when they do.

Except for #6, I pretty much need to put these in practice while on the internet.
 
I get hyped up whenever someone calls a person a troll when they're asking an honest question. It'll probably lead to the ban of me.
 
I am genuinely curious as to why the mods deleted all of those threads. Was it because they were afraid people would stop using SDN?
 
I still don't know what the heck happened. Everyone just keeps referring to what this person "did" and what "prank" or "hoax" he did. But not actual details
 
I am genuinely curious as to why the mods deleted all of those threads. Was it because they were afraid people would stop using SDN?

I think the OP deleted his original post and maybe he and the creator of the second thread came to an agreement? The mods in Pre Osteo made it clear that they do not just go around deleting threads they do not like.
 
I am genuinely curious as to why the mods deleted all of those threads. Was it because they were afraid people would stop using SDN?

I thought there were only two threads? One that still exists, and the other (the first one) deleted by the OP who bought gold donor status to do so.
 
I still don't know what the heck happened. Everyone just keeps referring to what this person "did" and what "prank" or "hoax" he did. But not actual details

I quoted your other post and linked you to the thread with all the details.
 
I have gone to great lengths to ensure my anonymity on SDN. I refuse to post my stats or any other activities. I even refuse to even post in any of the specific threads of the schools I'm applying to. I don't post anything "explicit" here, but I do have some fairly strong opinions that I express on issues in healthcare.

My question is: would it be possible for adcoms to figure out my identity through IP tracing? I'm kinda worried.

Adcoms do not have access to this type of information.
 
I still don't know what the heck happened. Everyone just keeps referring to what this person "did" and what "prank" or "hoax" he did. But not actual details


To put it simply...

Originally Posted by SpecterGT260
Voldemort got linked to his online persona by Hogwarts SOM, and they rescinded his acceptance for calling someone a mudblood amongst other things. The Ministry of Magic is alleged to have been involved in some way.
 
Last edited:
Would that person get a chance to appeal? What if the online persona wasn't even the person they thought it was?

Exactly, you could easily be framed by some gunner as well. I doubt this is true. It'd be impossible to prove someone's identity online.
 
Exactly, you could easily be framed by some gunner as well. I doubt this is true. It'd be impossible to prove someone's identity online.


Some how I doubt a school would take action this drastic without being sure they had their man. Let's not forget that the rules of internet anonymity weren't exactly being followed in this case.
 
I am genuinely curious as to why the mods deleted all of those threads. Was it because they were afraid people would stop using SDN?

Probably to stop the OP from digging a deeper hole. He was pretty active in that discussion and people were asking to see information and all that.

I think the OP had his actual facebook account involved and that's never a good idea.
 
Just to be clear this was not a prank, sdn users close to him confirmed that it was not a prank. On top of it I sent an email to the school the day the "defendant" mentioned the incident and wanted people to contact the school in regards to the character. I received an email from the school this morning saying that they pretty much had already made a final decision in regards to him the case was closed but they would forward the email to the dean any ways so this is real.

As someone mentioned previously no adcom is going to stalk you or your ip address but if you have a mdapplicants profile with your exact stats, a sdn username with your actual real name, a signature of the school and class, are a member of the facebook group recognized by the dean of the school and on top of all of that you use racial slurs and make unprofessional comments on the social media to fellow future classmates then you can expect the school to take some action.

I don't think anyone except for this unfortunate case would be dumb enough to disclose such massive amounts of detail about themselves. Either way this is a learning experience and we must realize sdn has faculty and adcom visiting on a regular basis. It's also important to note that when you have an acceptance you need to be careful about what you say at least until you matriculate meaning attend white coat ceremony, go through orientation and actually attend first day of medical school.
 
Exactly, you could easily be framed by some gunner as well. I doubt this is true. It'd be impossible to prove someone's identity online.

I understand that this is the umpteenth thread on this subject, but honestly the aftershocks of such an event will take awhile to completely subside. I don't want to drag things on any further than are necessary out of common decency towards this user but based on conversations both in previous threads and some PMs that I have received:

This user had his SDN handle and facebook names very close to his real name. He made facebook groups both for users on SDN as well as for people accepted to his medschool class - the latter of which (at least) the school in question was aware of. This user was involved in spats with other people both on SDN and on the facebook groups in which he said things he really shouldn't have (things that were unprofessional, but at the same time things that may easily slip out especially when you think nobody is looking, and let's leave it at that).

Now, the school said that they had "conducted an investigation" into his activities on "social media" which could be anything from SDN (although social media seems to be more of a common title for...) or facebook. This may have been prompted by an SDN user who was upset with him, or by someone on one of the facebook groups, many of which were also SDN users. In the course of this they found things that he had posted (again, very likely FB, which is much harder to deny, especially if there are multiple instances across several time points) which they felt were not in line with their motivations or standards of professionalism. His offer of acceptance was rescinded. The school does not have any obligation to you until you set foot in your first class. This doesnt mean that schools are looking for reasons to boot people (after all, the people staffing them are people too. They probably are more interested in going home and eating leftovers in front of the TV than tracking down shenanigans online), but it does mean that they don't have to explain themselves when they decide to cut ties with an accepted student.

I am posting this level of detail only because I saw each of the threads in the fallout and these sorts of things can tend to spiral out of control in terms of rumor and unhindered speculation, and that is only going to make this drag on longer than is necessary. For those reading who are confused and/or concerned about their own actions just remember:
1) anonymity is a very good thing, regardless of how you behave online.
2) Schools have no obligation to you until they have invested in you.
3) Schools are more interested in filling seats the first time around, and they will not likely remove someone lightly.

So, if possible, lets keep this from growing out of proportion and generating rumors and speculation.
 
I really want to read the letter....it sounds like it was very intense! Must have been the most horrible experience in the world reading it for the first time as the recipient.
 
But I still think it was some butthurt SDN member. Some people on here are way to weird/competitive. And its not the regular posters... its the people who have been here for like 2 years and have 50 posts. I would not be surprised if it was one of these people that reported him.

Anyways... this wasn't good for ACOM either. Whenever an SDN poster thinks of ACOM from now on, this incident is the first thing that will come to mind.
 
As someone mentioned previously no adcom is going to stalk you or your ip address but if you have a mdapplicants profile with your exact stats, a sdn username with your actual real name, a signature of the school and class, are a member of the facebook group recognized by the dean of the school and on top of all of that you use racial slurs and make unprofessional comments on the social media to fellow future classmates then you can expect the school to take some action.

Ugh. I am mostly a lurker, but I find this whole thing lame. That school, its dean and whoever else were in on the decision process should have started a reinterview process, sent a warning instead of a letter rescinding his admission. The school's actions do not reek of class imho. :eyebrow:
 
Last edited:
But I still think it was some butthurt SDN member. Some people on here are way to weird/competitive. And its not the regular posters... its the people who have been here for like 2 years and have 50 posts. I would not be surprised if it was one of these people that reported him.

Anyways... this wasn't good for ACOM either. Whenever an SDN poster thinks of ACOM from now on, this incident is the first thing that will come to mind.

Remember, remember, the 21st of November.

Sent from my SGH-T999 using SDN Mobile
 
Top