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Since most medical students don't have an actual income, do we qualify for mortgages? I want to buy a townhouse or something in medical school, but I don't know if it would be possible. Does anyone know anything about that? 😕
 
epitomedoc said:
Since most medical students don't have an actual income, do we qualify for mortgages? I want to buy a townhouse or something in medical school, but I don't know if it would be possible. Does anyone know anything about that? 😕
maybe a no-doc mortgage, does not require income verification i think, but u may have to put down a bunch. i am investigating the same thing. will let cha know if i find anythin out this week....

there are some mortgage discussions in allo and gen residency too.
 
Companies have special loans for medical students/recent grads, I think you can secure a loan without income verification if you can prove you'll be able to handle the mortgage/expenses, but if your single you'll need a cosigner who can (has the income assets) handle the mortgage should you default. If their willing, your parents would due-- I'm sure.
 
I am investigating the same thing. As far as I can tell, most people of to do what is called a kiddy condo loan, where someone needs to co-sign to back up the loan. It seems pretty easy to do if you have some willing to co-sign. I was wondering if you can use loan money for a down payment?
 
I am actually in the approval process right now. Most mortgage companies are into shady business practices. If you buy a new home (new construction), it is really easy in most cases to be approved. You can do a true no-doc loan in which you dont have to prove income or employment. The downside is a higher interest rate of course. Or, if you have someone you know that is self employed, etc, you can probably convince the company to do a stated income mortgage in which you can verify employment ( 😉 😉 ) but not income. Verification of employment involves your "employer" writing a letter saying you have worked for them for two years. It really is like a one sentence letter. The interest rate is slightly lower in this situation. Moreover, if you can prove assets (usually means you can show 2 months mortgage in your bank account) then your interest rate is even lower. Rule of thumb, the more you show the lower the rate. Furthermore, there are programs out there in which you can do 100% financing with a no-doc or stated loan. In other words, no down payment. However, you usually have to pay closing costs, unless, you use a new home builder that will cover your closing costs with incentives, etc.

The advantages to 100% financing (aka 80/20 mortgage)? NO PMI. The only real other way to avoid PMI is by putting 20% down. If there are other ways perhaps someone else will share them.

I would also consider doing an ARM unless you plan on living in the house for 7 or more years. An arm gives you a fixed (lower) rate for the first 2,3,5,7,10 years etc. After that, the rate flows with the market. The shorter the ARM the lower the initial rate. This method won't build equity as quick as a conventional loan, but the fact is that you aren't going to build much equity in the first 7 years anyway. The most important thing is that ARMs will lower your mortgage considerably in most cases. You can also consider doing an interest only loan which can drastically lower your payments. If you go this route, the return on the house is its appreciation in market value. You actually won't be paying any principle on the mortgage (interest only), but if your house appreciates enough you will build some equity.

Last piece of advice: Keep it in perspective. You probably arent buying a house to get rich. At minimum you want to recoup most if not all or more of the money you would otherwise be sinking into rent. In other words, even if the market hits the fan and you don't break even on the home, that doesn't mean you necessarily lost money. Example: You buy a home for 100k, you sell it for 97k. Are you 3k in the hole? Yes. Did you still come out better than paying rent for 4 years? YES. Four years of rent at $800 a month is 38,400. So you paid 3k in exchange for 38k. Not a bad deal. I realize that a large portion of your mortgage goes towards interest, but the point is still the same: you are going to get at least a portion of your "rent" money back. However, the good news is that your odds are slim at losing money even on an interest only loan. Hope this helps.
 
jbm44 said:
I am investigating the same thing. As far as I can tell, most people of to do what is called a kiddy condo loan, where someone needs to co-sign to back up the loan. It seems pretty easy to do if you have some willing to co-sign. I was wondering if you can use loan money for a down payment?

It is much easier if you do have a cosigner. You will get a better interest rate and your parents can deduct several thousand dollars of interest on their taxes. I dont think that fin aid gives you enough to use as a meaningful down payment. However, you can usually get 0 down loans.
 
good insights so far -

[a completely hypothetical situation]

say that you had about 20-25k saved up that could be used for a down payment, and say that you have people willing to co-sign if need be, assuming hypothetically that your only income for the next 4 years will be mostly loans - what should a person be aiming for by means of mortgage and loan options? sorry this process is very new to me. I know interest rates are low - when people "lock in" while the getting's good is that good for the entire length of the mortgage? or does it still fluctuate with the market? does everyone go for a 30 year loan even though you'll basically only pay off interest during med school? I'm in it simply to get my rent money back... should that alter my strategy? what's a general idea of how much I should be putting down percentage-wise for downpayment and how much will that affect monthly payments? ideally I could get them to be around my budgeted rent allotment... sorry this is long and rambling - I'm just confusedddddd.
 
ribbi_j said:
good insights so far -

[a completely hypothetical situation]

say that you had about 20-25k saved up that could be used for a down payment, and say that you have people willing to co-sign if need be, assuming hypothetically that your only income for the next 4 years will be mostly loans - what should a person be aiming for by means of mortgage and loan options? sorry this process is very new to me. I know interest rates are low - when people "lock in" while the getting's good is that good for the entire length of the mortgage? or does it still fluctuate with the market? does everyone go for a 30 year loan even though you'll basically only pay off interest during med school? I'm in it simply to get my rent money back... should that alter my strategy? what's a general idea of how much I should be putting down percentage-wise for downpayment and how much will that affect monthly payments? ideally I could get them to be around my budgeted rent allotment... sorry this is long and rambling - I'm just confusedddddd.


It really depends on how much the house is going to be. If you are looking at a 100000 house and you have a 25000 down payment a 15 year loan would be about 600 a month. You can increase or decrease the term depending on if you wanna pay more or less. You may also want to look into a 5 or 7 ARM
 
Thanks a lot for all of this information! I had heard so much negative stuff, I was beginning to think it would be impossible for me to buy, but now my hopes are renewed! 😍 😀

What areas are you all looking in?
 
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