Minority Students

[papi21]

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Do you honestly think minorities have an edge to get into dental school?

 

[219122]

No, and if so it's negligible at best.

 

[Lopyswine]

No, and if so it's negligible at best.

hahahahaha you're being funny right?

my buddy had a 2.9 and 18 DAT. He is mexican. He was accepted Dec 1st to EVERY school he applied.

You're a funny guy.

 

[americanpierg]

hahahahaha you're being funny right?

my buddy had a 2.9 and 18 DAT. He is mexican. He was accepted Dec 1st to EVERY school he applied.

You're a funny guy.

Glad you aren't even trying to make an effort at covering up your blatant attempt at a boldfaced lie. Since you're already paying for 5 schools, that would've meant he was accepted to all 5. Chances of someone with a 4.0 and a 22 getting accepted to ALL 5 schools they apply to? Probably less than 50%. Chances of a minority with way below average stats getting to ALL 5 schools they apply to? Probably 0.

Even the "perfect" student out there will get rejected from any school they apply to to which they don't fit the school's "mold". At least try to make your statement believable by saying he got, say...two, schools.

And yes, being a minority will give you an advantage, but only at certain schools, IE howard.

 

[billyjones]

No one will give you a straight answer to your question. Ultimately anyone here commenting is giving their opinion, though I am not sure what they are based on. I will tell you how things went for me (a minority) and you can decide if you *think* that I had a better chance of getting in, and by how much.

I didn’t graduate undergrad, had 92 credits of matriculation, 3.4 GPA overall, a 3.8 Science. I got a 19 on the dat overall, and a 21 on the PAT. However, I scored a 12 or 13 (I don’t remember which one) on the quantitative reasoning section.

A number of the schools I applied to have a minimum requirement for scores in each section of the dat, so they wouldn’t even consider mine because of the math section. Or so I thought. UoP being one of those schools, I called them and they told me that as posted on their website they wouldn’t consider an applicant if they didn’t get at least an 18 on each section.

However during the interview period of the year (Aug. to Jan/Feb) I received a call from UoP telling me that they wanted to schedule an interview with me but I hadn’t sent in my secondary application/fee yet. They went ahead and scheduled it there, but told me that I needed to send it in as soon as possible.

I also had an interview at Indiana. When I arrived for my interview I was pulled aside by the director of multicultural affairs and was told exactly what to say in my interview. For example I was told I should mention an interest in research, and that I should ask some questions about their PBL curriculum etc… The same woman that told me these things was on the admissions committee. Although she didn’t interview me that day, she did interview other people that day.

I also got interviews at a few different schools. However I was rejected almost immediately from NOVA, and VCU, and HOWARD. There were others that I was eventually rejected from, but I don’t remember them.

I am a second year dental student. I didn't end up going to either UoP or Indiana, however.

 

[219122]

hahahahaha you're being funny right?

my buddy had a 2.9 and 18 DAT. He is mexican. He was accepted Dec 1st to EVERY school he applied.

You're a funny guy.

Seriously, there was study done that i've seen a link to on these boards that said if you took out all minority applicants for dental school that it wouldn't drastically increase the number of acceptances for "majority" students. Exactly how many spots do you think every dental school gives minority students?? There are usually less than 10 in each school, if not less than five (other than the HBCUs). That's such a drop in the bucket that your chances are not significantly increased if the school was to accept no minority students at all. People act as if having some melanin makes adcoms pass over all of the writing in the application and go straight to "you're brown you're in" that's absurd.

 

[papi21]

No one will give you a straight answer to your question. Ultimately anyone here commenting is giving their opinion, though I am not sure what they are based on. I will tell you how things went for me (a minority) and you can decide if you *think* that I had a better chance of getting in, and by how much.

I didn’t graduate undergrad, had 92 credits of matriculation, 3.4 GPA overall, a 3.8 Science. I got a 19 on the dat overall, and a 21 on the PAT. However, I scored a 12 or 13 (I don’t remember which one) on the quantitative reasoning section.

A number of the schools I applied to have a minimum requirement for scores in each section of the dat, so they wouldn’t even consider mine because of the math section. Or so I thought. UoP being one of those schools, I called them and they told me that as posted on their website they wouldn’t consider an applicant if they didn’t get at least an 18 on each section.

However during the interview period of the year (Aug. to Jan/Feb) I received a call from UoP telling me that they wanted to schedule an interview with me but I hadn’t sent in my secondary application/fee yet. They went ahead and scheduled it there, but told me that I needed to send it in as soon as possible.

I also had an interview at Indiana. When I arrived for my interview I was pulled aside by the director of multicultural affairs and was told exactly what to say in my interview. For example I was told I should mention an interest in research, and that I should ask some questions about their PBL curriculum etc… The same woman that told me these things was on the admissions committee. Although she didn’t interview me that day, she did interview other people that day.

I also got interviews at a few different schools. However I was rejected almost immediately from NOVA, and VCU, and HOWARD. There were others that I was eventually rejected from, but I don’t remember them.

I am a second year dental student. I didn't end up going to either UoP or Indiana, however.

Reply: So what school did you end up going to?

 

[TheWiredNerv]

Minorities are people too.

 

[Major Groove]

Well if there is an advantage I won't have it...

I'm a white male.


...oh, a funny thought I had yesterday. Did you ever realize how racist the Mario Bros. are?!

Mario and Luigi, dirty plumbers eating magical mushrooms all the time...

Didn't hear a peep out of the Italian community over that. Ever.

Now imagine for a moment the Jackson Bros, Tyrone and Tarell. They've both got afros and plenty of bling, and when approached by a threatening creature promptly pull out their deuce-deuce, held sideways, and pop a cap in his ass.

Then they break dance, grab their crotches and point at the sky.

...probably wouldn't be too "politically correct," no?

 

[onetoomany]

TheWireNerv, that's hilarious. Minorities are people too. I'm a minority but I have above average scores, so if i do get in sometime, i won't have that ominous thought that i got in just cuz im not white.

Unless i tied with someone else with high scores and got chosen because of that. eeeck. that would suck for that other person.

 

[Major Groove]

TheWireNerv, that's hilarious. Minorities are people too. I'm a minority but I have above average scores, so if i do get in sometime, i won't have that ominous thought that i got in just cuz im not white.

Unless i tied with someone else with high scores and got chosen because of that. eeeck. that would suck for that other person.

You know what?

If you get in because you're 1/10,000th Kiowa, then thank your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great...great grandparents for getting you some diversity points and pack your bags for Dental school!

🙂

 

[Lopyswine]

you guys,

I'm not joking about my friend.

he applied to UCSF, UCLA, UIC, NYU, BU, and USC. He was accepted to ALL schools but UIC on Dec 1st. He was accepted to UIC later after they did their out of state interviews.

So by saying "all on Dec 1st" I was exagerating, but not by much.

We went to the same school and had very similar grades. We were in the pre-professional club. After a meeting the advisor kept the predents back to talk to us for a while. He told me a I needed a Master's. Guess what, I did. I was denied that year and I needed to go and get my MS.

He told my friend that all he would have to do is put forth the effort to sign the application and he would be accepted. Guess what, he was. He is now almost finished at UC**, one of the best schools in the country.


Also the minority question isn't about minorities taking seats. Its more about an individuals chance at acceptance.

 

[DROCKINDAHOUSE]

im glad im hispanic for lots of reasons

 

[DrCAO]

So are afghans considered a minority? I'm asking because I personally have heard of more than a few afghans becoming dentists so I didn't know how represented we are. and FYI, I was talking to my dentist and he was like just pull your grade up and I'm sure VCU would love to have you because of you (pertaining to the fact that I'm afghan I assume) so I'm guessing there is an advantage.

 

[Lopyswine]

if its a box you can check on aadsas that isn't "white" or "asian" then yes, its a minority.

although primarily minorities are considered:

1) african americans
2) non-african black americans
3) hispanic/latinos
4) native americans

 

[doc3232]

I wonder if this thread will end up being closed...😀

 

[Quattro DMD]

The bottom line is that there are very few dental providers from the african-american, hispanic, and native american communities. And if you look at the statistics there is greater percentage of the white population receiving dental care (70%) as oppose to the other groups (51-57%). So if a school admits a a minority applicant over a white applicant its with the intention that he/she will go back and serve their community.

 

[Andrew324]

So if a school admits a a minority applicant over a white applicant its with the intention that he/she will go back and serve their community.

I dont know about that...

 

[Fiori]

I dont know about that...

Last year or so, I remeber learning that a significant percentage minority health care providers go back to serve "their communities".

Its strange, some act like minorities are taking over the health profession left and right. At the end of the day, you will most likey have extremely slim to none minorities in most healthcare schools. Do people really feel that threatened like they dont have a shot if they are not minority? Come on, lets be real...

 

[browncrack]