Montefiore

[nope80]

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Current/former residents or med students that have rotated through here, I would be interested to hear your thoughts about the program! I am deciding between ranking monte and another program (umdnj-rwj) number 1 and am just thoroughly confused.

The positive that goes for monte for my personal situation is the location. I am not from NYC though and am not familiar with just how crazy the hospitals are. I am from a large academic center, but we have tons of ancillary services and work with a largely middle class population. I'm afraid that monte will be a culture shock for me in terms of the nyc culture, the lack of ancillary services and apparently the enormous amount of work residents go through. I'd really appreciate someones opinion about this. What do you all think? Is this something that people adjust to relatively easily? How overworked are the residents really? I know residency is hard but i'm wondering how much harder, if at all, it would be at monte.

Do people feel well supported? Are the attendings willing to teach and mostly well mannered? Are residents mostly happy?

Also, how is living outside of subsidized housing? I know the bronx isn't the safest area and so I'm wondering how viable of an option it is to live outside hospital housing (its cheap but not very nice from what I saw)...

I really appreciate your help!! I'm so stuck and I think I just need to discuss it out with people that actually know...

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[nervousivy]

I didn't go there for MS, but talking to Einstein folks and residents that I know, it's a pretty rigorous program. One prelim who went there for MS told me flat out "They work really, really hard in IM," so take it for what it's worth. A few residents said that the anciliary staff is great and they don't do blood draws. HTH a little...

 

[gofor]

Was in a similar choice. RWJ -- ok clinical mix, board review which can be a plus if you put effort into it -- from inside info though -- leadership can be very political -- PD has favorites, ? leadership ability to make calls to get marginal score people into competitive specialties -- GI/Cards -- not automatically take own. The community hospital rotation is very easy and has some dedicated attendings. Actually more teaching at points there. Comprehensive cancer center + great oppurtinuties + plus take own for fellowship if you want to do that. Big Cons: Lots of privates (even in ICU -- but hear that's changing), small teams (one resident, one intern) so can be lots of work even as senior. Gotta be in at 7am even on electives for board review. Can trend osteopathic/carribbean historically (7+ yr ago), but MUCH less as of late.

Montefiore -- yes, you might work harder, but after caps, not sure who does. prob. greater reputation. feel that PD, specialty attendings have more stature. more constantly serious path. much closer to NYC. Consistently more Amorican med school. More "service" patients -- where learning, teaching is better.

Cons: huge, can get lost in crowd, might be tough to get competitive fellowship if like 10-12 people are also trying. heard they did have some wierd scheduling, but that's improved. unsure about fellowship loyalty.

The wisdom of a stranger can be strong here, but I know it's almost decision point, but I thought I'd add some here.....truly if your scores are good, RWJ won't hold you back. If not, go to Montefiore if you desire a competitive fellowship. If you desire a not so competitive fellowship, RWJ might be just as good.

It's really personal opinions too -- if you liked the residents, the look/feel of a certain place -- that might be more important also.