More often than not seronegative RA = FMS

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Arthritis Rheumatol. 2016 Sep 2. doi: 10.1002/art.39851. [Epub ahead of print]
Phenome-Wide Association Study of Rheumatoid Arthritis Subgroups Identifies Association between Seronegative Disease and Fibromyalgia.
Doss J1, Mo H2, Carroll RJ3, Crofford LJ4, Denny JC5.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
The differences between seronegative and seropositive rheumatoid arthritis (RA) have not been widely reported. We performed electronic health record (EHR)-based phenome-wide association studies (PheWAS) to identify disease associations in seropositive and seronegative RA.

METHODS:
A validated algorithm identified RA subjects from the de-identified EHR. Serotypes were determined by values of rheumatoid factor (RF) and anti-cyclic citrullinated peptide antibody (ACPA). We tested EHR-derived phenotypes using PheWAS comparing seropositive RA against seronegative RA, yielding disease associations. PheWAS was also performed on RF-positive versus RF-negative subjects and ACPA-positive versus ACPA-negative subjects. Following PheWAS, select phenotypes were then manually reviewed and fibromyalgia was specifically evaluated using a validated algorithm.

RESULTS:
There were 2199 individuals identified with RA and either RF or ACPA testing. Of these, 1382 (63%) were seropositive. Seronegative RA was associated with "Myalgia and Myositis" (odds ratio [OR] 2.1, P=3.7x10-10 ) and back pain. A manual record review showed 80% of Myalgia and Myositis codes were used for fibromyalgia, and follow-up with a specific EHR algorithm for fibromyalgia confirmed that seronegative RA was associated with fibromyalgia (OR=1.8, P=4.0x10-6 ). Seropositive RA was associated with Chronic Airway Obstruction (OR=2.2, P=1.4x10-4 ) and tobacco use (OR=2.2, P=7.0x10-4 ).

CONCLUSION:
This PheWAS in RA patients identifies a strong association between seronegativity and fibromyalgia. It also affirms relationships between seropositivity with chronic airway obstruction and seropositivity with tobacco use. These findings demonstrate the utility of the PheWAS approach to discover novel phenotype associations within different subgroups of a disease. This article is protected by copyright. All rights reserved.
 
So what's it saying? Seronegative RA was highly correlated with fibro?
 
So what's it saying? Seronegative RA was highly correlated with fibro?

That's a 'charitable' reading of the article. My assessment is more cynical. SNRA seen in
'pain clinic' is usually a pseudo-diagnosis for FMS or some other medically unexplained pain.
What PheWAS is going to show is that FMS, Migraine, cLBP, HA, EDS, SNRA co-occur
so frequently that they cannot be considered discrete diagnoses, but a spectrum pain
disorder: CS.

In CNP CS is the great masquerader:
Neurology: MS [1], Migraine [2,3]
Rheumatology: SNRA [4], Adult Dx'd EDS [5]
Gastroenterology: IBS [6]
Gyn/Uro: IC/CPP [7]
Pain/Spine: cLBP [8], cNP [9]

1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27581217
2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002510
3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25994041
4. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27589350
5. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26919608
6. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0157235
7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23272983
8. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24022710
9. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17349056
 
101N,
I think we all agree with you to an extent. Just we aren't as dogmatic about discogenic or lbp always being CS.
 
I guess its time to start buccal swabbing fibromyalgia patients and looking for SNP's. PCR/sequencing machines and lab applications are available at a point-of-care venue...a whole new age of personalized/precision pain medicine.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...enome-machine-will-change-health-care-forever

Gene. 2015 Jun 15;564(2):188-92. doi: 10.1016/j.gene.2015.03.051. Epub 2015 Mar 28.
Angiotensin converting enzyme and methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase gene variations in fibromyalgia syndrome.
Inanir A1, Yigit S2, Tekcan A3, Pinarli FA4, Inanir S5, Karakus N2.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
Fibromyalgia syndrome (FM) is a common disease characterized by generalized body pain, sensitivity in certain physical areas (sensitive points), lowered pain threshold, sleep disorder, and fatigue. The study aimed to determine the effects ACE I/D and MTHFR C677T gene polymorphisms in Turkish patients with FM and evaluate if there was an association with clinical features.

METHODS:
This study included 200 FM patients and 190 healthy controls recruited from the department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation at Gaziosmanpasa University in Tokat, Turkey. ACE I/D polymorphism genotypes were determined by using polymerase chain reaction (PCR) by specific primers. The MTHFR C677T mutation was analyzed by PCR-based restriction fragment length polymorphism (RFLP) methods.

RESULTS:
We found a statistically significant relation between ACE polymorphism and FM (p<0.001, OR: 1.71, 95% CI: 1.28-2.27). However, this was not the case for ACE polymorphism and the clinical characteristics of the disease. There was also no statistically significant relation between MTHFR C677T mutation and FMS (p>0.05, OR: 1.20, 95% CI: 0.82-1.78), but dry eye and feeling of stiffness which are among the clinical characteristics of FMS were significantly related with MTHFR C677T mutation (p<0.05).

CONCLUSION:
Our findings showed that there are associations of ACE I/D polymorphism with susceptibility of a person for development of fibromyalgia syndrome. Also, it is determined an association between MTHFR C677T polymorphism and feeling of stiffness and dry eye which are among the clinical characteristics of FM. Our study is the first report of ACE I/D and MTHFR C677T polymorphisms in fibromyalgia syndrome.

Copyright © 2015 Elsevier B.V. All rights reserved.

KEYWORDS:
ACE I/D; Fibromyalgia syndrome; MTHFR C677T
 
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101N,
I think we all agree with you to an extent. Just we aren't as dogmatic about discogenic or lbp always being CS.

I don't believe it always is either. LBP's prevalence can't be denied. It is
the most prevalent pain condition on earth and it clearly increases with
age. That's not CS, it's part of the human condition.

But disabling low back pain in working-aged adults, i.e. discogenic pain,
for which disability & heroic medical measures - discography/fusion - are
considered. That's CS.
 
Therein lies the issue. Not all axial low back pain is discogenic. Purpose of discography is to rule the disc in or out as a pain generator.

Not all discogenic low back pain is amenable to surgery.

Lumping all axial low back pain into one catch-all category is disingenuous, and leads to GIGO studies.
 
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