Most ButtHurt Specialty???

[DrGoon]

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We've all seen threads posted by premeds and med students asking for the specialty superlatives: "Best lifestyle?", "most income?", "worst hours?", "easiest residency?".

But I've yet to see any one ask which specialty is the most butt hurt.

Butt hurt: An inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. Characterized by strong feelings of shame. Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor."

So what do you think? Which specialty is consistently the most butthurt?

 

[sella.turcica]

We've all seen threads posted by premeds and med students asking for the specialty superlatives: "Best lifestyle?", "most income?", "worst hours?", "easiest residency?".

But I've yet to see any one ask which specialty is the most butt hurt.

Butt hurt: An inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. Characterized by strong feelings of shame. Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor."

So what do you think? Which specialty is consistently the most butthurt?

Vascular surgery. Hands down.

 

[deleted103644]

Colorectal surgery. (By definition.)

 

[Dro133]

OB and gen surg. My residents on those rotations always seemed butthurt about something (probably having to spend 80+ hours/week in the hospital is my guess).

 

[DrGoon]

solid options. All have to deal with very different kinds of ****.

 

[PickleRickelus]

From the standpoint of the ER, the ones who usually get butthurt about consulting in the middle of the night when they're on call are the general surgeons. I mean, who knew you have to take call when you're on call amirite??

I did see a neurosurgery resident throw a hissy fit about coming in but I can't really blame him since his wife was going into labor that day and the on call guy was MIA so he had to pick up his partner's slack.

 

[DrGoon]

Based on my rotations it was a toss up between FM and OBGYN. The FM residents were most salty bunch I've seen, but the attendings were pretty chill.

OBGYN on the otherhand was butthurt all the way from the newest interns to the department chair.

Those FM residents were just insufferable.

 

[PickleRickelus]

Based on my rotations it was a toss up between FM and OBGYN. The FM residents were most salty bunch I've seen, but the attendings were pretty chill.

OBGYN on the otherhand was butthurt all the way from the newest interns to the department chair.

Those FM residents were just insufferable.

Dang why do you think that is? At the hospital where I worked, the FM residents were always very chill and friendly.

 

[DrGoon]

Not sure. the attendings were always really cool but the residents were just the worst.

 

[FindMeOnTheLinks]

OB easily

 

[PathoTurnUp1865]

All of the ob residents and attendings were the most chill out of any specialty I’ve rotated with and that’s at two different residencies. That’s a little shocking lol

 

[CherryRedDracul]

All of the ob residents and attendings were the most chill out of any specialty I’ve rotated with and that’s at two different residencies. That’s a little shocking lol

They were the worst at my med school and at the site I did my med student rotation at. The attendings were fine.

Funny thing is that they seem pretty friendly and personable where I'm currently doing my residency.

 

[Goro]

How about proctology?

 

[afib123]

Ob gyn. No idea why they were so sassy and rude. I work a lot with the neurosurgery department through research and I have never seen them be this rude. Still have to my gen surg rotation.

 

[atomi]

The majority of FM docs I encountered in Med school and residency CONSTANTLY moaned about how little money they made and had a serious chip on their shoulders. Not all, but I would say at least 50% made a comment about money at one point.

 

[solitarius]

Any field with high proportions of social justice warriors or uppity priviledged white liberals.

Therefore, ALL of MEDICINE.

 

[PathoTurnUp1865]

Any field with high proportions of social justice warriors or uppity priviledged white liberals.

Therefore, ALL of MEDICINE.

Everywhere outside the Midwest maybe lol
Anytime I’m around residents/attendings here they’re always talking bad about libs lol

 

[raiderette]

On SDN, OB definitely.

 

[RNtoMD87]

Everywhere outside the Midwest maybe lol
Anytime I’m around residents/attendings here they’re always talking bad about libs lol

This is one reason I love surgeons. They tend to be more grounded and down to earth in my opinion. Not pie in the sky

 

[nimbus]

Everywhere outside the Midwest maybe lol
Anytime I’m around residents/attendings here they’re always talking bad about libs lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-google/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ff9689ea9892

Grew up there. You can keep the Midwest.

 

[RNtoMD87]

Eh how does searching for the N-word equal most racist? I bet plenty of younger people of all races search it trying to understand how it even became a "bad word". Sure many of them are even black.

Example of poorly guided research.

Many of my black coworkers are travel nurses who work strikes. Several have said they felt much more prejudice in areas such as Minnesota, where people couldn't believe they were nurses because they were black. They assumed that they had to be CNAs.

54% of my city (Baton Rouge) is Black, where 39% are white. From my personal experience you find more racism in areas where those stereotypes aren't challenged through personal experience- I would expect racism to be higher in areas where races don't come in contact with the opposite race so often.

 

[nimbus]

Eh how does searching for the N-word equal most racist? I bet plenty of younger people of all races search it trying to understand how it even became a "bad word". Sure many of them are even black.

Example of poorly guided research.

Many of my black coworkers are travel nurses who work strikes. Several have said they felt much more prejudice in areas such as Minnesota, where people couldn't believe they were nurses because they were black. They assumed that they had to be CNAs.

54% of my city (Baton Rouge) is Black, where 39% are white. From my personal experience you find more racism in areas where those stereotypes aren't challenged through personal experience- I would expect racism to be higher in areas where races don't come in contact with the opposite race so often.

The areas with high rates of N word search also have higher than expected mortality for blacks.


Association between an Internet-Based Measure of Area Racism and Black Mortality

 

[RNtoMD87]

The areas with high rates of N word search also have higher than expected mortality for blacks.


Association between an Internet-Based Measure of Area Racism and Black Mortality

Correlation does not equal causation, and I don’t know how increased mortality even suggests racism.

 

[RNtoMD87]

not sure where this thread is going. are yall saying underrepresented minorities are the most butthurt group of physicians? they definitely have more movements promoting more racial acceptance movements... black excellence comes to mind. if white excellence were propagated we would here cries of racism and bigotry

I don't know how you pulled that from our conversation. The discussion was on which specialties were the most butthurt (I don't understand how that makes sense in itself), but Nimbus stated he didn't care for the Midwest because he felt like it was backward and racist, and I argued that his study that he shared wasn't well formulated.

 

[PathoTurnUp1865]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-google/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ff9689ea9892

Grew up there. You can keep the Midwest.

That looks to me to be the south, not the Midwest. But good try?
Looks like the northeast too. Looks to me like everywhere, but the west coast and Midwest.
Like someone else posted, wtf? That has nothing to do with the original post. Get out of here

 

[CherryRedDracul]

Any field with high proportions of social justice warriors or uppity priviledged white liberals.

Therefore, ALL of MEDICINE.

So that should mean surgeons are more likely to be excluded from that group. Surgical specialties tend to have more conservative people.

 

[Raney Schauer]

How about proctology?

Procto changed its name to colorectal surgery a while back. The "Cosmo Kramer, Proctologist" episode of Seinfeld (Season 6, Episode 20 "The Fusilli Jerry") wherin the DMV gives Kramer a personalized plate the reads ASSMAN, which he immediately uses to park in doctor's spots, particularly at the (long presumed to be Roosevelt Field) mall. Nassau county cops let him slide when he tells them he's a proctologist. After that, the voard got together and decided to make some changes. More medical-sounding name is more medical.

 

[deleted645092]

Medical students who complain about their school emphasizing primary care at every step of our education yet consciously went to a school that has some variation of “training primary care physicians for underserved areas” in their mission statement.

Specifically the students who never had any intention of going into a primary care specialty.

 

[NickNaylor]

At my medical school, it was the OB/GYN service by far - specifically the residents on L&D. Which is fairly understandable - that's a demanding and busy service.

I'm at a different institution now, and the surgery residents are the most unpleasant. I wouldn't call them "butthurt" - they just seem very busy and have very little patience for much of anything.

 

[libertyyne]

This might be controversial, but IMO it is always the specialties trying to convince people that they are more competitive then than they really are. Neurology , and Psych.

 

[atomi]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-google/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ff9689ea9892

Grew up there. You can keep the Midwest.

Besides being an idiotic “study” you interpreted it wrong. The picture clearly shows, and the article even states, that search efforts for n——r come from the northeast and the south, not the Midwest.

I’m happy to stay in the Midwest. Happy, honest, hardworking, welcoming people. You can keep the noxious, hate filled, smug, politically dysfunctional hellholes of whatever elite coastal city you live in.

Merry Christmas! 🙂

 

[atomi]

Eh how does searching for the N-word equal most racist? I bet plenty of younger people of all races search it trying to understand how it even became a "bad word". Sure many of them are even black.

Example of poorly guided research.

Many of my black coworkers are travel nurses who work strikes. Several have said they felt much more prejudice in areas such as Minnesota, where people couldn't believe they were nurses because they were black. They assumed that they had to be CNAs.

54% of my city (Baton Rouge) is Black, where 39% are white. From my personal experience you find more racism in areas where those stereotypes aren't challenged through personal experience- I would expect racism to be higher in areas where races don't come in contact with the opposite race so often.

Some of the worst racism in the country is found in Northern cities. Remember the race riots in Detroit? Coastal elites love to hate on the rednecks in flyover land, but these “rednecks” (ironically it’s totally fine for them to use this slur) can often be very accepting despite being less educated. Methinks they (northern urbanites) protest too much about who the racists are.

 

[libertyyne]

Some of the worst racism in the country is found in Northern cities. Remember the race riots in Detroit? Coastal elites love to hate on the rednecks in flyover land, but these “rednecks” (ironically it’s totally fine for them to use this slur) can often be very accepting despite being less educated. Methinks they (northern urbanites) protest too much about who the racists are.

Wait Detroit is a northern city?

 

[Psai]

Some of the worst racism in the country is found in Northern cities. Remember the race riots in Detroit? Coastal elites love to hate on the rednecks in flyover land, but these “rednecks” (ironically it’s totally fine for them to use this slur) can often be very accepting despite being less educated. Methinks they (northern urbanites) protest too much about who the racists are.

I like how you went from coastal elites to detroit. Then again, I'm always mentioning vancouver when I badmouth toronto.

 

[IMreshopeful]

Butthurt? Def OB/Gyn. Never met a bigger bunch of unhappier misanthropes.

But I think all doctors have their own degrees of butthurt

 

[nimbus]

That looks to me to be the south, not the Midwest. But good try?
Looks like the northeast too. Looks to me like everywhere, but the west coast and Midwest.
Like someone else posted, wtf? That has nothing to do with the original post. Get out of here

Besides being an idiotic “study” you interpreted it wrong. The picture clearly shows, and the article even states, that search efforts for n——r come from the northeast and the south, not the Midwest.

I’m happy to stay in the Midwest. Happy, honest, hardworking, welcoming people. You can keep the noxious, hate filled, smug, politically dysfunctional hellholes of whatever elite coastal city you live in.

Merry Christmas! 🙂

The study is interesting because it reveals how people behave when they believe nobody is watching and there are clear regional differences. We are being watched.

When I was growing up in Ohio it was considered the Midwest. Last I checked, it still is. Happily I no longer live there.

@PathoTurnUp1865 you’re the one who brought up “talking bad about libs lol” in the Midwest. That has nothing to do with the original post. No need to be so.......butthurt😉

Happy Christmas!

 

[Podstar]

Podiatry.

 

[libertyyne]

Podiatry.

Trick answer. They arent a specialty.

 

[deleted103644]

Colorectal surgery. (By definition.)

How about proctology?

 

[sovereign0]

OB-GYN in general.

At my school, peds is pretty butthurt too.

 

[Horners]

I was going to post something funny about every single speciality and how each one has it’s downsides. But I’ve done that already and I don’t wanna wear out my material.

I think the most butt hurt people are the ones who went into a career for reasons that aren’t their own.

- You have high scores and you love FM/Peds but you do something surgical bc you “ought to.”

- you prioritize work over important things like relationships and things that make you happy.

- the deadliest one: you seek approval from other people. This one is the guarantee for a truly miserable life. Do what you wanna do... unless what you wanna do is vascular surgery, then don’t do that.




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[GuzzyRon]

I think the most butt hurt people are the ones who went into a career for reasons that aren’t their own.

Bingo! The most intelligent answer here so far! Bottomline: "butthurt" physicians exist in EVERY single specialty!

Do what you wanna do... unless what you wanna do is vascular surgery, then don’t do that.

This one made me chuckle. But how so?

 

[Horners]

This one made me chuckle. But how so?

Vascular surgery has the highest average hours in medicine I believe and the nature of the work is very intense. You can really be called in at any time.

Residency is usually 5 years + 3 year fellowship. There are some 6 year integrated programs. And all of that training is very hard. It ain’t 40 hour work weeks.

But I am joking. We actually need a lot more vascular surgeons and the work they do for their patients and society at large is tremendously important. God bless them honestly


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[RNtoMD87]

Vascular surgery has the highest average hours in medicine I believe and the nature of the work is very intense. You can really be called in at any time.

Residency is usually 5 years + 3 year fellowship. There are some 6 year integrated programs. And all of that training is very hard. It ain’t 40 hour work weeks.

But I am joking. We actually need a lot more vascular surgeons and the work they do for their patients and society at large is tremendously important. God bless them honestly


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Probably not generally the most compliant patients either

 

[Treebeard]

OB tend to have chips on their shoulder in my experience.

 

[RNtoMD87]

OB tend to have chips on their shoulder in my experience.

Sound like OB nurses then lol

 

[fldoctorgirl]

Curious why everyone says OB as someone currently interested in OB lol. I've heard that OB can be toxic as far as coworkers go, but have never heard anything about them being butthurt more than other specialities

Regardless, would second podiatry even though they're not technically a specialty...I've never seen anyone as upset as podiatrists when they hear that the orthopedic surgeon got to do xyz over them, and they have to constantly reassure everyone that "they're the most qualified people to care for anything leg related"

 

[jurisburger]

Curious why everyone says OB as someone currently interested in OB lol. I've heard that OB can be toxic as far as coworkers go, but have never heard anything about them being butthurt more than other specialities

Regardless, would second podiatry even though they're not technically a specialty...I've never seen anyone as upset as podiatrists when they hear that the orthopedic surgeon got to do xyz over them, and they have to constantly reassure everyone that "they're the most qualified people to care for anything leg related"

You're probably a normal person and normal people exist in all specialties. But as a med student on rotations the OB residents as a whole were the most toxic/judgmental/annoying/gossipy group of people I've encountered in the hospital. And the OB nurses too.

 

[afib123]

You're probably a normal person and normal people exist in all specialties. But as a med student on rotations the OB residents as a whole were the most toxic/judgmental/annoying/gossipy group of people I've encountered in the hospital. And the OB nurses too.

Have to agree with this. I didn't encounter this, but the Sub-I who works in the resident's room said the residents gossip about the students, which I have not heard in other specialities.

 

[IMreshopeful]

Have to agree with this. I didn't encounter this, but the Sub-I who works in the resident's room said the residents gossip about the students, which I have not heard in other specialities.

I mean I’m not gonna lie and say as residents and as a fellow we don’t discuss which students are good and which aren’t. But we don’t gossip about personal stuff, which I have seen OB do for sure.

My OB experience could have been very good, but was marred specifically by residents who were unpleasant. I don’t know why it seems universally like this, but I suspect it’s a combination of stressful work environment (lots of work in a high risk field), lack of upper level support from senior residents and faculty, and the tendency of faculty to take out their frustrations on their residents. Obviously this can happen in any field (I’m looking at you, gen surg) but for some reason it was compounded with a lot of... let’s say, name calling and backbiting behind other folks backs.

I feel bad because I haven’t heard any OB residents weight in on this discussion yet!