My CS in exam in 2wks...need advice..Freakin out

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Hi

First of all, I need to know some mnemonics...because i think i'll do better using them and i need to know if it is mandatory to write the patient note in a sentence format rather than list format??

Thanks in advance guys
 
I don't think sentences are required.

I didn't use any fancy mnemonics, I just went through each encounter like any clinic visit. CC/HPI/PMH/FH/SH/ROS...I did not do anything special that I wouldn't in real life except fake empathy (because obviously the SP isn't in real distress).
 
thanks.....i'm a horrible actor...so that might be hard for me to show fake empathy
 
i'm a horrible actor...so that might be hard for me to show fake empathy

it helps that you are in an exam room though and that the person is sitting on the exam table in a pt gown. you slip into your clinic mode pretty quick and jump right into the H&P for their complaint of cough, weight loss, back pain, whatever. "oh you're going through a divorce right now mrs.SP? *pause* I'm sorry." It's such a game but at least the fact that you are in a familiar type of environment helps.

btw, from what i remember you can either write your note in sentences like a standard note or in a more bullet point kind of style. i think first aid CS has examples of both types of notes in there.

good luck!
 
Here are the best mnemonics. Learn them, love them, live them :laugh:

BTW, these are only a rough guide to trigger history questions, DO NOT DOGMATICALLY GO THRU EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM FOR EVERY CASE or it will take too much time and distract you from other relevant ROS questions. For example, in a knee pain case dont bother asking about stuff like urological complaints, prev hospitalizations or GI complaints because most likely its irrelevant and wasting time.

L: Location
I: Intensity (1-10)
Q: Quality (burning, aching, dull, sharp)
O: Onset (sudden, gradual)
R: Region/Radiation
A: Associated symptoms
A: Alleviating factors
A: Aggravating factors
F: Frequency (constant, intermittent)
P: Previous episodes
P: Precipitating events (trauma)
P: Progression (getting better/worse)
T: Treatments tried

P: PMH
A: Allergy
M: Meds
H: Previous hospitalizations
U: Urological ROS
G: GI ROS
S: Previous surgeries
F: Family history
O: OB/GYN history
S: Sleep ROS
S: History of STDs

T: Tobacco use
O: Occupation
A: Alcohol use
D: Drug use
D: Diet (for GI complaints always ask about fatty, spicey foods)
E: Exercise
S: Sexual history

Note that this by itself probalby only constitutes a little over half of the history points you can get. The rest is specific ROS questions depending on complaint. I would advise putting together a comprehensive ROS for each system and memorizing it. For example everybody remembers the common GI ROS stuff like nausea, vomiting, bloody stools, diarrhea, etc. But not many people remember stuff like tenesmus (which is on the First Aid checklist for a patinet complaining of bloody stools) so its worth spending some time re-learning some of the more esoteric ROS questiosn for each system.
 
thanks guys

but does anyone have any idea on the following questions???

how much neurological examination do we have to do with respect to loss of consciousness or any other neurological problems?

Any important questions about depression do we have to ask the patient, such as mnemonics??

are they any mnemonics or important questions we need to ask a parent in a pediatric patient??

How do we use the phone if i get a patient phone call case??

Okay this might be wierd but suppose i get a female patient who has a large breasts and a cardiac exam is mandatory...how do i go about that without exposing her and doing a complete exam?
 
thanks guys

but does anyone have any idea on the following questions???

how much neurological examination do we have to do with respect to loss of consciousness or any other neurological problems?

Any important questions about depression do we have to ask the patient, such as mnemonics??

are they any mnemonics or important questions we need to ask a parent in a pediatric patient??

How do we use the phone if i get a patient phone call case??

Okay this might be wierd but suppose i get a female patient who has a large breasts and a cardiac exam is mandatory...how do i go about that without exposing her and doing a complete exam?

First, one text I read wisely advised, "suspend disbelief." Once you see the patients it will feel just like a regular clinic encounter.

Two, once you pick a mnemonic or two, stick with it. It will keep your nervousness at bay. You asked about depression. The SIGECAPS mnemonic covers all that you would need. I CAGEd everyone that suggested they drink, even if it weren't to excess, because, first, alcoholics underestimate their drinking, and, two, it gives the examiner a chance to see what you know. In a true clinical setting, it would be more a judgment call, but this is a test situation, and you have to momentarily put yourself in the examiner's head.

What I have seen is that with the time constraints not too many fancy maneuvers can be performed. What you do then is put it as part of the workup. It indicates that you understand the need for certain tests and maneuvers, but you did not have the time to perform them.

For most of your above questions, the FA text covers just about any contingency. Including the issues you mention above. I, too, "freaked out" two weeks before my exam, and went out and got the FA text. Late in the game, admittedly, but well worth the price to pass this misery. It helped me a lot. [That's an unpaid endorsement. 🙂 ]

Pick a text (FA is by far the best, and I'm not ashamed to admit I worked over five texts), and stick with the plan. After rehearsing this test, ad nauseum, it was just another "practice session" when the real test arrived. I remember my first thoughts when I left the building were that there truly weren't any surprises. Not one case that I had was "out of the blue" that wasn't covered by at least one of the books I read.

If you have been following this board for a while, a lot of the suggestions are well thought out. It helped me immensely when I came up with my own plan for this miserable test. Just keep it in perspective, do your prep and be kind to the SPs.

You'll be fine,

Nu
 
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