My high school experience was VERY non-trad. Not sure if I should touch it...

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Hi SDN comrades,

I am working on my secondary essays, and every time there is a question about "diversity of your experiences" or "what is one personal challenge you overcame" I am completely torn. I was sent to some very extreme programs as an adolescent and I am not sure whether to touch it at all. Here's what happened...

I struggled with depression and OCD ever since I was little, but when I was 14, it got bad. I didn't know how to cope with the OCD symptoms, and after trying everything from cutting to SSRIs, I began smoking pot.

It wasn't the pot so much as the social outlets it gave me access to. I was always a shy kid, and when I started smoking weed, I found I had an excuse to hang out with older "cool" kids. I felt like I had an identity. And, most of all, I didn't have panic attacks from certain sounds/sights/experiences that usually triggered me.

My parents were very against marijuana, and when they found a bong in my room, they called all my teachers (I was a freshman in high school) and told them...for no apparent reason. I rebelled. I started doing hallucinogens, rx pills, cough syrup, whatever. I just wanted to not be sober.

Eventually, after relapsing while in outpatient substance counseling, I was sent to a wilderness program in North Carolina. I had no idea what I was getting into. They stripped me naked, searched me, then handed me a bunch of scratchy orange clothes and told me to go to base camp. From that day until day 77, I woke up, hiked, set up camp, slept, packed up camp, and hiked again. No showers. The same food every day. No drugs. No electronics. No seeing cars, no contact with the outside world, no "future information" such as what time it was or where we were going. No knowing when we would get to leave. At first it was the most miserable thing I've ever experienced. It was so cold, we used to boil water to put in water bottles at the foot of our sleeping bags. In the morning, they would be ice. They took our shoes at night so we wouldn't run.

After I finished with the wilderness, I was sent to a therapeutic boarding school. They did some really intense, weird, bizarre, and frankly, psychologically abusive things there. the psychiatrist there was also known as the candy man, and he basically drugged everyone there with crazy **** they didn't need. I was put on antipsychotics, gained 25 lbs, and started sleeping in the middle of the day. It took me 3 months to get an appointment with him to discontinue it, and if I didn't take it every day, I would get put in suspension. TO THIS DAY, 5 years later, I wake up in cold sweats with my heart racing because I dream I'm there and no one believes I finished the program and I can't escape. It takes me half an hour or so to fully believe it was a dream. I'm not the only one with PTSD-like symptoms who went there. (We have a support group on FB and some of us are members of CAFETY-- community alliance for the ethical treatment of youth). oh, and the best part--no relationships whatsoever. no flirting with the opposite gender. no SITTING NEXT to the opposite gender without a pillow in between you. and no, this was not a religious institution, just a really ****ed up one.


this place is literally impossible to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it firsthand. the bottom line is, I went through a tremendous amount of internal and external struggles in high school, and it affected me for years after. I have my OCD/depression under control now. I'm in therapy and seeing a psychiatrist, and overall, things are great. I've grown up. Now I'm not sure how to frame this in a "diversity" essay. It's a huge part of who I am, but it's touchy as hell.

Sorry about the massive wall of text. If anyone made it through, do you have any thoughts?
 
Where's the part about "I'm totally better now and ready to start medical school"?

Personally I would not mention any if this.
 
Where's the part about "I'm totally better now and ready to start medical school"?
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it's the part where I rocked out the MCAT, finally started getting straight A's, and totally love my fulltime job as an ER tech
 
Maybe you could leave out the parts about psychological problems and drug use? That way you can still describe the experiences you had in these institutions, but vaguely describe your reasons for being there as social or disciplinary problems. I don't know how much that would take away from the story, but it is a touchy topic. I don't know, just a suggestion.
 
Oh my god man :wow: Glad to see you've gotten everything together! It's an interesting story for sure, but I don't know if I would mention it.....
 
You definitely have one of the more out-there stories I've read on this forum recently.

Most people on here will tell you to avoid mentioning mental illnesses. You have to remember that you want to be seen as a sound decision maker, and providing adcoms with information to the contrary doesn't strengthen that case, even if it was only in your past and actually helped instill those qualities. While I'm sure your story is entirely truthful regarding some of these events, you will find that many physicians will question your representation of the events and what you may not be disclosing too.
 
You definitely have one of the more out-there stories I've read on this forum recently.

Most people on here will tell you to avoid mentioning mental illnesses. You have to remember that you want to be seen as a sound decision maker, and providing adcoms with information to the contrary doesn't strengthen that case, even if it was only in your past and actually helped instill those qualities. While I'm sure your story is entirely truthful regarding some of these events, you will find that many physicians will question your representation of the events and what you may not be disclosing too.

I think you're right. It's tough, because it does make me really interested in psychiatry and addiction, but there's really no way to spin that in a positive light. As far as "being seen as a sound decision maker", it's true, but this frustrates me so much. My disorders were a lot different beasts as a child and adolescent than they are now, by virtue of the fact that my brain chemistry has changed. OCD isn't really much of an issue, nor is depression as long as I'm taking my meds. Even if I were to omit the depression part, I know that there would probably still be stigma about my capability as a physician with OCD, and this just angers me. So what if I don't like tying one of my shoes without evening it out by tying the other?! No one takes into account the severity, just the label of the diagnosis. It's the same with the psychiatrists who prescribe it...but at least the medical community acknowledges that the DSM IV and V tend to allow for gross overdiagnoses...
 
Congrats, man. I applied to medical school as a young person in recovery and have some experience with this sort of thing on applications/during interviews. Send me a pm if you want to talk 🙂
 
I think you might find more stigma regarding the addiction issues than you would with depression or even OCD. I would be particularly wary of openly discussing this. If you do eventually decide to pursue psychiatry residency, maybe you can revisit the issue with residency apps/interviews and may even come to a different conclusion! Good luck with your applications, I hope it goes well for you.
 
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