My list of Schools

[brodaiga]

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tell me what you think...

first a little background

GPA:

Transferred to state University (majority of hours)-4.0
-3.7 overall (with highly ranked private)

MCAT, still waiting (took in APR), hoping 30-32

Tons of ECs and good LORS

GA residence


Applying to many schools because of a mistake in private univ (Emory) resulting in honors violation and an F, hence the lowered GPA.

Here are the schools:

University of Alabama
Keck University of Souther Cali
Stanford
UCSF
George Washington Univ.
Georgetown
Howard
University of FL
MCG
Rosalink Franklin Chicago Med School
Loyola
Northwestern
Rush
Pritzker
University of Ill med school
Tulane
Boston University
Harvard
University of Massachussets
Wayne State
Saint Louis University
UMDJ
Albany Medical College
Albert Einstein
Mount Sinai
NYU
NYMC
University of Rochester
Medical College of Ohio
Ohio State Univ
University of Cincinnati
Drexel
Jefferson
Temple
Univ of Pittsburgh
Brown
University of Tennessee
UVM
Viginia Commonwealth Univ
MCW

 

[UseUrHeadFred]

Are you applying to EVERY SCHOOL that accepts a significant number of OOS?

I question the wisdom of applying to so many...

 

[Brickhouse]

What, no Caribbean schools?

 

[brodaiga]

lol, i like it here in USA, I'm applying to 40 schools cause of that honors violation...

 

[UseUrHeadFred]

That hurts. I'd consider taking off the Ivy Leagues. They're likely to auto-reject you with that.

Also, take off any schools that are in locations you already know you wouldn't want to go to, since you are likely to turn down any acceptance anyway (even if it's your ONLY acceptance).

Bear in mind, interviewing takes lots of time and money. Trim some fat.

For what my advice is worth, anyway. I can tell you, for sure, that the Ivy Leagues have plenty of near-4.0 applicants with very similar experiences that don't have honors violations.

 

[jlee9531]

its a good mix of schools....with the percieved high middle and lower tier schools etc...
you have to safeguard yourself against every possibility...and who knows how schools will react to the probation stuff.

sure there will be some people that will say it was nothing...but thats just a case by case thing.

good luck. hope you did well on your mcat to give the schools you applied to give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to the violation.

 

[brodaiga]

That hurts. I'd consider taking off the Ivy Leagues. They're likely to auto-reject you with that.

Also, take off any schools that are in locations you already know you wouldn't want to go to, since you are likely to turn down any acceptance anyway (even if it's your ONLY acceptance).

Bear in mind, interviewing takes lots of time and money. Trim some fat.

For what my advice is worth, anyway. I can tell you, for sure, that the Ivy Leagues have plenty of near-4.0 applicants with very similar experiences that don't have honors violations.

Thanks for the advice, i only have 2-3 Ivys, so i'll play the gambling game. I understand interviewing takes time and money, but applying again, paying all those fees again, and losing a year is not worth it, wish me luck!

 

[UseUrHeadFred]

I have a question: Why ask for approval if you're already determined to apply to the above list?

Secondly, I'm interested in your success. If you're starting an mdapplicants.com file, would you PM it to me? I'll be starting one soon myself.

Good luck!

 

[brodaiga]

the list is not set in stone, I was asking if somebody had any suggestions for schools that I would have a good chance of getting in that are not in the list, i.e. that I didn't miss anything?

Yeah, i'll post this on md applicants

I just read somewhere that Stanford is 20% out of state and more than half of those are ethnic minorities (which I'm not), I'm considering switching this to Upenn, should I?

 

[pbehzad]

Broadaiga-
Congrats on the stellars grades from both schools especially on Emory. I am at Emory now, and was wondering if you could tell me what prof accused you of honor code violation? You can pm me if you want. I know Emory is really strict on honor violations.

Take care and good luck.

 

[ornis4]

tell me what you think...

first a little background

GPA:

Transferred to state University (majority of hours)-4.0
-3.7 overall (with highly ranked private)

MCAT, still waiting (took in APR), hoping 30-32

Tons of ECs and good LORS

GA residence


Applying to many schools because of a mistake in private univ (Emory) resulting in honors violation and an F, hence the lowered GPA.

Here are the schools:

University of Alabama
Keck University of Souther Cali
Stanford
UCSF
George Washington Univ.
Georgetown
Howard
University of FL
MCG
Rosalink Franklin Chicago Med School
Loyola
Northwestern
Rush
Pritzker
University of Ill med school
Tulane
Boston University
Harvard
University of Massachussets
Wayne State
Saint Louis University
UMDJ
Albany Medical College
Albert Einstein
Mount Sinai
NYU
NYMC
University of Rochester
Medical College of Ohio
Ohio State Univ
University of Cincinnati
Drexel
Jefferson
Temple
Univ of Pittsburgh
Brown
University of Tennessee
UVM
Viginia Commonwealth Univ
MCW

I was under the impression that UMass didn't let in any out of staters....otherwise, that is an impressive list you have there.

 

[meanderson]

tell me what you think...

first a little background

GPA:

Transferred to state University (majority of hours)-4.0
-3.7 overall (with highly ranked private)

MCAT, still waiting (took in APR), hoping 30-32

Tons of ECs and good LORS

GA residence


take out U of Fl, U of tennessee. Those two schools give such heavy state pref. that they either accept 0 oos students or an insignificant number. If your mcat score comes out to less than a 10 on ANY section of the mcat take out UAB as well. There may be a few other schools on their that you should take out for similar reasons(Wayne state?), but people more familar with those schools would be in a better position to respond to how OOS friendly they are.

I'd add mercer. After all, there are two real "state" schools in georgia and mercer is one of them, albeit a small one. If you really want to increase your odds, it wouldn't be a great idea to pass up on 60 slots that are reserved only for residents of your state. I could understand not adding mercer if you were only looking to go to top end schools, but then why add schools like Howard and Wayne State and temple and Albany? They won't get you anywhere that any other US allopathic school will have the potential to.

Yeah you have some real reaches(Stanford, ucsf, etc), but it's always cool to have a few.

Looks like a good nice list overall. I might consider adding EVMS since you added MCV. Also no emory which is strange because they do give slight preferance to georgia residents. Is that because of the honors violation thing?

 

[Cerberus]

You have a more or less zero chance of getting into UTENN as an out of state resident.

 

[TheRussian]

As it has been said, you really need to look at the stats for these schools to see which schools accept significant number of out of state applicants. You definetely have to take UMass of the list since they have a residency requirement of like 5 years. I don't know about the other state schools but I would guess that most of them don't really take out of state applicants. You have to ask yourself if it is worth putting in the time and money in applying to these schools since the chance of getting accepted are so low. My pre-med advisor told me that there is no point in applying to state schools outside your home state.

 

[fullefect1]

Did you go to high school in Mass, or are your parents still living there?

 

[TheRussian]

I just noticed that you had Brown on your list. I was under the impression that the only take MD/PhD students. The rest of the class is filled from the combined BS/MD program at Brown so there are no spots open for regular applicants. Even if that has changed this year, there won't be that many spots available. If you really want a Brown degree the only other option is to apply to Dartmouth and try to get into the Dartmouth-Brown program where you do the first 2 years at Dartmouth and the last two at Brown and you get a Brown degree. This program is pretty competitive though, only 15 students per year.

 

[Bones2008]

I agree with what everyone else has said about the state schools. You are applying to way to many out-of-state state schools. These are typically very difficult to get into if you're not a resident. Quite frankly, being an out-of-stater with an honor code violation will likely result in a whole bunch of rejections after they've cashed your checks.

 

[brodaiga]

I agree with what everyone else has said about the state schools. You are applying to way to many out-of-state state schools. These are typically very difficult to get into if you're not a resident. Quite frankly, being an out-of-stater with an honor code violation will likely result in a whole bunch of rejections after they've cashed your checks.

Thanks for the advice guys, but I really don't have much a of a choice as there are few in state schools in ga. I do not want to go to Mercer or morehouse because of the commitment to primary care in GA and Emory is out of the question, no thanks. When making the above list I did pay close attention to numbers and amount of out of state applicants accepted using the MSAR, but i have made some mistakes at 3 am. Let me make the following changes:

-I mistakenly wrote down UMass instead of Tufts
-UFl was supposed to Univesity of Miami
-I will delete Brown and add UConn
-Utenn changed to Univ of Maryland

Some people mentioned that my list had schools that didn't like out of staters, any other ones besides the ones mentioned? Or, other schools that favor them that I missed?

 

[UseUrHeadFred]

Let me clarify, you're saying you want to apply to EVERY SCHOOL that accepts a lot of OOS applicants?

Does this include Osteopathic schools?

 

[LP1CW]

I thought that Brown was also open to a few other schools like Bryn Mawr graduates. I could be wrong, don't know for sure.

 

[brodaiga]

Let me clarify, you're saying you want to apply to EVERY SCHOOL that accepts a lot of OOS applicants?

Does this include Osteopathic schools?

I don't want to have more than 40 schools, but basically, yes, to increase my chances, if there are that I missed, please let me know. I don't want to go DO or Carib, I think my numbers can get me in M.D. somewhere, just depends on how they see the violation (P.S. which was a dumb mistake my first semester)

 

[UseUrHeadFred]

I'd consider Creighton.

 

[meanderson]

Thanks for the advice guys, but I really don't have much a of a choice as there are few in state schools in ga. I do not want to go to Mercer or morehouse because of the commitment to primary care in GA ?

brodaiga, I pm'ed you.

 

[brodaiga]

brodaiga, I pm'ed you.

nothing in my box?

 

[pratik7]

consider applying to mercer ...i really liked it down there and the say they beat emory and mcg on board scores

 

[meanderson]

nothing in my box?

check it now 🙂

 

[meanderson]

consider applying to mercer ...i really liked it down there and the say they beat emory and mcg on board scores

They apparently did so one year. They have a really small class though, and there was actually some people who didn't get through the first two years that year, so the sample size was about 50 or less. I doubt you could select any 5 year period that Mercer's average step 1 is greater than Emory's. MCAT/USMLE correlations aren't super strong, but you're talking about some pretty big differences in gpa/mcat averages between mercer and emory. The bottom line I think is that your board scores wouldn't really be affected in any way whichever of the three you choose....it's all up to the student. If you bust your ass reviewing for step 1 you'll do very well.

I liked all three georgia schools I got into and it was a tough decision picking between them. I liked something about each of them. Ultimately picked mcg though.

 

[nkow]

I would definately consider mercer as well...and that's not just because i am a student there. If you are worried about the primary care issue, that is pretty much gone...the main committment is to train physicians for the state of GA. Other than that, you can pretty much do anything you want and it is evident in this year's match list which include all specialities including, ortho, optho, derm, radonc, and of course the primary care stuff like fp, med, gen surg, ob/gyn, peds...

I would definately focus on mcg and mercer...about the issue on board scores, i don't think there it's a clear cut relationship between mcat and boardscores...study hard and you can do well...and to respond to meanderson, there are definately people who don't make it through the first two years...but this is so with many schools. Mercer's curriculum is different because it is pbl and some people that come just never really get used to it. But in the end, whether pbl, organ based, traditional...etc...find a place you can study and enjoy for the next four years...otherwise it could be miserable...

 

[brodaiga]

I would definately consider mercer as well...and that's not just because i am a student there. If you are worried about the primary care issue, that is pretty much gone...the main committment is to train physicians for the state of GA. Other than that, you can pretty much do anything you want and it is evident in this year's match list which include all specialities including, ortho, optho, derm, radonc, and of course the primary care stuff like fp, med, gen surg, ob/gyn, peds...

I would definately focus on mcg and mercer...about the issue on board scores, i don't think there it's a clear cut relationship between mcat and boardscores...study hard and you can do well...and to respond to meanderson, there are definately people who don't make it through the first two years...but this is so with many schools. Mercer's curriculum is different because it is pbl and some people that come just never really get used to it. But in the end, whether pbl, organ based, traditional...etc...find a place you can study and enjoy for the next four years...otherwise it could be miserable...

thanks for the advice, i'll add mercer, someone misinformed me about their curriculum. yes, I believe in going to a place where you will be happy, hopefully, I will have schools to choose from. If I had my choice it would be a big city, nyc, or chicago, but i'll take whatever I can get.

 

[VCMM414]

consider applying to mercer ...i really liked it down there and the say they beat emory and mcg on board scores

Emory typically averages in the mid 230s on the boards (has been for the last 3-4 years?). This is pretty much on par with other top-scoring schools in the country (eg. Vandy, Mayo, Penn, etc.); in fact, I don't think any school even averages in the 240s, at least on a consistent basis.

So, perhaps Mercer did do better than Emory/MCG one year, but they would probably need to consistently score 233-236 (or more) to outperform their fellow Ga schools on a yearly basis.