NBDE Rankings List

[ClassicalGuitar]

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For those of you who interviewed, hopefully the schools you went to told you their rankings on the NDBE 1 & 2. I am trying to put a list together. Could you all please post those rankings in this thread? Thank you all! 😉

 

[in her drawer]

Are you serious? You might as well put every school in the number one slot.

 

[Manyak222]

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[t2thDr14]

I think it's a bit odd that schools tend to tell you the passing rates of the Boards, but not the average scores... unless you specifically ask for those.

UOP said their average scores on Boards I are 87%.

 

[burton117]

I heard that UIC is #5 and SIU is #2 in terms of percentages of first-time board passing rates...

 

[t2thDr14]

I heard from my dad who's a dentist that about two years ago two-thirds of USC's class didn't pass the Boards II. When I asked USC about this, they didn't deny it. 😛

 

[PennPB]

I think it's a bit odd that schools tend to tell you the passing rates of the Boards, but not the average scores... unless you specifically ask for those.

UOP said their average scores on Boards I are 87%.

That's higher than I thought it would be. A few years ago, while my friend was class president at UoP, they were floating scores in the low, low 80's.

 

[dddsmack]

For what it is worth (absolutely nothing), Brownstein told me that UNLV was second to San Antonio and that both were in the mid 90's for Part 1 last year.

I agree though, this thread will amount to a load of steaming shat when it is all compiled.

I like the idea though. 👍

 

[cuneatus2]

For what it is worth (absolutely nothing), Brownstein told me that UNLV was second to San Antonio and that both were in the mid 90's for Part 1 last year.

I agree though, this thread will amount to a load of steaming shat when it is all compiled.

I like the idea though. 👍

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[kappa505]

UNLV told me the same thing during my interview.

 

[PDizzle]

The UNLV mid 90's might be their PASS rate, not their avg score.

UCSF ranked 4th in the nation last year in avg board scores, part I. I don't know the actual number though.

Remember that how you do is only minimally, if even at all, affected by the school you attend. It's a standardized test and you have to study for it all on your own. Even if you go to [ insert the worst dental school IYO], you can still rock out a mid 90 and specialize anywhere in the country.

 

[shamrock2006]

The UNLV mid 90's might be their PASS rate, not their avg score.

UCSF ranked 4th in the nation last year in avg board scores, part I. I don't know the actual number though.

Remember that how you do is only minimally, if even at all, affected by the school you attend. It's a standardized test and you have to study for it all on your own. Even if you go to [ insert the worst dental school IYO], you can still rock out a mid 90 and specialize anywhere in the country.

EXACTLY

 

[armorshell]

Remember that how you do is only minimally, if even at all, affected by the school you attend. It's a standardized test and you have to study for it all on your own. Even if you go to [ insert the worst dental school IYO], you can still rock out a mid 90 and specialize anywhere in the country.

I always thought it was funny how people completely ignore the selection bias inherent in average board score and specialization rate statistics. Schools with high average board scores attract students who want high board scores. Those students bust their hump to get said scores (which they would have done anywhere), and the cycle continues.

 

[GiveMeDMD]

The UNLV mid 90's might be their PASS rate, not their avg score.

UCSF ranked 4th in the nation last year in avg board scores, part I. I don't know the actual number though.

Remember that how you do is only minimally, if even at all, affected by the school you attend. It's a standardized test and you have to study for it all on your own. Even if you go to [ insert the worst dental school IYO], you can still rock out a mid 90 and specialize anywhere in the country.

I agree with this, however the schools curriculum does play a role in preparing you for the boards. Some schools do prepare students better than others. For example, Michigan's board scores fluctuated a little after they restructured the curriculum from the traditional single course didactics to the current "Integrated Medical Sciences" courses. I've even heard of some schools using "mock" NDBE I tests as their Final exams.

 

[shabu2]

The Part I scores on avg for the top ten schools are only seperated by a few points (+/- 3). Schools that consistently score high AVERAGES are Harvard, Uconn, Columbia, UCSF. There are plenty of individuals who kick a** on part I, but not many schools can boast 90+ Part I averages. BTW we have one of the lowest Part II avg in the nation too😉

 

[Drill2Fill]

The UNLV mid 90's might be their PASS rate, not their avg score.

UCSF ranked 4th in the nation last year in avg board scores, part I. I don't know the actual number though.

Remember that how you do is only minimally, if even at all, affected by the school you attend. It's a standardized test and you have to study for it all on your own. Even if you go to [ insert the worst dental school IYO], you can still rock out a mid 90 and specialize anywhere in the country.

I thought the first 2 years of dental school was to prepare you that test? I would think that the school would have something to do with how well you do.

 

[bruinpredent]

The Part I scores on avg for the top ten schools are only seperated by a few points (+/- 3). Schools that consistently score high AVERAGES are Harvard, Uconn, Columbia, UCSF. There are plenty of individuals who kick a** on part I, but not many schools can boast 90+ Part I averages. BTW we have one of the lowest Part II avg in the nation too😉

add UCLA to that list...evidently their average is a 93

 

[shabu2]

add UCLA to that list...evidently their average is a 93

NO WAY,

Harvard is around 93-94, UCLA is a great school, but not top 5. They have a large class, and less than a third specialize. Get your facts straight!

 

[nate28]

Is there a source you guys can share that shows each schools average?

 

[Ramathorn]

NO WAY,

Harvard is around 93-94, UCLA is a great school, but not top 5. They have a large class, and less than a third specialize. Get your facts straight!

I'm pretty sure that UCLA has ranked #2 on part I for the past two years - their scores average around 92-93.

 

[armorshell]

The way schools talk about their Part 1 scores I'm pretty sure every school I interviewed at was "in the Top 5"

In my opinion a good portion of how a school does on the boards is self-selection: People who want good board scores go to schools that get good board scores, thus perpetuating the cycle. It's based on you more then the school you go to.

 

[EyeAmCommi]

NO WAY,

Harvard is around 93-94, UCLA is a great school, but not top 5. They have a large class, and less than a third specialize. Get your facts straight!

Lol, actually, the 93 is quite right. I would have thought it would be higher actually.
Remember, 20/22 went to ortho last year from UCLA (however, all 22 matched!). And what scores do orthos need? like 95+?

 

[ItsGavinC]

NO WAY,

Harvard is around 93-94, UCLA is a great school, but not top 5. They have a large class, and less than a third specialize. Get your facts straight!

What does specializing have to do with anything? Many people with high scores don't specialize. Some people with lower scores specialize.

 

[ItsGavinC]

For what it is worth (absolutely nothing), Brownstein told me that UNLV was second to San Antonio and that both were in the mid 90's for Part 1 last year.

I agree though, this thread will amount to a load of steaming shat when it is all compiled.

I like the idea though. 👍

I'm sure they are talking about passing rate, not average scores.

 

[Blitzdt]

lol...it's funny how everyone is advertising his own dental school.

 

[bruinpredent]

NO WAY,

Harvard is around 93-94, UCLA is a great school, but not top 5. They have a large class, and less than a third specialize. Get your facts straight!

with all due respect, over 3/4's of last year's class went into speciality, not including GPR/AEGD. and yes, their average board scores are through the roof

considering i've consulted current students as well as some of the dental professors, i'm quite certain that i've indeed gotten my facts straight

 

[armorshell]

with all due respect, over 3/4's of last year's class went into speciality, not including GPR/AEGD. and yes, their average board scores are through the roof

considering i've consulted current students as well as some of the dental professors, i'm quite certain that i've indeed gotten my facts straight

You get 'im vanilla bear!

 

[Envision]

NO WAY,

Harvard is around 93-94, UCLA is a great school, but not top 5. They have a large class, and less than a third specialize. Get your facts straight!

Yet you've failed to provide any counter evidence. if only you'd take your own advice 🙄.

 

[EyeAmCommi]

What does specializing have to do with anything? Many people with high scores don't specialize. Some people with lower scores specialize.

True!

 

[EyeAmCommi]

lol...it's funny how everyone is advertising his own dental school.

Students from UCLA know more about UCLA than any predent. So, if you're going to take advice about UCLA, I'd hope you'd take it from someone who attends it.

Also, when people start lying about this and that and how they know this and that about UCLA, then I am obliged to correct them.

TTFN, tata for now!

 

[H2OPOLODENT]

I'm pretty sure that UCLA has ranked #2 on part I for the past two years - their scores average around 92-93.

This is what I was told at my UCLA interview (#2 boards). Also, 50% specialize and 25% go to GPR/AEGD--that is--75% total going into postdoc.

UoP -- Dr. Yarborough said that while UoP is one of the very top in terms of passing rate, they are "in the middle third" of dental schools in terms of actual scores.

 

[armorshell]

UoP -- Dr. Yarborough said that while UoP is one of the very top in terms of passing rate, they are "in the middle third" of dental schools in terms of actual scores.

He told my interview group the average score was 86%

 

[H2OPOLODENT]

He told my interview group the average score was 86%

Hmmm, it sure would have sounded a lot better if he'd said that to my interview group!

 

[armorshell]

Hmmm, it sure would have sounded a lot better if he'd said that to my interview group!

I think it's fairly impressive actually, considering it's an above average score and the curriculum has no time scheduled for Part 1 study.👍

 

[H2OPOLODENT]

I think it's fairly impressive actually, considering it's an above average score and the curriculum has no time scheduled for Part 1 study.👍

No, I absolutely agree with you, that is an impressive score and is at the very least a testament to the quality of Pacific students (and probably the faculty, too). "86%" is a much better selling point than "middle third," that's my point.

Not sure if I'm impressed with the fact that Pacific has no time scheduled to study for the one test that is probably THE most important metric for students interested in postgraduate study, however.

 

[armorshell]

True, but I also think there is probably some self-selection in that number too. Pacific attracts a lot of students interested in primary care, ergo they don't work their faces off studying for Part 1.

 

[shabu2]

Yet you've failed to provide any counter evidence. if only you'd take your own advice 🙄.

OK, SORRY predents. My info comes from the Dean of my dental school, as I sit in monthly meetings with him. I am not pumping my school up because we actually dropped from #4 to about #8. 🙁 We usually are in the top #3-#5. 🙂 Gavin makes a good point that people do not have to specialize with top board scores, but most do. I don't want to start an fight of d-school pride, but I wanted to point out that a class average of 93 is extremely high and scoring a 93 is difficult while putting you at the top 5% of candidates. Any senior dental student will agree that an average class size of 100 with and AVERAGE PART I score of 93 is 😕 . For you future UCLA peeps, that is a hard act to follow! We here at Columbia barely cracked 90 as a class Good luck. 😉