Need current CVS floater or FT pharmacist opinion

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Can someone give me some idea of life as a CVS pharmaicst? There has been positions opening in my area at CVS floater and FT. My friends from out of state and some in NY is ok with CVS though they recommend the float position rather than staying at a store. I also read some pretty horrendous comments about CVS from other sites. So I wanted some opinions on here. Thanks!
 
I work for Walgreens, but from what I have heard from others and on this forum, you should turn back and run the other way as fast as possible. CVS seems to be notorious for exploitation of its employees, including pharmacists. As a WAGS floater, I can tell you why other pharmacists advise you to float and not become staff at any store- as a floater, you don't have any metrics to worry about. You have no obligations at any store except for doing your job. You're essentially a substitute teacher. This is not to stay that you will slack off; you want to do a good job to the best of your ability, but you won't sacrifice your sanity in doing so, especially if it's not your store.

Floaters don't worry about how many flu shots they administer, how many scripts they fill, or whatever other BS metric the company mandates. Just do your shift, help with any problem that you have the ability to resolve, and leave anything you couldn't resolve in the hands of the staff pharmacists. Then bounce. Floating is awesome, but it does have disadvantages. And that's a story for another day.

Conclusion: AVOID CVS like the bubonic plague. Enjoy the many advantages of floating.
 
Thanks for the reply. The only issue is that where I'm at the market is saturated and I'm a new grad. The only option so far is CVS that has an opening. I'm not sure if its a good idea to apply and work till I find something else or avoid it all together
 
Depends on who your boss is. An evil pharmacy supervisor can ruin the job quality.

Mine is alright, so my job ain't bad.

Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing you have a CVS store and not a floater? its just that all I hear is negative remarks and it makes me wonder if anyone likes working there or is just there for the money
 
Depends on who your boss is. An evil pharmacy supervisor can ruin the job quality.

Mine is alright, so my job ain't bad.

Exactly. Everyone who complains about cvs falls into 2 categories:

1. They're lazy or extremely slow, so they get yelled at and get stressed out. Personally, I can ACCURATELY get scripts out in 2 minutes, but I know cvs RPhs that can't verify a goddamn clonazepam in 15 minutes. It literally takes them 20 mins to do so. They get written up/chastised for messing up workflow, and then they complain and bitch.

2. They have a supervisor who hates them. I personally have a great supervisor who I have a good relationship with, as well as my DM. The key to this is to build a good relationship with them. Your life will become exponentially easier. Remember, the supervisor is just doing his/her job. If you make their job easier by getting numbers up, they will love you for it.
 
Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing you have a CVS store and not a floater? its just that all I hear is negative remarks and it makes me wonder if anyone likes working there or is just there for the money

Got a regular store...boss seems to like me...don't mind work that much to be honest.

Interview with the supervisor and get a feel for them.
 
Exactly. Everyone who complains about cvs falls into 2 categories:

1. They're lazy or extremely slow, so they get yelled at and get stressed out. Personally, I can ACCURATELY get scripts out in 2 minutes, but I know cvs RPhs that can't verify a goddamn clonazepam in 15 minutes. It literally takes them 20 mins to do so. They get written up/chastised for messing up workflow, and then they complain and bitch.

2. They have a supervisor who hates them. I personally have a great supervisor who I have a good relationship with, as well as my DM. The key to this is to build a good relationship with them. Your life will become exponentially easier. Remember, the supervisor is just doing his/her job. If you make their job easier by getting numbers up, they will love you for it.

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It is all about the supervisors. I haven't had a bad one and I like my job.

To take point 2 to a further point, it is insanely hard to get a supervisor to hate you. Most RPH don't hear from their supervisors. You have to get a lot of customer complaints, negative feedback from colleagues, and bad numbers for them to focus on you. That is if you haven't reach out to them to find a solution. (IE. hey boss, I am having trouble doing x, any suggestions? what do you think are my barriers).
 
Alot of these positions posted on the CVS job portal are not for real.
 
I work for CVS in MN for 5 years, before moving on to a grocery store chain. In my opinion, avoid CVS at all costs, if possible. I can say after working for them for 5 years that I should have left WAAAAY sooner! I disagree with what pharmd201389 said about the 2 categories of people that hate CVS. I had a great relationship with my DM and I was an efficient pharmacist, however this also puts you at a disadvantage because they just keep throwing more stuff towards you. In choosing between a float position and a store position, that one is tough. In my market, they treat floats like crap: they only got their schedules 1 week ahead of time, had all the night shifts, were told every other weekend but were working EVERY weekend or part of every weekend, and were floating to stores way outside of their districts. It is true that being a float carries a lot less responsibility though, so I guess it ultimately comes down to choosing between less conveniences and less responsibility. Good luck with your decision! If you have any questions, let me know!
 
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It is all about the supervisors. I haven't had a bad one and I like my job.

To take point 2 to a further point, it is insanely hard to get a supervisor to hate you. Most RPH don't hear from their supervisors. You have to get a lot of customer complaints, negative feedback from colleagues, and bad numbers for them to focus on you. That is if you haven't reach out to them to find a solution. (IE. hey boss, I am having trouble doing x, any suggestions? what do you think are my barriers).

Really? I thought the one in the area where we worked was a bit of a dbag? There was a pretty good supervisor from 2006-2010, then he got shifted into a different district and we got some younger guy who I thought was a major dbag.
 
Exactly. Everyone who complains about cvs falls into 2 categories:

1. They're lazy or extremely slow, so they get yelled at and get stressed out. Personally, I can ACCURATELY get scripts out in 2 minutes, but I know cvs RPhs that can't verify a goddamn clonazepam in 15 minutes. It literally takes them 20 mins to do so. They get written up/chastised for messing up workflow, and then they complain and bitch.

2. They have a supervisor who hates them. I personally have a great supervisor who I have a good relationship with, as well as my DM. The key to this is to build a good relationship with them. Your life will become exponentially easier. Remember, the supervisor is just doing his/her job. If you make their job easier by getting numbers up, they will love you for it.

This is totally false. The CVS Dm's are getting younger and dumber. It's easier for CVS to control them. They are a very cutthroat company to work for. If you have a good relationship with your DM they will dump more work on you. I've seen plenty of quality pharmacists leave that company due to their overemphasis on meaningless metrics. The metrics are only there to create turnover. Tenured experienced pharmacists are leaving in droves.
 
This is totally false. The CVS Dm's are getting younger and dumber. It's easier for CVS to control them. They are a very cutthroat company to work for. If you have a good relationship with your DM they will dump more work on you. I've seen plenty of quality pharmacists leave that company due to their overemphasis on meaningless metrics. The metrics are only there to create turnover. Tenured experienced pharmacists are leaving in droves.

Exactly. The CVS Rx Sup's are getting YOUNGER and DUMBER. Kids just out of pharmacy school who have never worked in a real pharmacy are becoming Rx Sup's after 2 to 3 years. These kids can't even tell you what the cost of generic Seroquel is vs. what is an AWP price. They only know what a PCQ number is, what an SOS number is, what a KPM number is, how many flu shots can you give, and how to do an annual inventory and base it on AWP's. I can't respect them. They are kids, not bosses, but kids.
 
Exactly. The CVS Rx Sup's are getting YOUNGER and DUMBER. Kids just out of pharmacy school who have never worked in a real pharmacy are becoming Rx Sup's after 2 to 3 years. These kids can't even tell you what the cost of generic Seroquel is vs. what is an AWP price. They only know what a PCQ number is, what an SOS number is, what a KPM number is, how many flu shots can you give, and how to do an annual inventory and base it on AWP's. I can't respect them. They are kids, not bosses, but kids.

My boss is in his 50s and has 30 years of experience in retail pharmacy. :shrug:
 
You know what, there are A LOT of GREAT bosses. But they leave eventually. Then you hope you are blessed and get another great boss. It's hit or miss.
 
its a job. i dont mind it. Im a new grad, just moved to FL and my technicians suck. If they were good my job would be a lot better
 
Exactly. The CVS Rx Sup's are getting YOUNGER and DUMBER. Kids just out of pharmacy school who have never worked in a real pharmacy are becoming Rx Sup's after 2 to 3 years. These kids can't even tell you what the cost of generic Seroquel is vs. what is an AWP price. They only know what a PCQ number is, what an SOS number is, what a KPM number is, how many flu shots can you give, and how to do an annual inventory and base it on AWP's. I can't respect them. They are kids, not bosses, but kids.

Most supervisors that I worked with have > 10 years of experience. A lot of these supervisors are well trained. The problem is that sometimes we confuse the PIC role with the Sup role.

Sups... can know what generic Seroquel cost but how does that help them manage 20 stores....? That is the job of a PIC. While I would be impressed if a they know how much each drug cost, I would have to question if they know how to prioritize their time...

Sups to my knowledge have to know deal with customer complaints. I have headaches dealing with CC from one store. Imagine 20... every single day. They have to analyze and find root causes from patterns. There is a whole other side including risk management. When there is a mistake, or a CC, how do they manage it? How do you know if a RPH is making too many mistakes?

They are responsible for > 100 million$ of inventory. How do you get 20 stores to use amber vials first before stock bottles? Some districts were losing half a mil a year in lost inventory. What about internal theft or drug losses? We file the reports but they have to follow up on it.

Then there is pay roll. How do you control 20 store's payroll...? RPh payrolls? Staffing issues... if somebody quits, it is not that easy to find another RPH even with the shortages. It takes a lot to develop pharmacists for a right store (busy vs slow, customer clientele such as large Spanish or Russian populations), because they cant pay 100k for a pharmacist on the side waiting for somebody to quit. Talent development...?

Obviously there are other duties including compliances (training, government regulation like strongpak, PSE, blue and green bins), company projects like feed back to improve programs, SOS visits, and engaging your team.

I have a lot of respect for my Sups. They are Sups because they did well with more than one store. They have to be number one in the district they are at, and at another store. That takes a lot... anyone who runs an excellent store know that the only way you can do it is by doing it the right way. They are also rated on how engaging they are, if they are critical thinkers, and their leadership skills.

They also too get a lot of **** from corporate... and they have less stability because they are influencing 20 stores versus a PIC who influences 1.
 
Really? I thought the one in the area where we worked was a bit of a dbag? There was a pretty good supervisor from 2006-2010, then he got shifted into a different district and we got some younger guy who I thought was a major dbag.

The older guy who got shifted into a different district was good. He had lots of experience. The younger guy is good also but not as developed. Why did you think he was a major dbag?

My opinion is that if you had met the older guy, you would have hated him more because you have a problem with authority. The older sup would set clear expectations from day 1 and hold you to them. He would support you but he would be strict.

I am not sure of how much experience you had with them as an intern but a lot of times, they develop interns based on what your PIC tells them.
 
Most supervisors that I worked with have > 10 years of experience. A lot of these supervisors are well trained. The problem is that sometimes we confuse the PIC role with the Sup role.

Sups... can know what generic Seroquel cost but how does that help them manage 20 stores....? That is the job of a PIC. While I would be impressed if a they know how much each drug cost, I would have to question if they know how to prioritize their time...

Sups to my knowledge have to know deal with customer complaints. I have headaches dealing with CC from one store. Imagine 20... every single day. They have to analyze and find root causes from patterns. There is a whole other side including risk management. When there is a mistake, or a CC, how do they manage it? How do you know if a RPH is making too many mistakes?

They are responsible for > 100 million$ of inventory. How do you get 20 stores to use amber vials first before stock bottles? Some districts were losing half a mil a year in lost inventory. What about internal theft or drug losses? We file the reports but they have to follow up on it.

Then there is pay roll. How do you control 20 store's payroll...? RPh payrolls? Staffing issues... if somebody quits, it is not that easy to find another RPH even with the shortages. It takes a lot to develop pharmacists for a right store (busy vs slow, customer clientele such as large Spanish or Russian populations), because they cant pay 100k for a pharmacist on the side waiting for somebody to quit. Talent development...?

Obviously there are other duties including compliances (training, government regulation like strongpak, PSE, blue and green bins), company projects like feed back to improve programs, SOS visits, and engaging your team.

I have a lot of respect for my Sups. They are Sups because they did well with more than one store. They have to be number one in the district they are at, and at another store. That takes a lot... anyone who runs an excellent store know that the only way you can do it is by doing it the right way. They are also rated on how engaging they are, if they are critical thinkers, and their leadership skills.

They also too get a lot of **** from corporate... and they have less stability because they are influencing 20 stores versus a PIC who influences 1.

I think you are in a CVS bubble. If you go to their national meetings you see a large percentage of the rx sups are young. It's not a family or life oriented position. The only ones generally wanting to sacrifice 70+hrs per week are the young ones who they pump up as the next best thing. The reason they are taking the position is because no one else wants it anymore.

The management capabilities you describe the sups having are not advanced. CVS has an answer to all these problems. You just write everyone up. You blame the employees. It's never CVS's fault.
 
The older guy who got shifted into a different district was good. He had lots of experience. The younger guy is good also but not as developed. Why did you think he was a major dbag?

My opinion is that if you had met the older guy, you would have hated him more because you have a problem with authority. The older sup would set clear expectations from day 1 and hold you to them. He would support you but he would be strict.

I am not sure of how much experience you had with them as an intern but a lot of times, they develop interns based on what your PIC tells them.

Nope, I had met the older guy. He came into our store a lot. Even the negative encounter I had with him went pretty well. (He dropped by to check on us on a Sunday and there I am with an untucked shirt and jeans and no tie.) He just told me next time just dress up because you never know who you're gonna meet (hot chick, DOP, someone else who owns a pharmacy, etc).

The younger dude started asking me about GPA and stuff like that one time. Not to mention calling people in for meetings on our ****ing days off. He had a negative vibe to him, like he was always saying "I dunno man, I don't think there are gonna be many spots given out to your class." This was around the time they started getting really crazy about the metrics. I thought the Triple S was the only major thing to worry about and then it just went insane. This dude gave me a 1 hour lecture because I had like a 10% CVS card scan rate (I only scan it if the customer asked me to.)
 
I think you are in a CVS bubble. If you go to their national meetings you see a large percentage of the rx sups are young. It's not a family or life oriented position. The only ones generally wanting to sacrifice 70+hrs per week are the young ones who they pump up as the next best thing. The reason they are taking the position is because no one else wants it anymore.

The management capabilities you describe the sups having are not advanced. CVS has an answer to all these problems. You just write everyone up. You blame the employees. It's never CVS's fault.

Exactly
 
Hi. I just got hired on as a FT Staff Pharmacist at CVS and will be attending orientation shortly. I've filled out the forms and such online, but I'm curious as to what takes place during the 7 hour orientation...
 
Hi. I just got hired on as a FT Staff Pharmacist at CVS and will be attending orientation shortly. I've filled out the forms and such online, but I'm curious as to what takes place during the 7 hour orientation...

They teach you how to wear diapers, take messages within 15 minutes without having to quit checking, and answer phone calls while checking people out through drive through.

Actually I have no idea. My orientation was a short video and being given keys/alarm codes.

Congratulations on getting a staff position!
 
Hey guys, this is probably a stupid question but how does one go about finding a floater position?
 
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