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[vctmof8]

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I just realized today that since I did not register with NRMP and I did not go to an allopathic school that now I have no access to the list of unfilled positions tomorrow!!! XXXXXXXX

 

[Winged Scapula]

The scramble or lists of unfilled positions are for the benefit of those who registered with the NRMP but did not match.

After the scramble, the lists will be available, to those such as yourself who did not register with NRMP, on their website.

 

[vctmof8]

It is a little late, but now I know.

My story.
I finished an FP residency two years ago, I have been doing urgent care since, but am not real happy with it. After long discussions and lots thinking I decided I need to do something else. I decided a bit late to start the application process, and after getting ERAS completed and LORs in I only applied to a couple programs and I did not get any interviews. So obvously I didn't see any since in doing the match.......Now I see I clearly should have registered anyway, just to get the list of unfilled positions.

 

[Winged Scapula]

That's fine and I wasn't meaning to make you feel bad or to tell you something you already knew.

My message was meant as a notice that SDN does not endorse sharing the information prior to the end of the scramble, but that I am happy to post it here after the scramble is over if others provide the lists.

Best of luck to you.

 

[vctmof8]

Just to clarify, I don't think I am doing anything unethical. I think NRMP does not release the list to everyone because they don't want people that matched to try to scramble for "better" positions. That is certainly not my case. I simply didn't understand the procedure. I would gladly pay the registration fee, but they wouldn't allow it (it was worth a try). XXXXXXXX. XXXXXXXXX Sorry Winged, I understand your position, but I feel there is a slight flaw in the system that is preventing me from getting the list tomorrow and I need to do what I can to get a fair shot at the open positions. Thanks

 

[hippiedoc13]

Actually, you are trying to pay someone to violate the NRMP regulations on the match & the scramble...so yes, that is unethical. The fact that the NRMP only provides the list to unmatched applicants who registered is not a 'slight flaw in the system'--it is fair. Otherwise, why should any of us bother to properly apply through ERAS and pay for the NRMP match, if others can just bypass all that in a free-for-all? And if you finished a family medicine residency, I have a hard time believing that you 'simply didn't understand the procedure.' Presumably you actually have experience with the 'procedure' from when you applied to your first residency. As someone who is not scrambling myself, but has wonderful classmates who are unfortunate enough to have to scramble tomorrow (trying to get into their FIRST residency), after they followed the system the 'right' way, I think it's pretty sketchy for people to try and do what you're doing.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Sorry I agree with hippiedoc.

The rules and procedures are clearly stated on the NRMP website and thousands of people manage to figure it out every year. Those with the most trouble seem to be FMGs with ESL and lack of familiarity with the US system. This doesn't seem to apply to you.

Therefore, it does seem unethical to me as well as it is a clear violation of the NRMP and as I said before, I'll ask that you not ask people here to violate those provisions and provide you an unfair advantage.

 

[Blade28]

I think NRMP does not release the list to everyone because they don't want people that matched to try to scramble for "better" positions.

I think most people who have matched won't try to violate their contracts by scrambling.