Neurology residency odds

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Does anyone know how many people they cut out of the applicant pool to get to interviews? (i.e. I heard if there are 300 applicants, 40 of those will make it to interviews, on average). Does that sound about right? Then, once you make it to interview, I assume everyone is not on an 'even playing field' (your board scores, research, grades etc..still matter relative to other candidates). Is that the case?
As always, I appreciate the feedback. I'd love to hear from some residents or even attendings who really know the answer to the first question above!
 
Does anyone know how many people they cut out of the applicant pool to get to interviews? (i.e. I heard if there are 300 applicants, 40 of those will make it to interviews, on average). Does that sound about right? Then, once you make it to interview, I assume everyone is not on an 'even playing field' (your board scores, research, grades etc..still matter relative to other candidates). Is that the case?
As always, I appreciate the feedback. I'd love to hear from some residents or even attendings who really know the answer to the first question above!

I wonder the same...
 
Well, there are only so many interview spots, so regardless of the number of applicants, the interviews are relatively fixed. Because of this, our average board scores per interview class varies a bit from year to year (based on the number of applicants in the pool). If you get tons of applicants, then you interview only the cream of the crop. If you don't, then there are going to be some interviewees that on a different year might not have gotten a spot.

While some people are clearly the rock-stars of an interview class, most people who get an interview are, in fact, more or less on an even playing field. We wouldn't waste time interviewing you if we wouldn't consider taking you. But I do suppose you're right, some people need to shine a little brighter on interviews than others in order to boost their stock. During the interview, we are probably trying to sell our program harder than you are trying to sell yourself. This is not dermatology -- we can't act like jerks and still expect you to rank us highly. Mostly what we are looking for is whether or not you seem to fit in with us, in terms of your comportment, goals, attitude, etc. These goals are often shockingly different from program to program, so I strongly urge you to look at the residents and see whether or not they seem like people you identify with.

While I know med students like to think of everything in terms of board scores, I strongly caution you to avoid this mentality. There are always a few bozos with a 270 on step I who think they're going to breeze into the program of their choice. It hurts them. Then there are others with a 210 who think "I'll never get in here" and act like a shrinking violet on interview day. It hurts them too. Everyone brings a different skill-set to the table, and you should be confident in yours. No good program wants only PhDs, or only people with 260+ board scores, or 5+ publications, etc. If they're interviewing you, then they probably want someone like...you! So relax, focus on whether or not YOU like the program, and don't say anything to hurt your cause. The rest will sort itself out.
 
Well, there are only so many interview spots, so regardless of the number of applicants, the interviews are relatively fixed. Because of this, our average board scores per interview class varies a bit from year to year (based on the number of applicants in the pool). If you get tons of applicants, then you interview only the cream of the crop. If you don't, then there are going to be some interviewees that on a different year might not have gotten a spot.

While some people are clearly the rock-stars of an interview class, most people who get an interview are, in fact, more or less on an even playing field. We wouldn't waste time interviewing you if we wouldn't consider taking you. But I do suppose you're right, some people need to shine a little brighter on interviews than others in order to boost their stock. During the interview, we are probably trying to sell our program harder than you are trying to sell yourself. This is not dermatology -- we can't act like jerks and still expect you to rank us highly. Mostly what we are looking for is whether or not you seem to fit in with us, in terms of your comportment, goals, attitude, etc. These goals are often shockingly different from program to program, so I strongly urge you to look at the residents and see whether or not they seem like people you identify with.

While I know med students like to think of everything in terms of board scores, I strongly caution you to avoid this mentality. There are always a few bozos with a 270 on step I who think they're going to breeze into the program of their choice. It hurts them. Then there are others with a 210 who think "I'll never get in here" and act like a shrinking violet on interview day. It hurts them too. Everyone brings a different skill-set to the table, and you should be confident in yours. No good program wants only PhDs, or only people with 260+ board scores, or 5+ publications, etc. If they're interviewing you, then they probably want someone like...you! So relax, focus on whether or not YOU like the program, and don't say anything to hurt your cause. The rest will sort itself out.

Thanks typhoonegotiator. Your wisdom is appreciated as always. Specifically though, the tough part is getting an interview right? I mean, they don't just take half of the applicants for interviews and then interview alot of people for a spot in residency..? I had heard that they usually pare it down to about 40 applicants for interviews, meaning 10% or so would make the program...does that sound about right? (just trying to see what my odds are for actually making it in now that I've got some interviews..)
 
I obviously cannot speak for programs other than the one I have been through, but yes, getting the interview is the hard part. That doesn't mean that if you get an interview you're done, but it does mean that you are in some degree of demand. If you have multiple interviews, you should be able to match without much difficulty, provided that you aren't a weirdo.

There are a lot of weirdos out there.
 
I guess I should limit my discussions on Magic: The Gathering on interview day.
 
There are a lot of weirdos out there.


You know I always hear this, but always have a hard time believing it (not that I'm doubting you). You'd think people would watch their p's and q's! 😕
 
I obviously cannot speak for programs other than the one I have been through, but yes, getting the interview is the hard part. That doesn't mean that if you get an interview you're done, but it does mean that you are in some degree of demand. If you have multiple interviews, you should be able to match without much difficulty, provided that you aren't a weirdo.

There are a lot of weirdos out there.

I'm a pretty weird dude lol. But not a 'weirdo'. At least that's what my mommy tells me. 😀
 
You know I always hear this, but always have a hard time believing it (not that I'm doubting you). You'd think people would watch their p's and q's! 😕

Well, people who are truly weird tend to not appreciate that they are weird. It is a failure of introspection. And trust me, the strangeness you see at the local supermarket is certainly recapitulated in the medical field -- getting an MD doesn't magically wash it away. Also, someone who might be seen as weird at one program might be bread-and-butter at another program.

Hence, even the affectually unusual tend to find their place somewhere...
 
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