Never forget where you came from

[Anicetus]

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We all know that resident that keeps us around just to keep us around when we could leave and be more productive.

We also know that resident that realizes we can be doing something more valuable with our time and tells those magical words, "you can go".

Unfortunately, we also have met that resident who just s***s on medical students because.... Well.. They may have forgotten what it used to feel like in our shoes.

Let's start a list of vows we can try to keep as we continue through medical school so that when we become residents we can reassess those vows or remind ourselves that we used to be in the shoes of medical students.


For me, I vow to honestly not judge a medical student for yawning because they may have had to stay up gunning through uworld or some bs assignment that clerkships make you complete.

 

[bashwell]

We all know that resident that keeps us around just to keep us around when we could leave and be more productive.

We also know that resident that realizes we can be doing something more valuable with our time and tells those magical words, "you can go".

Unfortunately, we also have met that resident who just s***s on medical students because.... Well.. They may have forgotten what it used to feel like in our shoes.

Let's start a list of vows we can try to keep as we continue through medical school so that when we become residents we can reassess those vows or remind ourselves that we used to be in the shoes of medical students.


For me, I vow to honestly not judge a medical student for yawning because they may have had to stay up gunning through uworld or some bs assignment that clerkships make you complete.

I vow not to vow because I'm horrible at keeping them.

 

[Psai]

We all know that resident that keeps us around just to keep us around when we could leave and be more productive.

We also know that resident that realizes we can be doing something more valuable with our time and tells those magical words, "you can go".

Unfortunately, we also have met that resident who just s***s on medical students because.... Well.. They may have forgotten what it used to feel like in our shoes.

Let's start a list of vows we can try to keep as we continue through medical school so that when we become residents we can reassess those vows or remind ourselves that we used to be in the shoes of medical students.


For me, I vow to honestly not judge a medical student for yawning because they may have had to stay up gunning through uworld or some bs assignment that clerkships make you complete.

What's your name? Not planning on keeping you around longer or anything

By the way, you seem tired. You want to go get yourself some coffee? You can go home or you can stay a bit to watch this case, it's totally up to you and I won't judge you either way I promise.

 

[failedatlife]

I vow as an attending (if I match with my step score) to never judge a medical student by their Step score. Unfortunately I will be in the minority.

 

[deleted245139]

you REALLY have to get off that... ^
Already an attending and keeping my vow to always stay engaged in education... medical students to residents. Love it.

 

[Rekt]

you REALLY have to get off that... ^
Already an attending and keeping my vow to always stay engaged in education... medical students to residents. Love it.

He's just trolling by now. No one stays salty that long.

And OP, they're just passing it down. They had to suffer, we get to too.

 

[tymont12]

Every post I see him make now is about his step score. We get it: you failed at life, failedatlife.

 

[Anicetus]

I vow as an attending (if I match with my step score) to never judge a medical student by their Step score. Unfortunately I will be in the minority.

Have you considered trying to just go all out and get a 280 on step 2? Literally stop everything else you're doing and go hard core every day living and breathing step 2?

 

[Mr Roboto]

Have you considered trying to just go all out and get a 280 on step 2? Literally stop everything else you're doing and go hard core every day living and breathing step 2?

If he'd done that for Step 1 he wouldn't be in this predicament.

 

[tiedyeddog]

I vow to teach at least something daily.

 

[sazerac]

I vow that when I am a resident on applicant dinners, when the waitress first asks anybody if they want a drink, I will loudly say "I'm having a (beer / wine / cocktail / whatever)" to eliminate the awkward alcohol dance.

 

[madchemist89]

We all know that resident that keeps us around just to keep us around when we could leave and be more productive.

We also know that resident that realizes we can be doing something more valuable with our time and tells those magical words, "you can go".

Unfortunately, we also have met that resident who just s***s on medical students because.... Well.. They may have forgotten what it used to feel like in our shoes.

Let's start a list of vows we can try to keep as we continue through medical school so that when we become residents we can reassess those vows or remind ourselves that we used to be in the shoes of medical students.


For me, I vow to honestly not judge a medical student for yawning because they may have had to stay up gunning through uworld or some bs assignment that clerkships make you complete.

I remember being a med student, and I treat med students as I would have liked to been treated as a med stud. Sometimes, when I'm slammed with admits and I've got like 5 discharges, I can't teach or keep track of the med student because I'm just trying to stay afloat. Medical students need to understand that we can't always be there to teach or let you go home early because we are swamped. I might even accidentally forget that they are there.

 

[ortnakas]

I vow as an attending (if I match with my step score) to never judge a medical student by their Step score. Unfortunately I will be in the minority.

Zero attendings and zero residents on rotations have asked me about my boards scores. They matter again when it comes to your residency application, but they don't define your entire medical school experience. Quit letting them define yours. You passed, you didn't fail at life, and you need to move on.

I vow to teach at least something daily.

THIS. I understand slow days. And I understand sometimes you're swamped. I get I'm not the most important part of your day by a long shot. But teach me SOMETHING. Even if it's just thinking out loud while you're putting in routine orders, that'll let me get something more out of being there than sitting at home reading Case Files.

 

[njtrimed]

Honest question: why are med students so intent on leaving? I'm new to this as a first year, but I've worked in the field for a long time. In my experience, the med students who show up all the time are the ones residents (and nurses, and all of us) love to have around, because they're willing to do the scut work or just be there to chat. They also seem to be the ones who understand what's going on instead, rather than looking like pre-meds who are shadowing. I have a life and family and also understand the weight of shelf scores, but isn't it more important to make it clear that you're really committed to what you're doing?

If you tell me that it doesn't make a difference since your evaluations will be similar to your less "committed" classmates, and that going home and studying is an infinitely better use of your time, I get it (and will note it for the future!). And in all fairness, my experience is in surgery. But there were med students who answered a LOT of questions that surgical interns and residents could not. They didn't appear any smarter; they just stuck around and watched and asked a lot of questions. And even as a surgical tech working in a new place, I've been in the position where I knew something a PGY4 or 5 didn't know how to answer- and seriously, I know how much I don't know- their knowledge base was far broader and deeper than mine, despite seeing the same cases repeatedly. What made me look "smart" is that I remembered that one case.

How do you strike that balance? When are exams more important than another glowing recommendation from someone who recognizes that you not only don't ask to go home, but actually show up when you don't have to?

 

[Hangry]

Honest question: why are med students so intent on leaving? I'm new to this as a first year, but I've worked in the field for a long time. In my experience, the med students who show up all the time are the ones residents (and nurses, and all of us) love to have around, because they're willing to do the scut work or just be there to chat. They also seem to be the ones who understand what's going on instead, rather than looking like pre-meds who are shadowing. I have a life and family and also understand the weight of shelf scores, but isn't it more important to make it clear that you're really committed to what you're doing?

If you tell me that it doesn't make a difference since your evaluations will be similar to your less "committed" classmates, and that going home and studying is an infinitely better use of your time, I get it (and will note it for the future!). And in all fairness, my experience is in surgery. But there were med students who answered a LOT of questions that surgical interns and residents could not. They didn't appear any smarter; they just stuck around and watched and asked a lot of questions. And even as a surgical tech working in a new place, I've been in the position where I knew something a PGY4 or 5 didn't know how to answer- and seriously, I know how much I don't know- their knowledge base was far broader and deeper than mine, despite seeing the same cases repeatedly. What made me look "smart" is that I remembered that one case.

How do you strike that balance? When are exams more important than another glowing recommendation from someone who recognizes that you not only don't ask to go home, but actually show up when you don't have to?

Time is precious. That really starts to sink in during third year when it is at a premium. You want to waste as little of it as possible. The purpose of third year is to learn clinical medicine, not to "demonstrate your commitment to something". There are many, many times during third year where your time is being wasted in the hospital so most students prefer residents that give them the option to use their time as they see fit by telling them to go home when there isn't anything educational going on. You can always stay despite someone telling you you can leave, but you can never leave without that same permission so many students default prefer the residents that give us that option. (And unfortunately many students are just plain lazy and want residents that make them do as little work as possible rather than those that are truly interested in their education, and they prefer being sent home as much as possible as well)