New 50 student/year MD PhD program planned in SD

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Just saw this article on a new MD PhD program in San Diego.

http://www.mdphdcentral.com/digg/


50 students per class! The school will only train physician scientists and is run by the Scripps Institute, so it should be well funded.

Scripps School of Medicine would be the state's first new medical school in 40 years.
Pretty cool. Any other new programs out there? Thoughts?
 
You know, when I first read the title, I though it said "New 50 year MD PhD program planned". :laugh:
 
WRONG.

5 year program, no PhD given.

This is quite similar to what Topol partcipated in when he was still at the Cleveland Clinic - CCLCM is very similar to this.
 
WRONG.

5 year program, no PhD given.

This is quite similar to what Topol partcipated in when he was still at the Cleveland Clinic - CCLCM is very similar to this.
Ha ha, yeah, there was an article in the Cleveland Plain Dealer about this a couple of weeks ago. We were thinking the same thing, hmm, this school sounds a little familiar. Maybe Dr. Topol has repressed his memories of CCLCM.

Here's the PD article, if any of you are interested.

Dr. Eric Topol leading push for first-of-its-kind medical school
Posted by The Scalpel March 27, 2008 14:44PM
Categories: Impact, People in the news, Scalpel

Former Cleveland Clinic doctor Eric Topol is helping launch a new medical school, according to the San Diego Union Tribune. The Scripps School of Medicine will be a first of its kind, according to the newspaper, because it plans to train physicians for careers in both research and patient care. It would begin with 50 students a year in a five-year curriculum that includes medical courses and training in lab work, clinical trials and research topics such as molecular genetics.

The Union Tribune said the goal of the mixed curriculum is to have graduates bring laboratory discoveries to the patients' bedside. "There's no other curriculum and design such as this one," Topol, who now works for the Scripps Research Institute and Scripps Health, told the paper.

The school is Topol's idea. He conceived of it in November while talking with another institute executive.

Scripps hopes to accept its first class in 2013, which would make it the first new medical school in the last 40 years. It would win accreditation by 2018.

Original article from the San Diego Union Tribune:

March 25, 2008

The Scripps Research Institute and Scripps Health are working to set up what they hope will be the nation's first medical school entirely geared to training physicians for dual careers in research and patient care.

The coordinators, who plan to accept their inaugural group of students in 2013, would make the Scripps School of Medicine the county's first new medical school in 40 years.

They want to receive final accreditation for their school by 2018. Nationally, only one new medical school – at Florida State University – has been fully accredited in the past 20 years, said Dr. Dan Hunt, secretary of the Liaison Committee on Medical Education in Washington, D.C.

That committee's approval is required before medical school graduates can take the licensing exam required by state medical boards.

The Scripps institute must raise $150 million in startup money for the medical school, which would be housed in its campus on the Torrey Pines mesa. The program would enroll up to 50 students each year in a five-year curriculum that offers routine medical school courses, such as anatomy and biology, with subsequent rotations at Scripps Health's hospitals and doctors' offices.

But these students would also receive training in lab work, clinical trials and research topics such as molecular genetics. The goal is to have them bring laboratory discoveries to the patients' bedside.

“There's no other curriculum and design such as this one,” said Dr. Eric Topol, who holds positions with the Scripps institute and Scripps Health.

Although many of the 130 medical schools in the United States offer similar physician-scientist training, they include only a few students at a time, Topol said. Those programs can take as long as nine years, he said.

At the Scripps institute, “students will have a stipulated interest in becoming physician scientists, not only for the care of patients but to conduct research to change the future of medicine,” Topol said.

Chris Van Gorder, president and chief executive officer of Scripps Health, said, “There's no medical school in the world that's dedicated to translational science and developing future scientists.”

Scripps Health's network of five hospitals and several thousand affiliated physicians provide about one-third of the patient care in San Diego County.

The medical school endeavor is a natural extension of training programs and graduate medical education that have been offered for many years through Scripps Health, Van Gorder said.

“I don't think it's going to be that big of a gamble,” he said.

Van Gorder emphasized that the school “will not pull money away from any patient care programs” at Scripps Health. The Scripps institute “is aware of that and expects our contribution to be compensated,” he said.

The institute has not raised any of the money needed for the new school. With an annual operating budget of $400 million, it is the world's largest independent, nonprofit biomedical institute. It already runs an accredited graduate science program with about 200 students.

“It made a lot of sense to expand our program to the medical school arena and see if we could start one,” said Douglas Bingham, the institute's executive vice president and chief operating officer.

Topol, who came to Scripps in January 2007 after working with the Cleveland Clinic and Case Western Reserve University, conceived of the medical school idea in November during a conversation with Bingham.

Topol said the institute has hired Cary Thomas to help establish the program. Thomas was formerly vice dean for finance and operations for the medical school at the University of Southern California.

Several weeks ago, Scripps institute officials paid the liaison committee a $25,000 fee to file its accreditation application. The committee, which requires all medical school applicants to meet 133 standards in five lengthy phases, will visit the facility early next month for the first phase.

It's unusual for a county to have more than one medical school, if it has any. The only one in San Diego County is the 40-year-old UC San Diego School of Medicine.

Dr. David Brenner, its dean, said he supports efforts to expand programs in biomedical research and medical education.

But instead of starting a medical school, he said, the Scripps institute and Scripps Health should consider collaborating with UCSD to “minimize the costly duplication of infrastructure and programs necessary . . . at a time when we are facing cuts in medical education funding at the state and federal levels.”

What Scripps is attempting, Brenner said, is “really hard work.”

Not only do faculty members have to be hired, but new courses must be designed. Conflict-of-interest policies, diversity programs, student loan procedures and reimbursement formulas “all must be established from scratch,” Hunt said.

At first, it may be difficult for Scripps to recruit students because the liaison committee would not give its decision on final accreditation until students from the first class are ready to graduate.

Nationwide, many physicians groups and health policy analysts have decried a shortage of physicians. They see the problem worsening as baby boomers reach the age when they will need more medical care.

There's also a perceived shortage of physicians willing to take care of the uninsured or enter the fields of internal medicine and primary care, which are usually less lucrative than plastic surgery or dermatology.

Additionally, many physicians are retiring or practicing less because of concerns about declining reimbursement from health plans and government payers.

California is expected to be short about 17,000 physicians by 2015.

Several years ago, the Association of American Medical Colleges called on medical schools to expand enrollment by 30 percent to meet the increasing demand for doctors.

In response, some medical schools have raised the number of students they will accept, Hunt said. There were 42,315 applicants nationally for the 2007 school year, but only 17,759 were accepted, he said. That is 8 percent more than in 2002, but it's still far short of what is needed.

This year, the UCSD School of Medicine increased its incoming class size for the first time in decades – from 122 students to 134.

Nine institutions across the country, including the Scripps institute, are seeking accreditation for their medical schools.

“If (Scripps) stays focused on training physicians for a research niche, that might be pretty unique,” Hunt said. “My guess is that as they move toward becoming real, they'll broaden their mission.”
 
When I read the San Diego newspaper article, I couldn't believe that this program was being billed as the first of its kind.

Upon further reflection, I figured that Topol's/Scripps' "loophole" in this discussion is that they're seeking independent accreditation, while CCLCM is this arm of Case's med school (albeit a somewhat detached arm, in some ways). But I think that having CCLCM packaged with Case is a great way to handle things. When I revisited CCLCM, I talked to a few other people who had also applied there just because it was so easy (clicking another checkbox in the Case application). Scripps will not have that benefit, although I'm sure that they will do just fine by virtue of being in California.
 
When I read the San Diego newspaper article, I couldn't believe that this program was being billed as the first of its kind.

Upon further reflection, I figured that Topol's/Scripps' "loophole" in this discussion is that they're seeking independent accreditation, while CCLCM is this arm of Case's med school (albeit a somewhat detached arm, in some ways). But I think that having CCLCM packaged with Case is a great way to handle things. When I revisited CCLCM, I talked to a few other people who had also applied there just because it was so easy (clicking another checkbox in the Case application). Scripps will not have that benefit, although I'm sure that they will do just fine by virtue of being in California.
I agree. I think a lot of people first find out about CCLCM when they're applying to Case, and they figure, ok, I'll just check one more box because it doesn't cost anything. Another big advantage is that CCLCM was accredited from the beginning through Case, and the affiliation makes it really convenient for us to take advantage of other Case resources, like doing an MS. I'm not sure what percentage of CCLCM students are getting an MS, but it's a pretty significant number. Maybe a third of us? A lot of CCLCM people still take some classes or do research over at Case even if they're not doing an official MS. Probably most of us are also rotating through the Case hospitals at some point. We have access to all of their medical student groups and social events, and some of the Case students come to the Clinic to rotate or do research also. So I think it was a really good deal for all of the students in terms of increasing our research and clinical opportunities.
 
Saw this in the local paper:

New Scripps Research Institute Medical School

Speaking to some of the faculty at UCSD, there are rumors that an MD/PhD might be the obligatory degree after graduation, although the article makes no mention of that. They certainly seem to plan to have a translational emphasis in the curriculum, however.
 
You know, this is nice and all, and Scripps is rolling in money so they can do whatever they want (although they may find this enterprise to be pretty expensive). But I wonder if it's really appropriate? We hear a lot about this projected physician shortage, which is controversial as it is, but the specialties that seem to need people are primary care, general surgery, and other very clinical fields. On the other hand, NIH funding gets harder to obtain with every passing year in Iraq. Is academic medicine where the growth should be targeted? Shouldn't the system find a way to take better care of those people already in the physician-scientist pipeline first?
 
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