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If you had a choice between attending New Jersey Medical School or Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, which would you choose and why?
NJMS or RWJMS???????
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I want to jump in on this before it becomes an NJMS vs. RWJMS bashfest like every other thread like this turns into.
I had the choice and I picked NJMS. People can argue U.S. News rankings all day and frankly, I don't think that's much of an indicator. I looked at the match lists for both schools and they both place students into competitive residencies and competitive programs.
After visiting both schools, I felt much more welcome at NJMS than I did at RWJMS--both in the interview process and accepted stages. When I was at NJMS, everyone seemed much more up beat, open armed, and excited about the future (they implemented a new curriculum this year which has it's positives and negatives, but at the time I was visiting it was a big deal). RWJMS didn't give me that same feeling.
And as far as the Newark vs. New Brunswick debate, I settled that on the fact that RWJ splits their class between NB and Camden for clerkships and I was put in the Camden program. Newark might not be the best place in the world, but at least it wasn't recently rated the Worst City in America.
I had the choice and I picked NJMS. People can argue U.S. News rankings all day and frankly, I don't think that's much of an indicator. I looked at the match lists for both schools and they both place students into competitive residencies and competitive programs.
After visiting both schools, I felt much more welcome at NJMS than I did at RWJMS--both in the interview process and accepted stages. When I was at NJMS, everyone seemed much more up beat, open armed, and excited about the future (they implemented a new curriculum this year which has it's positives and negatives, but at the time I was visiting it was a big deal). RWJMS didn't give me that same feeling.
And as far as the Newark vs. New Brunswick debate, I settled that on the fact that RWJ splits their class between NB and Camden for clerkships and I was put in the Camden program. Newark might not be the best place in the world, but at least it wasn't recently rated the Worst City in America.
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Of the two, I ended up only applying to RWJ...I'm not a big fan of Newark or the campus. But that's just me...since I'm technically out-of-state anyway, it was a crap shoot for me.
I do think it's funny that the previous poster shuns the rankings that may give RWJ the edge, yet then cites Camden being "rated" the worst city in the U.S. Fair enough, Camden is a rough place. But let's face it, the fact that it comes down to a debate about which city is more awful, Newark or Camden, is a bad sign...that being said, both schools have solid match lists, and I'm sure they both offer great clinical exposure.
I do think it's funny that the previous poster shuns the rankings that may give RWJ the edge, yet then cites Camden being "rated" the worst city in the U.S. Fair enough, Camden is a rough place. But let's face it, the fact that it comes down to a debate about which city is more awful, Newark or Camden, is a bad sign...that being said, both schools have solid match lists, and I'm sure they both offer great clinical exposure.
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SuNNNy84 said:
I'm not an expert on RWJMS and I have only anectodal evidence of what their classes are like, but in terms of the changes made, they streamlined a lot of the courses--fewer lectures, more hands on (especially with anatomy, we had almost no pure anatomy lectures only cadaver work and embryo lectures), more PBL time, clinical exposure in what we call Physician's Core but other schools call "Doctoring" or "Art of Medicine" (i believe RWJMS calls it the former, but I'm not sure).
I don't know if that answers your question or not, but if you're in at both you should go to the accepted student luncheons at each school. They're a pretty good source for info.
this is NIH ranks based on money
let me give you some facts 😀
Fiscal year 2003...
overall NJMS is 56 in funding and RWJ is 64 ( I belive this doesnt include the doubling of NIH funds NJMS has now, that should be in FY 2004)
by individual dept.
In anatomy/cell biology funding NJMS is ranked 70/88 and RWJ is not ranked.
in anesthesiology NJMS is ranked 41/54 and RWJ is not ranked.
in biochemistry NJMS is ranked 52/105 and RWJ 39
in family medicine RWJMS is ranked 16/44 and NJMS is ranked 44/44.
in genetics RWJMS is ranked 23/46 and NJMS is not ranked.
in internal medicine NJMS is ranked 64/107 and RWJMS is 68
in microbio, immuno, and virology NJMS is ranked 39/99 and RWJ is not ranked.
in neurology RWJ is ranked 56/75 and NJMS is not ranked.
in neurosciences RWJ is ranked 12/24 and NJMS is ranked 15
in neurosurgery NJMS is ranked 33/42 and RWJ is not ranked.
in obstetrics and gynec NJMS is ranked 29/79 and RWJ is 49.
in opthamalogy NJMS is 51/64 and RWJ is not ranked.
in pathology RWJ is 67/97 and NJMS is 75.
in pediatrics RWJ is 47/93 and NJMS is 58.
in pharmacology RWJ is 36/102 and NJMS is 59.
in physical medicine and rehabil NJMS is 19/20.
in physiology and biophysics RWJMS is 54/91 NJMS not ranked
in psychiatry NJMS is 45/93 and RWJ is 57.
in public health and prevention RWJ is 15/53 NJMS is not ranked.
in diagnostic radiation/oncolocy NJMS is 46/67 and RWJ is not ranked.
in surgery NJMS is 12/83 and RWJ 22.
This is the rank of each dept in the medical school. as you can see..both schools have their strengths and weaknesses....i am assuming that b/c there are 129 or so medical schools...the schools depts that did not get money were not listed here.
my source: http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medindp03.htm
let me give you some facts 😀
Fiscal year 2003...
overall NJMS is 56 in funding and RWJ is 64 ( I belive this doesnt include the doubling of NIH funds NJMS has now, that should be in FY 2004)
by individual dept.
In anatomy/cell biology funding NJMS is ranked 70/88 and RWJ is not ranked.
in anesthesiology NJMS is ranked 41/54 and RWJ is not ranked.
in biochemistry NJMS is ranked 52/105 and RWJ 39
in family medicine RWJMS is ranked 16/44 and NJMS is ranked 44/44.
in genetics RWJMS is ranked 23/46 and NJMS is not ranked.
in internal medicine NJMS is ranked 64/107 and RWJMS is 68
in microbio, immuno, and virology NJMS is ranked 39/99 and RWJ is not ranked.
in neurology RWJ is ranked 56/75 and NJMS is not ranked.
in neurosciences RWJ is ranked 12/24 and NJMS is ranked 15
in neurosurgery NJMS is ranked 33/42 and RWJ is not ranked.
in obstetrics and gynec NJMS is ranked 29/79 and RWJ is 49.
in opthamalogy NJMS is 51/64 and RWJ is not ranked.
in pathology RWJ is 67/97 and NJMS is 75.
in pediatrics RWJ is 47/93 and NJMS is 58.
in pharmacology RWJ is 36/102 and NJMS is 59.
in physical medicine and rehabil NJMS is 19/20.
in physiology and biophysics RWJMS is 54/91 NJMS not ranked
in psychiatry NJMS is 45/93 and RWJ is 57.
in public health and prevention RWJ is 15/53 NJMS is not ranked.
in diagnostic radiation/oncolocy NJMS is 46/67 and RWJ is not ranked.
in surgery NJMS is 12/83 and RWJ 22.
This is the rank of each dept in the medical school. as you can see..both schools have their strengths and weaknesses....i am assuming that b/c there are 129 or so medical schools...the schools depts that did not get money were not listed here.
my source: http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medindp03.htm
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DrOctopus said:
Its not the worst city, its the most dangerous city ... and there care caveats to that ranking.
Also, just so you know RWJ is undergoing ciriculum change - for the better, I have to get the specifics from my friend but it looks good. As for Camden, Cooper is on of the best hospitals in south jersey area and competitive with many philly hospitals in the area plus its cheaper to live around here. Just my $.02.
I haven't see NJMS but will be applying there whenever I apply. I know people in both schools, both happy for different reasons.
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drguy22 said:
Drguy,
I thought you were highly opposed to these types of rankings. Why would you post this type of thing. Any kind of ranking can always be misconstrued to a "my school is better than your school" argument.
BigRedPingpong said:
well if ya cant fight em join em.
and another thing is that....these are hard facts....some of the criteria that are used by US news are highly subjective....these ranks are based on hard facts!
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drguy22 said:
nice 👍
Edit: Us News bases a large part of there rankings on subjective things like NIH fundings (something you enjoy using), GPA, MCAT scores, Acceptance rate and faculty to student ratio.
Medicine Methodology
The 125 medical schools fully accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education plus the 19 schools of osteopathic medicine fully accredited by the American Osteopathic Association were surveyed for the ranking of research medical schools; 119 schools provided the data needed to calculate the research rankings based on the indicators used in the research model. The same medical and osteopathic schools were surveyed for the primary-care ranking; 119 schools provided the data needed to calculate the primary-care ranking. Both rankings are based on a weighted average of seven indicators, six of them common to both models. The research model factors in research activity; the primary-care model adds a measure of the proportion of graduates entering primary-care specialties.
Quality assessment(weighted by .40): Peer assessment surveys were conducted in the fall of 2003, asking medical and osteopathic school deans, deans of academic affairs, and heads of internal medicine or the directors of admissions to rate program quality on a scale of "marginal" (1) to "outstanding" (5). Survey populations were asked to rate program quality for both research and primary-care programs separately on a single survey instrument. The response rate was 56 percent. A research school's average score is weighted .20; the average score in the primary-care model is weighted .25. Residency program directors were also asked to rate programs using the same 5-point scale on two separate survey instruments. One survey dealt with research and was sent to a sample of residency program directors in fields outside primary care including surgery, psychiatry, and radiology. The other survey involved primary care and was sent to residency directors in those fields. The response rate for those sent the research survey was 28 percent. The response rate for those sent the primary-care survey was also 28 percent. Residency directors' opinions are weighted .20 in the research model and .15 in primary care.
Research activity (.30 in research model only): Activity was measured as the total dollar amount of National Institutes of Health research grants awarded to the medical school and its affiliated hospitals, averaged for 2002 and 2003. An asterisk indicates schools that reported only research grants to their medical school in 2003.
Primary-care rate (.30 in primary-care model only): The percentage of M.D. school graduates entering primary-care residencies in the fields of family practice, pediatrics, and internal medicine was averaged over 2001, 2002, and 2003.
Student selectivity (.20 in research model, .15 in primary-care model): This includes three components, which describe the class entering in fall 2003: mean composite Medical College Admission Test score (65 percent), mean undergraduate grade-point average (30 percent), and proportion of applicants accepted (5 percent).
Faculty resources (.10 in research model, .15 in primary-care model): Resources were measured as the ratio of full-time science and clinical faculty to full-time M.D. students in 2003.
Overall rank: The research-activity indicator had significant outliers; to avoid distortion, it was transformed using a logarithmic function. Indicators were standardized about their means, and standardized scores were weighted, totaled, and rescaled so that the top school received 100; other schools received their percentage of the top score.
Specialty rankings: The rankings are based solely on ratings by medical school deans and senior faculty at peer schools.They each identified up to 10 schools offering the best programs in each specialty area. Those receiving the most nominations appear here.
source: US NEWS. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/about/05med_meth_brief.php
The 125 medical schools fully accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education plus the 19 schools of osteopathic medicine fully accredited by the American Osteopathic Association were surveyed for the ranking of research medical schools; 119 schools provided the data needed to calculate the research rankings based on the indicators used in the research model. The same medical and osteopathic schools were surveyed for the primary-care ranking; 119 schools provided the data needed to calculate the primary-care ranking. Both rankings are based on a weighted average of seven indicators, six of them common to both models. The research model factors in research activity; the primary-care model adds a measure of the proportion of graduates entering primary-care specialties.
Quality assessment(weighted by .40): Peer assessment surveys were conducted in the fall of 2003, asking medical and osteopathic school deans, deans of academic affairs, and heads of internal medicine or the directors of admissions to rate program quality on a scale of "marginal" (1) to "outstanding" (5). Survey populations were asked to rate program quality for both research and primary-care programs separately on a single survey instrument. The response rate was 56 percent. A research school's average score is weighted .20; the average score in the primary-care model is weighted .25. Residency program directors were also asked to rate programs using the same 5-point scale on two separate survey instruments. One survey dealt with research and was sent to a sample of residency program directors in fields outside primary care including surgery, psychiatry, and radiology. The other survey involved primary care and was sent to residency directors in those fields. The response rate for those sent the research survey was 28 percent. The response rate for those sent the primary-care survey was also 28 percent. Residency directors' opinions are weighted .20 in the research model and .15 in primary care.
Research activity (.30 in research model only): Activity was measured as the total dollar amount of National Institutes of Health research grants awarded to the medical school and its affiliated hospitals, averaged for 2002 and 2003. An asterisk indicates schools that reported only research grants to their medical school in 2003.
Primary-care rate (.30 in primary-care model only): The percentage of M.D. school graduates entering primary-care residencies in the fields of family practice, pediatrics, and internal medicine was averaged over 2001, 2002, and 2003.
Student selectivity (.20 in research model, .15 in primary-care model): This includes three components, which describe the class entering in fall 2003: mean composite Medical College Admission Test score (65 percent), mean undergraduate grade-point average (30 percent), and proportion of applicants accepted (5 percent).
Faculty resources (.10 in research model, .15 in primary-care model): Resources were measured as the ratio of full-time science and clinical faculty to full-time M.D. students in 2003.
Overall rank: The research-activity indicator had significant outliers; to avoid distortion, it was transformed using a logarithmic function. Indicators were standardized about their means, and standardized scores were weighted, totaled, and rescaled so that the top school received 100; other schools received their percentage of the top score.
Specialty rankings: The rankings are based solely on ratings by medical school deans and senior faculty at peer schools.They each identified up to 10 schools offering the best programs in each specialty area. Those receiving the most nominations appear here.
source: US NEWS. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/about/05med_meth_brief.php
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.60 of a schools rank is based on the aforementioned objective (sorry for the typo) points. 60% can be significant depending how you view or choose not to view it. These "surveys" are made for the readers judgements.
NJMS is ranked in US news and it did submit its survey. It is just not ranked in the top 50. In the premium version of US news, you can view up to top 75 schools. NJMS has had the reputation of popping in and out of the to 75 from year to year. I'm not sure what rank it is this year. Maybe in the 60's or 70's or mayber lower (which means it won't show up).
NJMS is ranked in US news and it did submit its survey. It is just not ranked in the top 50. In the premium version of US news, you can view up to top 75 schools. NJMS has had the reputation of popping in and out of the to 75 from year to year. I'm not sure what rank it is this year. Maybe in the 60's or 70's or mayber lower (which means it won't show up).
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so what is NJMS this year? You may as well post RWJ too since this thread is on the subject or comparing the two schools. Can you also post their NIH dollars as well. thnks!
i dont know NJMS's US news rank....but RWJ is ranked under primary care as like 49 or sumthin..BigRedPingpong said:
here are some NIH rankings...and u can see they are pretty close..
52. UC Davis $70,488,397
53. Ohio State $68,258,858
54. UC Irvine $68,085,494
55. U of Arizona $66,148,463
56. NJMS $64,922,163
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63. georgetown $57,870,782
64. RWJMS $54,282,161
65. U CONN $52,320,119
66. Tufts $48,084,170
67. Brown $45,076,158
about a 10million difference...RWJ has a lot more institutes that NJMS though..NJMS is a little slow but we are gettin out cancer and ambulatory instutes....
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Those ratings that DrGuy22 seem to be pretty objective though. I was actually surprised that NJMS receives more $$$$ than RWJ. From what I have seen so far, the administration at NJMS is very good and Dr. Heinreich was very helpful when I went in to discuss the possibility of applying EDP for the school a couple of days ago and the whole environment in the school seems to be a lot more happy than the vibe that I got at RWJ. Also, I here that they are building brand new dorms.
But besides the ratings, I was just wondering about how the students at the two schools do on their USMLEs. I know that in the end, RWJ is good for primary care but what kind of residencies do most of NJMS students end up at?
But besides the ratings, I was just wondering about how the students at the two schools do on their USMLEs. I know that in the end, RWJ is good for primary care but what kind of residencies do most of NJMS students end up at?
NJMS's 2004 match list.
https://admin-njms.umdnj.edu/StudentAffairs/MatchResults.aspx?tabid=19
on the left hand side go to 2004..its set at 2005 rite now.
RWJMS's 2004 match list
http://rwjms.umdnj.edu/news/matchlist04.htm
https://admin-njms.umdnj.edu/StudentAffairs/MatchResults.aspx?tabid=19
on the left hand side go to 2004..its set at 2005 rite now.
RWJMS's 2004 match list
http://rwjms.umdnj.edu/news/matchlist04.htm
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drguy22 said:
Thanks for the QUICK reply. You just seem to have all the answers don't you. It seemed like NJMS had a lot more matches in each specialty (i'm glad to see more in dermatology cuz that's the field I want to go into).
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mshheaddoc said:
i know it's not the worst city, I was exaggerating slightly. (but they finally jumped over Detroit for the honor. w00t!)
As far as U.S. News rankings are concerned, I think they have a fundamental flaw in their methodology, a fact that was expounded upon in a 2001 article in the AAMC's Academic Medicine journal. I can't find the article itself as the AAMC has changed up it's website directory tree, but here's an article in their newsletter-type thing Rating the Rankings: Medical Education Weighs in on the U.S. News Guide to Grad Schools
One thing I think the rankings are good for, is that they serve as a single location for important facts about each school (avg. indebtedness, acceptance rates, class sizes, etc).
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if pediatrics is your specialty of choice, is RWJ definitely the way to go?
just curious what the general opinion is...
just curious what the general opinion is...
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Hey guys...people who have acceptances to both RWJMS and NJMS PLEASE[/B] go to RWJMS and give up that NJMS spot....I feel like I'm on the brink and it would mean the world to me!!
That being said, RWJ is the better location by far, but education-wise and with regard to what you're able to do residency-wise, I feel they are virtually identical.
That being said, RWJ is the better location by far, but education-wise and with regard to what you're able to do residency-wise, I feel they are virtually identical.
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all this research money to the different schools only matter when you want to go there to do research. if u want to get a medical education, you will need to compare other things like the above mentioned matchlist, teaching hospitals, clinical electives and the strength of the clinical curriculum.
throwing all those dollar figures serves no purpose for figuring out where the 2 medical schools stand in terms of medical education. its like comparing apples and oranges.
throwing all those dollar figures serves no purpose for figuring out where the 2 medical schools stand in terms of medical education. its like comparing apples and oranges.
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This whole NJMS versus RWJ debate IMO is pointless. This is like debating between NYU and Mt. Sinai. 🙄 NJMS and RWJ are both very solid med schools, nothing super. These figures and rankings only further prove that these two are about the same. Both have comparable residency match lists. Both provide good research opportunity through the whole UMDNJ system. As for the clinical training, the experience is certainly different at each, but you can not say that one is better than the other.
So when it comes down to choosing between the two, it is a personal preference. Where do you want to live and where do you feel more comfortable at?
So when it comes down to choosing between the two, it is a personal preference. Where do you want to live and where do you feel more comfortable at?
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As a grad of NJMS (class of '02), there are a couple of things I feel are worth pointing out after breezing over from the residency forums.
First, while NIH funding is important to the financial well being of the school, it is pretty inconsequential in regard to the experience of you as a med student. What IS great about NJMS is the clinical experience it provides. I felt like I had a great clinical education and felt WAY ahead of the curve in terms of ability and confort level going into internship.
The argument that Newark "isn't nice" is ridiculous. Are you looking for a country club or a medical school? If it's the latter option, then I suggest you seek a place with a high volume of sick patients at your primary clinical site. If you are a medical student who rotates in "nice" private hospitals you are not going to get nearly as many procedures as a student who works in a place like University. There are also secondary sites (Hackensack & Morristown) which provide a good mix pathology and patients in higher socioeconomic groups to round out your experience. The VA hospital in East Orange is also a great hands-on place to do rotations.
One thing I liked about NJMS is that the whole class stays together from start to finish. Part of the class at RWJMS was on the Camden track and part stayed in New Brunswick... not sure if it's still the same now.
In retrospect, NJMS was just what I needed. There were a bunch of docs who were really great teachers and a bunch of cool residents who really cared that I learned during my clinical rotations. If I had to go back, I'd still pick NJMS.
First, while NIH funding is important to the financial well being of the school, it is pretty inconsequential in regard to the experience of you as a med student. What IS great about NJMS is the clinical experience it provides. I felt like I had a great clinical education and felt WAY ahead of the curve in terms of ability and confort level going into internship.
The argument that Newark "isn't nice" is ridiculous. Are you looking for a country club or a medical school? If it's the latter option, then I suggest you seek a place with a high volume of sick patients at your primary clinical site. If you are a medical student who rotates in "nice" private hospitals you are not going to get nearly as many procedures as a student who works in a place like University. There are also secondary sites (Hackensack & Morristown) which provide a good mix pathology and patients in higher socioeconomic groups to round out your experience. The VA hospital in East Orange is also a great hands-on place to do rotations.
One thing I liked about NJMS is that the whole class stays together from start to finish. Part of the class at RWJMS was on the Camden track and part stayed in New Brunswick... not sure if it's still the same now.
In retrospect, NJMS was just what I needed. There were a bunch of docs who were really great teachers and a bunch of cool residents who really cared that I learned during my clinical rotations. If I had to go back, I'd still pick NJMS.
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drguy22 said:
DrGuy22,
I am considering both UTMB (University of Texas - Galveston) and NJMS. Would you happen to know how these schools compare in the U.S. News and world report?
Which would be the better school?
darkAmericano said:
i cant say much about UTMB cuz i hardly know anything about it. But I think you should do research on both schools and go to the school that fits you without really looking at ranking. I can answer questions you have about NJMS...here are some facts that i know of...
we are getting a cancer center..its being built rite now
we are getting apartment dorm connected to the school...being built now
we are getting a new ambulatory center...being built now.
there is a new curriculum
and we are getting more money from the NIH
if ya got more questions...ask away.
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Is it true that NJMS accepts lot of gunners during their third year through some special program at Rutgers? That sucks cuz it leaves less seats for strong traditional applicants.
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I know they have a 7 year BA/MD agreement with Drew University, where I went to school as an undergrad. I graduated a couple years ago and can't recall if there were any students in that program entering NJMS this year.
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NeverGettingIn said:
Hi...this is my first time posting here. Anyway, I am a 4th year student at NJMS and going into Pediatrics. I am soooo glad I went there. The peds program there is great. I learned a ton. The program director is very hands on and makes sure that each and every student/resident learns as much as they can. The day can seem long and jam-packed but in the end, you learn so much more. I was very well prepared for the peds shelf.
On the whole, you can look at statistics between the 2 schools until you're blue in the face but for me, the most important thing was my comfort level with the school. When I interviewed at RWJ I didn't get the sense that the school cared whether I got in or not. Just the opposite for NJMS. Yes, it's in Newark, but it's right off 280. You drive through 3 traffic lights and you're there. A little further if you come off 78. The hospital is attached to the medical school, which I love. It is so student-friendly. We take ownership of every patient and really get in there and learn how to do things. Also you graduate a master of the H&P. We have our own clinical skills facility which you will be tested in at the end of every clerkship. The new step II CS was a breeze (if you know what that is). We were put into private practices in our 1st and second years - you can do peds, IM or FM. Once a week for about 3-4 hours, just to get our feet wet and keep it interesting.
I am deciding between NJMS and Morristown for my peds residency. Most of my colleagues have interviewed at the high powered NY residencies but because I am married, own a house and have a kid on the way I am not willing to move or commute that far. I was dead set on NJMS, but in the end I think the community hospital setting is better for me. A lot of my classmates are considering staying at NJMS for peds residency despite having interviewed at Cornell, CHOP and the like.
well I hope this helps you. I really don't know too much about RWJ except that I had a negative interview experience there, and I thought the NJMS campus was nicer, believe it or not. I think the education I got there was excellent...I think if you're headed into research RWJ is probably a better bet for you, but there is certainly plenty of research opportunities at NJMS.
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drguy22 said:
DrGuy22,
Do you know where I can find a recent survey of mcat, gpa, and usmle step 1 & 2 averages for all U.S. medical schools? Or at least for NJMS?
I really need a way to compare my choices. Any help you could provide would be appreciated.
darkAmericano said:
from wat i know....NJMS's avg
MCAT: 30.3...something like that...source 😛rinceton review
GPA 3.5
i dont the USMLE scores..but they are above avg...u can take a look that the match list and judge from there..i posted the link a few posts up..in this thread...
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Extramural Research Funding according to each schools annual report:
RWJMS 120 Million
NJMS 90 Million.
Not that it should make or break ones choice, but the NIH rankings do not necessarily serve as an accurate marker when comparing research activity.
RWJMS 120 Million
NJMS 90 Million.
Not that it should make or break ones choice, but the NIH rankings do not necessarily serve as an accurate marker when comparing research activity.
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drguy22 said:
Right off umdnj's website under the FAQ:
"What are the average MCAT scores and GPA of accepted students?
Accepted students in the 2003 entering class had an average GPA of 3.47 and an average MCAT score of 29."
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good luck camisho...im goin to NJMS next Fall and I cant wait......DrGuy, after reading this forum, would I be taking a stab in the dark if I said you are really excited about the school?? 😀
merovingian said:
very excited...🙂 i cant wait to go to NJMS...I have seen that this school and all the affiliate programs actually care for its community and this is something I have yet to see with some of the other schools. Not only that but this school is on the move and fast....its getting a cancer center, ambulatory center, and dorms( the best part) everything being connected to the school. Plus, you have a GR8 administration that actually want to help the students suceed. I have had a bad vibe with the RWJ dean of admissions and people that are the exec commitee for AMSA and AED at my school knows what im talking bout...they held a meet the dean day ...and the dean yelled at them and told them that "there better be 40 people at this thing" and then i guess there werent 40 people and she yelled at them for wasting her time....thats what i have heard at least...
then u have people like Dr. H... who comes whenever invited and doesnt care if there are a minimum number of people...although everytime he comes its packed.
anyway..enough of my ranting...mero....i guess we are gonna be classmates🙂...along wit dpatto(hopefully)....
good luck to those that havent heard yet
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drguy22 said:very excited...🙂 i cant wait to go to NJMS...I have seen that this school and all the affiliate programs actually care for its community and this is something I have yet to see with some of the other schools. Not only that but this school is on the move and fast....its getting a cancer center, ambulatory center, and dorms( the best part) everything being connected to the school. Plus, you have a GR8 administration that actually want to help the students suceed. I have had a bad vibe with the RWJ dean of admissions and people that are the exec commitee for AMSA and AED at my school knows what im talking bout...they held a meet the dean day ...and the dean yelled at them and told them that "there better be 40 people at this thing" and then i guess there werent 40 people and she yelled at them for wasting her time....thats what i have heard at least...
then u have people like Dr. H... who comes whenever invited and doesnt care if there are a minimum number of people...although everytime he comes its packed.
anyway..enough of my ranting...mero....i guess we are gonna be classmates🙂...along wit dpatto(hopefully)....
good luck to those that havent heard yet
You know what? I get that you are excited about going to NJMS, but there really is no need to bash RWJ. Dr. Terregino, the dean of admissions, is awesome. Not only does she deal with running the admissions office, but she also teaches classes, as do many members of the admissions committee. Those guys go out of thier way for thier students, and I've never heard not one student at school have a negative thing to say about them.
RWJ is a great school, and I'm happy I choose it over NJMS. Doesn't mean I'm going to bash NJMS though. 🙄
