No Residency?

[Bandit]

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I dont support this but...

there are those in my school that say they dontneed one provided they do the rotating year. Is there any truth to this---can you get a liscence

 

[OnMyWayThere]

I dont support this but...

there are those in my school that say they dontneed one provided they do the rotating year. Is there any truth to this---can you get a liscence

Yes ... you are a fully licensed physician and surgeon. The drawbacks I hear are
- you don't know enough after 1 year PG training
- you won't get hired anywhere desirable
- many insurances will not reimburse you (I find this hard to believe)
- malpractice insurance is much higher
- your defense against a lawsuit will be weak

That's what I've read out there - not sure what is true or not, but I do know for sure that you are a fully licensed physician (obviously not board certified)

 

[Megalofyia]

Michael Creighton didn't do a residency. You dont have to but you wont be able to get hospital privaleges. Maybe you could work in a doc in the box place. but I'm not sure about that. You could join the military and be their medical bitch.

 

[Nate]

From what I hear many insurances will not reimburse you anymore unless you are board certified/eligible. Of course, you can make a ton of money as a GP without accepting insurance anyway.

Way back when, when people walked barefoot in the snow to school uphill both ways I hear most GPs did not do a residency and just completed an internship but times are-a-changing/changed.

 

[scpod]

I dont support this but...

there are those in my school that say they dontneed one provided they do the rotating year. Is there any truth to this---can you get a liscence

More than 50% of states only have a one-year requirement for US med school graduates. Many of those same states require three years for FMG's, though. Many states have a two-year requirement and one even has a three-year requirement for US graduates. However, some states with a one-year requirement still make it difficult for you to get your permanent license with only an intern year. The question of malpractice insurance and hospital priveleges is one to consider as well. Neither are easy to get or maintain with only one year.

 

[OSUdoc08]

I dont support this but...

there are those in my school that say they dontneed one provided they do the rotating year. Is there any truth to this---can you get a liscence

Yes, you can get a license.

You will be poorly paid, and get less than desirable jobs. You would only be at hospitals with extreme shortages, and your malpractice insurance would be extremely high.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Michael Creighton didn't do a residency. You dont have to but you wont be able to get hospital privaleges. Maybe you could work in a doc in the box place. but I'm not sure about that. You could join the military and be their medical bitch.

This is a poor analogy, since residencies were not required in the past, due to the "grandfather clause." Things have since changed, and lack of training is no longer acceptable for new physicians.

 

[Dr Trek 1]

Lots of DOs/MDs don't do residencies, however I don't know of any who currently practice medicine.

Like me, for instance, I just want to get a job writing for "ER" and figure my DO will give me a nice credential. Also, writers for "ER" get paid a lot. I am also planning on creating a new DO attending on "ER", not sure of the name yet or who he is going to sleep with...

 

[scpod]

not sure of the name yet or who he is going to sleep with...

Why can't your TV DO be a really hot woman with big boobs? 🙂

 

[Dr Trek 1]

Why can't your TV DO be a really hot woman with big boobs? 🙂

That might give DOs a ditzy name. I have a great scene in mind though. Basically, since Chicago General Hospital on ER is an allopathic hospital, I'm going to have a pt. on the show who could really benefit from OMM. So I'm going to have the DO break the law and secretly practice OMM on them (in the hospital) in order to cure their ailment. The other MDs on the case will think it was their ingenious medication which cured the patient, but the DO (and the TV audience) will know who really saved the day 🙄

 

[scpod]

The other MDs on the case will think it was their ingenious medication which cured the patient, but the DO (and the TV audience) will know who really saved the day 🙄

I still think big boobs will help the ratings. After all, isn't that what TV is really concerned with...the ratings? Maybe Izzy from Grey's Anatomy could strip or something? 😀

 

[It'sElectric]

Lots of DOs/MDs don't do residencies, however I don't know of any who currently practice medicine.

Like me, for instance, I just want to get a job writing for "ER" and figure my DO will give me a nice credential. Also, writers for "ER" get paid a lot. I am also planning on creating a new DO attending on "ER", not sure of the name yet or who he is going to sleep with...

This is a joke, right?? I'm not catching the sarcasm just yet.

 

[Megalofyia]

This is a poor analogy, since residencies were not required in the past, due to the "grandfather clause." Things have since changed, and lack of training is no longer acceptable for new physicians.

It actually wasn't an analogy... just a poorly spaced fact.

 

[r90t]

It actually wasn't an analogy... just a poorly spaced fact.

Am am fully licensed in AZ/CA after PGY1 year. I am still in residency, but can moonlight if desired at an urgent care. Some of my classmates moonlighted in AZ ERs during their PGY2-3 years.

It pays $50/hour for doing bread and butter medicine. Not hard stuff. Helps supplement the meager residency salary.

The downside? One of my preceptors from EM has several friends that are now co-defendants in malpractices suits they earned while moonlighting. Did they have enough experience/training as a PGY2 to be doing what they did?? That is for the lawyers to figure out.

You really won't get much respect from any of the new physicians in practice if you don't complete a residency. Worse case, find a really easy DO FP residency (i.e. slack call schedule/pt volume) and get board certified 2+ years after your transitional year.

 

[NRAI2001]

Why would you not do a residency?

 

[OSUdoc08]

Why would you not do a residency?

If your mom had a megaloblastic anemia secondary to folate deficiency during your gestation.

The question is---how did you get into medical school?

 

[Idiopathic]

That might give DOs a ditzy name. I have a great scene in mind though. Basically, since Chicago General Hospital on ER is an allopathic hospital, I'm going to have a pt. on the show who could really benefit from OMM. So I'm going to have the DO break the law and secretly practice OMM on them (in the hospital) in order to cure their ailment. The other MDs on the case will think it was their ingenious medication which cured the patient, but the DO (and the TV audience) will know who really saved the day 🙄

Swear to God.



I saw Abby do a standing forward bending test on a patient a few seasons ago. It reminded me that the head doc for the ER writing team is a DO.


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