non-trad with 3.2 cgpa 520 MCAT, WAMC?

[elixvii]

1. cGPA 3.2, sGPA 3.38 (all As in orgo 1 and 2, orgo labs, physics 1, 2 and labs, biochem and misc bio courses)
2. 520 MCAT (hoping this will somewhat cancel out poor gpa)
3. Rural Virginia, my parents were both alcoholics
4. White Female
5. Rutgers
6. 300 clinical hours with an addiction specialist
7. 100 hours of ecology research, no pubs
8. 300+ hours with various addiction clinicians and a radiologist
9. 500 hours at family service center in my hometown, dog fostering, rehab volunteering
10. TAed for bio prof--Rutgers med school writing tutor PT--worked nyc corp job as COO for last 8 years FT during coursework--treasurer and president of pre-med society 2yrs--worked for lobbyist trying to ease restrictions on addiction medication
11. graduated rutgers magna cum laude
12. I believe I have a strong PS on why I want to become a rural primary care phys specializing in addiction

i'm a non-trad student, I initially went to school at 18 and flunked out, then I went to 2 different community colleges and flunked out again, I have like 10+ Ws. This was between 2010-2012. In 2016 I got my **** together and finally did well. Yes, I had to retake gen chem 1 and 2 but I have all As in my upper level sciences, B in calculus, graduated with a 3.75 magna cum laude, I went on to complete my masters in econ with a 3.8.

i'm worried my initial **** ups will ruin my chances. even when I returned to school I did have a few retakes of courses where I didn't do well but it is an upward trajectory.

shooting for DO primarily.

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[ecobio]

I have a similar GPA/MCAT with an upward trend and have gotten early love from both DO and MD programs. per the mcat grid, you have a 56% chance to get into an MD program. with such a stellar MCAT and GPA trend, as well as a great story, i think you have a higher chance.

not sure if theres a similar DO chart...

both DO and MD programs would be lucky to have you 🙂

 

[elixvii]

I have a similar GPA/MCAT with an upward trend and have gotten early love from both DO and MD programs. per the mcat grid, you have a 56% chance to get into an MD program. with such a stellar MCAT and GPA trend, as well as a great story, i think you have a higher chance.

not sure if theres a similar DO chart...

both DO and MD programs would be lucky to have you 🙂

it's great to hear from people with similar experiences already going through it, thank you for the insight

 

[stew_md]

I think you should apply to both MD and DO. Do you have any other clinical experience? It sounds like for #6 you shadowed this addiction specialist? It might be useful to at least get a clinical volunteering gig if not a clinical job if you are planning to apply next cycle.

 

[elixvii]

I think you should apply to both MD and DO. Do you have any other clinical experience? It sounds like for #6 you shadowed this addiction specialist? It might be useful to at least get a clinical volunteering gig if not a clinical job if you are planning to apply next cycle.

sorry, yes, I meant to say 300 clinical hours with an addiction specialist over about 1.5 years, it was a volunteer position doing urine and intake screens. thank you, I'm going to apply as widely as I can.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

cGPA 3.2, sGPA 3.38 (all As in orgo 1 and 2, orgo labs, physics 1, 2 and labs, biochem and misc bio courses)

But...

graduated rutgers magna cum laude

I presume this means you have a great GPA trend along with your MCAT. (Yes, you described what happened.)

I also agree your application may be more desirable than you think.

 

[elixvii]

But...

I presume this means you have a great GPA trend along with your MCAT. (Yes, you described what happened.)

I also agree your application may be more desirable than you think.

I initially went to college at 18 and failed miserably, I tried 3 schools between 2010-2012. I have like 10+ Ws from that time and Fs.

When I was 23 I went back (2016-2021) and did well in undergrad and grad, that's why I graduated magna cum laude from that university but I have to account for all my grades so my GPA is a pitiful 3.2.

That's my main concern, I'm worried adcoms will see how rough of a start I had at 18 and write my app off. (i'm now 31)

 

[Goro]

Can you give us a year by year rundown of your gpas? And what was your master's degree in?

There are medical schools that reward reinvention

 

[elixvii]

Can you give us a year by year rundown of your gpas? And what was your master's degree in?

There are medical schools that reward reinvention

2010 attended university- 1st semester 1.52gpa and withdrew from the next (no sci/math classes)
2011 attended CC- one F one C one W (no sci/math classes)
2012 attended another CC- one B, and the next semester was all Ws (no sci/math classes)

I have about 10 Ws from this time. Parents were both alcoholics, I was finally able to move out after 2012.

I then decided to work, I eventually worked my way up to COO of a Manhattan based sales firm. I went back to school FT while working FT.

2016-2020 undergrad major in economics, minor in biology 3.75 gpa
2020-2021 grad MA in economics 3.8 gpa

now I did have to retake gen chem 1 and 2, I struggled at first with the sciences but then went on to get all As in my upper level sci courses/prereqs. I also became president of pre-med society, a tutor and a bio TA.

That's my GPA trajectory, it's bad, I know. I'm praying the working FT, returning to school FT and doing well will show adcoms that I am no longer that struggling 18-20yr old. What do you think?

 

[Goro]

2010 attended university- 1st semester 1.52gpa and withdrew from the next (no sci/math classes)
2011 attended CC- one F one C one W (no sci/math classes)
2012 attended another CC- one B, and the next semester was all Ws (no sci/math classes)

I have about 10 Ws from this time. Parents were both alcoholics, I was finally able to move out after 2012.

I then decided to work, I eventually worked my way up to COO of a Manhattan based sales firm. I went back to school FT while working FT.

2016-2020 undergrad major in economics, minor in biology 3.75 gpa
2020-2021 grad MA in economics 3.8 gpa

now I did have to retake gen chem 1 and 2, I struggled at first with the sciences but then went on to get all As in my upper level sci courses/prereqs. I also became president of pre-med society, a tutor and a bio TA.

That's my GPA trajectory, it's bad, I know. I'm praying the working FT, returning to school FT and doing well will show adcoms that I am no longer that struggling 18-20yr old. What do you think?

I think that you have shown that you do you have now is not the you event. Contact the Registrar of the schools where you got the apps and see if you can get retroactive withdrawals for the courses you failed. This is a thing at some schools, and the worst the registrar will say is no.

Can you fill out a what are my chances form for us?

 

[elixvii]

I think that you have shown that you do you have now is not the you event. Contact the Registrar of the schools where you got the apps and see if you can get retroactive withdrawals for the courses you failed. This is a thing at some schools, and the worst the registrar will say is no.

Can you fill out a what are my chances form for us?

Will do. Thanks for the input.

What is the what are my chances form? Is this it?

1. cGPA 3.2 sGPA 3.38
2. MCAT score: 520
3. State of residence: VA rural resident
4. Ethnicity and/or race: White
5. Undergraduate institution: Rutgers
6. Clinical experience: 300+ hours with addiction specialist
7. Research experience: 100 hours, no pubs
8. Shadowing experience and specialties represented: 300+ hours with a radiologist and another addiction medicine physician
9. Non-clinical volunteering: 500+ hours at an inpatient rehab, food bank, fundraiser, worked for a lobbyist pushing to ease addiction med restrictions, dog fostering
10. Other extracurricular activities: writing tutor for Rutgers med school, premed society treasurer and president 2yrs, fulltime corp work for 8 years, bio TA,
11. Relevant honors or awards: magna cum laude
12. Anything else not listed you think might be important: strong PS about wanting to become a rural primary care physician specializing in addiction. First hand account with alcoholic parents and best friend dying from addiction.

 

[Obnoxious Dad]

I'm sorry to hear about your family problems but it looks like you've gotten off the canvas and kept fighting. About 15 years ago there was a frequent poster on SDN named Texas Triathlete. He had a 2.2 GPA as an undergraduate student. He had a 32 on the old MCAT which is equivalent to a 514 on the new scale. He got accepted at PCOM Georgia. If you apply broadly, somebody will look at your MCAT score and interview you. Good luck.