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[bluntdissector]

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Hi all.

I realise one cannot use the stats from previous 'match seasons' to accurately calculate one's odds of matching to a specific program, especially if it's one of the top programs, but I'm trying to see how my application would compare to the 'average' IMG matching in neurology.

However, I want to make sure I understand the 'research projects' and 'abstracts, presentations and publications' section correctly:

For example, say I completed a research project (medical education related) for which I was the lead author. The article got published in Medical Education, and I presented my findings at my school's 'student research' day, at a local conference on medical education and at AMEE (an international conference on medical education) - does this count as one research project AND on publication AND one (or two or three?) presentations?

It's not like I'd cram a bunch of crappy projects depending on how the above question is answered, I just thought that if they don't overlap (which would mean the avg matched independent applicant has 2 projects + 5 publications etc = 7) it's quite insane, as I hardly had time for the 2-3 projects I WAS involved with and the 2-3 articles it produced...

(I realise it's a strange question.)

 

[typhoonegator]

They are technically separate, since you presented them separately. It's one project that you managed to milk for several CV-building categories. You can look at each category as independent of all others, so an abstract with a poster goes in both Abstracts, and Posters.

That's OK, because that is how the CV game is played. You don't need to sandbag yourself by only applying each project to one category.

When you apply for grants, however, they will not see this as indicative of productivity, however. It is one project, one publication. Unless, of course, you added on and presented new research with any of the iterations of the posters. Podium talks are a bit different (depending on the forum) because it suggests that you have enough esteem in the eyes of your peers to warrant a full presentation, which carries more weight. But I digress...

 

[bluntdissector]

They are technically separate, since you presented them separately. It's one project that you managed to milk for several CV-building categories. You can look at each category as independent of all others, so an abstract with a poster goes in both Abstracts, and Posters.

That's OK, because that is how the CV game is played. You don't need to sandbag yourself by only applying each project to one category.

When you apply for grants, however, they will not see this as indicative of productivity, however. It is one project, one publication. Unless, of course, you added on and presented new research with any of the iterations of the posters. Podium talks are a bit different (depending on the forum) because it suggests that you have enough esteem in the eyes of your peers to warrant a full presentation, which carries more weight. But I digress...

Thanks, that really is a brilliantly helpful response! 👍

One doesn't want to shamelessly milk one's past to improve a CV, but since MOST people seem to do just that, game theory leaves little choice... 😳