Nuclear Engineering as a major??

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So I have been a microbiology major and I am really not enjoying the courses. I mean I really like the chemistry, physics, math portion, but not so much the excess biology courses. I really excel in courses that are prevalent in the engineering major, but I'm not sure if it is a good route. If i could keep my GPA up in the 3.8 range and take the necessary Pre-reqs for MCAT and medical school, would a degree in nuclear engineering, or any engineering discipline, be a bad path to take? Honestly, its really interesting to me, but I want to be a MD... Looking for a little guidance from people that know more than me.

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Major doesn't matter just keep your gpa high.


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Yeah thats what I have been told, I just don't want to end up doing something that I will regret when it comes time to applying for medical school.
 
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It would a really cool route, assuming that you can maintain your GPA > 3.6. (>3.8 is great, but not absolutely required as long as everything else is solid, imho).

You would also be able to make some substantial money if you have a gap year or change your mind about medicine.

The background would be an asset for you in certain areas of research (e.g. radonc) if you decided to go that direction. You should see if your engineering dept has research opportunities that you could get involved in...that could be a positive factor in making a switch.
 
For the most part upper div engineering is more strenuous than biology. If I switched my biggest concerns would be difficulty getting research and a lower gpa.


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For the most part upper div engineering is more strenuous than biology. If I switched my biggest concerns would be difficulty getting research and a lower gpa.


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Yeah I see what your saying. When medical school talk about looking only at you sciences GPA does that cover all courses in math, physics, chem ,bio? Or are they specialized to a specific group or general area of courses? Thats another worry,because I would be taking so few actual "science" credit that one "b" in a course could drastically affect my science GPA.
 
Yeah I see what your saying. When medical school talk about looking only at you sciences GPA does that cover all courses in math, physics, chem ,bio? Or are they specialized to a specific group or general area of courses? Thats another worry,because I would be taking so few actual "science" credit that one "b" in a course could drastically affect my science GPA.

BPCM GPA is all courses that you can categorize as biology, physics, chemistry, and math. It's self reported, but they double check and can make changes if they think you're totally off base. They also look at your total GPA and your all other GPA (GPA not including BPCM). As far as I know you want all numbers to be fairly even and high, although a little variation won't kill you. Having a lot of science courses can buffer out a subject you're terrible at though so a B won't tank you. I did relatively poorly in ochem, but I was a microbiology major and my abundance of science courses provided a little buffer for my BPCM GPA.
 
If you go for that major (Nuclear engineering) be careful you don't get kidnapped. :laugh:
LOL I heard this once in another website, for people who major in that field. Supposedly a terrorist or an enemy country will want your knowledge to help them build a weapon. That's Crayyy
 
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Doesn't matter what major you do, so long as you do well. Also, being a nuc engineer will help you stand out regardless of how well you do (provided you get above a 3.5).
 
being a nuc engineer will help you stand out regardless of how well you do (provided you get above a 3.5).

If I was on an adcom, I'd want to interview someone with this major. It's interesting and unique.
 
For the most part upper div engineering is more strenuous than biology. If I switched my biggest concerns would be difficulty getting research and a lower gpa.

I was an EE student back in undergrad and did research in the school's NucE dept. I knew a few Nuclear Engineering premeds as well, as well as a Nuclear Engineer who ended up completing an MD/PhD Program, with the PhD in NucE.

There are plenty of opportunities for research. If you school is big enough to actually have Nuclear Engineering as a program, there are probably many different groups you could join.

It all depends how you market yourself with regard to research. If you were interested in Imaging, you could probably get a spot in your own (NucE) department, Biomedical eng, Electrical Engineering, or Chemistry. If you were interested in Health Physics, you could research Cell Biology or Genetics. Again, it has to do with how you market yourself to professors when you approach them.
 
If you know you want to be a doctor, don't do engineering. Any kind of engineering. Just don't. What is the point of making things harder for yourself when nuclear engineering will have 0% to do with what you become at the end of med school?
 
If you know you want to be a doctor, don't do engineering. Any kind of engineering. Just don't. What is the point of making things harder for yourself when nuclear engineering will have 0% to do with what you become at the end of med school?

...Are you really an MD/PhD student with that kind of outlook?
 
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If you know you want to be a doctor, don't do engineering. Any kind of engineering. Just don't. What is the point of making things harder for yourself when nuclear engineering will have 0% to do with what you become at the end of med school?

Then again, if you can pull off a engineering major with a 3.9+ GPA, plenty of schools will find you a very attractive applicant.

Engineering can be a GPA killer, though.
 
what is problematic with my outlook?

And yes.

The thought that people shouldn't study what they want to study because they may not see themselves using it after medical school. I mean, isn't the whole premise of having a PhD in addition to an MD so that you can gain skills that will help you conduct meaningful research, as well as study some area of knowledge that isn't covered as in depth in medical school? Nuclear imaging and medical instrumentation is a pretty big part of medical research, and if the OP really loves nuclear engineering, I don't see why he can't make a point of incorporating it into his career post-medical school. Isn't undergrad supposed to be about exploring your passions and seeing where it takes you? I'm just wondering how an MD/PhD candidate could fail to see that possibility.
 
The thought that people shouldn't study what they want to study because they may not see themselves using it after medical school. I mean, isn't the whole premise of having a PhD in addition to an MD so that you can gain skills that will help you conduct meaningful research, as well as study some area of knowledge that isn't covered as in depth in medical school? Nuclear imaging and medical instrumentation is a pretty big part of medical research, and if the OP really loves nuclear engineering, I don't see why he can't make a point of incorporating it into his career post-medical school. Isn't undergrad supposed to be about exploring your passions and seeing where it takes you? I'm just wondering how an MD/PhD candidate could fail to see that possibility.


1) The OP made no mention of wanting to do research after getting his medical degree. In which case, he would be primarily a clinician and his priority would thus be getting into the medical school of his choice which would be made more difficult by an engineering major.

2) If his main goal is to research nuclear imaging and medical instrumentation I think most MDs and MD/PhDs would advise him to pursue the PhD solely without toiling in medical school. I would arbitrarily assert that 95% of what he has to learn in medical school would not be pertinent to such an endeavor.

3) To address your remaining points, I point to my own decision to pursue a dual degree. I had always planned on doing cancer research and am currently working on what I hope to be a very significant addition to our knowledge of glioblastomas. But I also want to treat cancer patients as an oncologist. There is a clear and useful overlap between my goal as a clinician and a researcher. For the OP's case I see no such relation given the limited information he's provided about his goals. Do you? What I've gained from the post was that he wants to go to med school, but is entertaining the idea of nuclear engineering as a major because he's tired of other life science subjects, not because he wants to find a way to merge his education with his future medical training. He also wants to maintain a 3.8 gpa, which most would agree is more difficult in an engineering major. He then asks if this is a good idea. To which I responded with a resounding no.

And just so you know, I premised my original advice with "if you know you want to be a doctor." If the OP was unsure about what he wanted to do with the rest of his life, having an engineering degree is a nice thing to fall back on. But that's why I included that premise.

Too many people here are vilified for telling the truth, even when it's soft.
 
1) The OP made no mention of wanting to do research after getting his medical degree. In which case, he would be primarily a clinician and his priority would thus be getting into the medical school of his choice which would be made more difficult by an engineering major.

2) If his main goal is to research nuclear imaging and medical instrumentation I think most MDs and MD/PhDs would advise him to pursue the PhD solely without toiling in medical school. I would arbitrarily assert that 95% of what he has to learn in medical school would not be pertinent to such an endeavor.

3) To address your remaining points, I point to my own decision to pursue a dual degree. I had always planned on doing cancer research and am currently working on what I hope to be a very significant addition to our knowledge of glioblastomas. But I also want to treat cancer patients as an oncologist. There is a clear and useful overlap between my goal as a clinician and a researcher. For the OP's case I see no such relation given the limited information he's provided about his goals. Do you? What I've gained from the post was that he wants to go to med school, but is entertaining the idea of nuclear engineering as a major because he's tired of other life science subjects, not because he wants to find a way to merge his education with his future medical training. He also wants to maintain a 3.8 gpa, which most would agree is more difficult in an engineering major. He then asks if this is a good idea. To which I responded with a resounding no.

And just so you know, I premised my original advice with "if you know you want to be a doctor." If the OP was unsure about what he wanted to do with the rest of his life, having an engineering degree is a nice thing to fall back on. But that's why I included that premise.

Too many people here are vilified for telling the truth, even when it's soft.

What if OP, despite wanting to go into medicine, loves the subject of Nuclear Engineering? Engineering does encourage critical thinking and problem solving, something useful as a physician and/or clinical researcher.
 
Nuclear Engineering is pretty awesome.
 
Then again, if you can pull off a engineering major with a 3.9+ GPA, plenty of schools will find you a very attractive applicant.

Engineering can be a GPA killer, though.

Not only this, but what about the whole idea of majoring in something you ENJOY?

I'm amazed at how many people knock engineering and say it's the worst decision possible if you know your goal is med school. Often, these are the same people posting on other threads saying "Sure, go ahead and major in History. Med schools don't care about your major and you should do something you enjoy".
 
What if OP, despite wanting to go into medicine, loves the subject of Nuclear Engineering? Engineering does encourage critical thinking and problem solving, something useful as a physician and/or clinical researcher.

Then it's a very personal decision, in which I can only give a personal opinion.

I also majored in what I was really interested in, which was genetics. I enjoyed it through and through, but the core upper division courses were graded very harshly, and to this day I regret not choosing a major I found less interesting but easier on my gpa to have more options for medical school. This has colored my perspective. I don't even really remember much of the things I studied in those upper divs. And after finishing preclinical years of med school and working in different labs my interests have changed completely. Easier major -> more time for fun -> more likely to have a better gpa -> no change in the fact that you'll be a doctor anyway.

Unless of course, studying nuclear engineering is more fun to you than having extra time to chill with friends.
 
If you love the engineering, work your butt off, and you can do great.
 
1) The OP made no mention of wanting to do research after getting his medical degree. In which case, he would be primarily a clinician and his priority would thus be getting into the medical school of his choice which would be made more difficult by an engineering major.

2) If his main goal is to research nuclear imaging and medical instrumentation I think most MDs and MD/PhDs would advise him to pursue the PhD solely without toiling in medical school. I would arbitrarily assert that 95% of what he has to learn in medical school would not be pertinent to such an endeavor.

3) To address your remaining points, I point to my own decision to pursue a dual degree. I had always planned on doing cancer research and am currently working on what I hope to be a very significant addition to our knowledge of glioblastomas. But I also want to treat cancer patients as an oncologist. There is a clear and useful overlap between my goal as a clinician and a researcher. For the OP's case I see no such relation given the limited information he's provided about his goals. Do you? What I've gained from the post was that he wants to go to med school, but is entertaining the idea of nuclear engineering as a major because he's tired of other life science subjects, not because he wants to find a way to merge his education with his future medical training. He also wants to maintain a 3.8 gpa, which most would agree is more difficult in an engineering major. He then asks if this is a good idea. To which I responded with a resounding no.

And just so you know, I premised my original advice with "if you know you want to be a doctor." If the OP was unsure about what he wanted to do with the rest of his life, having an engineering degree is a nice thing to fall back on. But that's why I included that premise.

Too many people here are vilified for telling the truth, even when it's soft.

My own experience in undergrad is counter to yours, which is why I think it is a good idea for OP to switch into something he finds interesting in case it turns out to reveal something more about what he would want to do in the future with regards to medicine. But given what he said, I see that your point is more pragmatic.
 
For the most part upper div engineering is more strenuous than biology. If I switched my biggest concerns would be difficulty getting research and a lower gpa.


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In my experience research is very easy to get as an engineer.
 
Nuclear Engineering sounds like something made up for spy movies.

You will bring an amazing set of skills to the table. I hope to work with you one day!
 
Nuclear Engineering sounds like something made up for spy movies.

You will bring an amazing set of skills to the table. I hope to work with you one day!

1) not really. It's just another major

2) the set of skills Op brings will depend on how well they do. It's very well possible the op will do poorly in nuclear and not bring any skills to the table at all. If op does do well,sure. It's possible.

Hype.
 
Then again, if you can pull off a engineering major with a 3.9+ GPA, plenty of schools will find you a very attractive applicant.

Engineering can be a GPA killer, though.

I don't think having a 3.9+ in engineering rly made any difference in my application. Certainly not a big enough difference to justify the extra effort. Imo, doing engineering to impress Adcoms is a pretty low yield route
 
If you're willing to put in the extra work to maintain a high GPA and accept the risk that it may drop than do it if you're interested in it. Everyone here always says to major in something you enjoy
 
I don't think having a 3.9+ in engineering rly made any difference in my application. Certainly not a big enough difference to justify the extra effort. Imo, doing engineering to impress Adcoms is a pretty low yield route

It depends who you're trying to impress. One of my friends had a 3.95+ in an engineering major, had a 35+ MCAT, but applied SUPER late, like October late. He had only a few EC's, nothing really impressive, only numbers.

He got rejected everywhere except UCLA SOM. n=1, but I guess the high GPA in engineering (coupled with the good MCAT) resonated with the adcom there.
 
It depends who you're trying to impress. One of my friends had a 3.95+ in an engineering major, had a 35+ MCAT, but applied SUPER late, like October late. He had only a few EC's, nothing really impressive, only numbers.

He got rejected everywhere except UCLA SOM. n=1, but I guess the high GPA in engineering (coupled with the good MCAT) resonated with the adcom there.

I think this story works better as a cautionary tale about applying as early as possible.

One benefit to earning an engineering degree that hasn't been brought up is the backup potential. Not getting into med school but still having a nuclear or chemical or mechanical or whatever engineering diploma isn't as big of a deal as not getting in with a chemistry or biology degree. The former can still go out and get good paying jobs almost right away (maybe not medical good, but 60-70K a year is great when you're starting out), while the latter practically need PhDs to have the same sort of career opportunities (obviously not always).
 
It depends who you're trying to impress. One of my friends had a 3.95+ in an engineering major, had a 35+ MCAT, but applied SUPER late, like October late. He had only a few EC's, nothing really impressive, only numbers.

He got rejected everywhere except UCLA SOM. n=1, but I guess the high GPA in engineering (coupled with the good MCAT) resonated with the adcom there.

He sounds just like me haha. I do think engineering impressed one Adcom at Baylor, but other than that not rly. It's pretty hit or miss, putting that extra effort into your ECs is probably the way to go, unless you actually enjoy engineering
 
Nuclear engineering is tough. The sad thing about admissions is that major plays no role in decision only the GPA does. If you get a 3.5 in nuclear engineering you would without a doubt with the same effort generally speaking get a 3.8 as a Biology major.
 
what is problematic with my outlook?

And yes.

You must not be far enough along to realize how much it would help in RadOnc. Sure, there are medical physicists to do most of the work but to say 0% is ridiculous. RadOnc's understanding nuclear anything is pretty relevant.
 
Nuclear engineer reporting in. I know this is an old thread, but my major made some very interesting conversation at interviews. Just thought I would drop that little tidbit off for future googlers of this question. I believe certain schools respect this major, especially if you can get a 3.7+ (not easy).
 
Physics would be a good alternative, far fewer classes and much more overlap with prereqs. But OP, you're going from bio to nuclear engineering. Are you sure your calculus skills (calc 1-3) are solid? Have you done extremely well in physics? Are you aware that nuclear engineering is much more critcal-thinking-intensive than bio? I'm not trying to knock you, but verify that you know what you're getting into.
 
Yeah thats what I have been told, I just don't want to end up doing something that I will regret when it comes time to applying for medical school.


The far more serious risk is ending up with a degree in something that won't help you land a job if you don't go to medical school.
 
The far more serious risk is ending up with a degree in something that won't help you land a job if you don't go to medical school.

That's why one ought to decide whether they're in this game or not sooner than later
 
That's why one ought to decide whether they're in this game or not sooner than later

Very true -- And periodically re-evaluate and adjust accordingly. As a new freshman, a students odds of getting into medical school are pretty low; so it makes sense to have a strong 'Plan B' and to plan with 'B' in mind as much as Plan A. But as a junior with a high GPA, good MCAT score and strong supporting activities, odds are much higher. At that point, going 'whole hog' on the medical school plan makes more sense.
 
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