NY compounding exam for out state student

[bkshtl]

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hello

I was studying in ohio and just graduated. Since I got a job in NY, I am supposed to take compounding exam in Jan 2016. But I am really not familiar with compounding exam since OH does not require the exam. I attended dr. Cutie's review class but i am now more afraid than before.

I am wondering if anyone has some text or guidebook provided by ny pharmacy school. Or any kind of source for the exam. I want some guideline for calculation of compounding or any any type of sources for it.

If somebody could help me, please let me know. I need someone's help here.

Thank you

 

[zelman]

hello

I was studying in ohio and just graduated. Since I got a job in NY, I am supposed to take compounding exam in Jan 2016. But I am really not familiar with compounding exam since OH does not require the exam. I attended dr. Cutie's review class but i am now more afraid than before.

I am wondering if anyone has some text or guidebook provided by ny pharmacy school. Or any kind of source for the exam. I want some guideline for calculation of compounding or any any type of sources for it.

If somebody could help me, please let me know. I need someone's help here.

Thank you

What did they give you at the review? I went to the Albany COP review a few years back and they gave me enough info about what to study. The only major outside thing I did was make flash cards for the ISMP commonly confused medications.

 

[RxPreceptor]

Out of stater, passed on my first attempt...I did not know how high the failure rate was going into the CMPD exam. If I had to take it again, I would actually brush up on some commonly CMPD meds made from a kit; say, lansoprazole, "magic mouthwash" (if that even counts), topical combos (salicylate based...mixing order does matter...all about I purifying solids to change the melting points into liquids at room temperature), & some simple IV prep stuff (flashback to rotations hopefully).

Some advice: practice writing out procedures in great detail how you would go about compounding CMPD X...be sure to write insanely small & make sure everything legally required is labeled on the CMPD...they actually deduct for bad handwriting (why physicians can't pass...I kid). Free-response is hit-or miss...I could not advise one how to study.

The commonly confused names is a joke...and should be common sense. If unsure of the indication (I.e. Some godawful, old brand name medication, think about the name and what a marketing person would think...usually is a good clue & go with the broadest indication...say antiviral instead of HIV med). Feel free to PM me, I'm sure I'm missing out some other tips.

I had no clue how to study for this exam...just don't try to memorize Trissels!

 

[MindGeek]

If you went to Dr. Cutie's in-person review and have his review materials you should be in great shape.
It is a tough exam. I went to school in NY and still had to take it twice.
I used Dr. Cutie's materials in between my 1st and 2nd attempt and my score did bump up enough for me to pass.

New York pass rate for first time exam takers:
June 2015 - 72%
Jan 2015 - 58%
June 2014 - 65%
Jan 2014 - 65%
June 2013 - 77%
Jan 2013 - 77%
June 2012 - 66%
Jan 2012 - 74%
June 2011 - 92%
Jan 2011 - 87%
June 2010 - 84%

Good Luck!

 

[PharMed2016]

Oh wow! I had no clue that the statistics were that bad for compounding. Are those all-comers or just out-of-state?

PS. Was so envious of the people who went to school in-state because of their familiarity with the wet lab portion. I would recommend on taking a review course at the location you plan on taking the examination.

 

[MindGeek]

Are those all-comers or just out-of-state?

That probably is just for NY-schooled takers. My source bills it as "New York pass rate for first time exam takers."

 

[zelman]

That probably is just for NY-schooled takers. My source bills it as "New York pass rate for first time exam takers."

I thought I had heard that NY students had around a 90% pass rate and out of state students were around 50%.

 

[Eichhoernchen]

Most of the out of state people I know that tried the compounding in NY failed the first time. :/ Reciprocity is better option.

 

[MindGeek]

Reciprocity is better option

I agree, it is if you can. You just have to have that as your strategy going in. You can't give the Part III a try and if that doesn't work switch strategies and reciprocate. If you fail the Part III you cannot reciprocate in (even if you exceed the out-of-state RPh hours needed) until you pass the Part III.

 

[bkshtl]

What did they give you at the review? I went to the Albany COP review a few years back and they gave me enough info about what to study. The only major outside thing I did was make flash cards for the ISMP commonly confused medications.

How long did you study for the exam? I am so afraid after reading all replies 🙁

 

[bkshtl]

Out of stater, passed on my first attempt...I did not know how high the failure rate was going into the CMPD exam. If I had to take it again, I would actually brush up on some commonly CMPD meds made from a kit; say, lansoprazole, "magic mouthwash" (if that even counts), topical combos (salicylate based...mixing order does matter...all about I purifying solids to change the melting points into liquids at room temperature), & some simple IV prep stuff (flashback to rotations hopefully).

Some advice: practice writing out procedures in great detail how you would go about compounding CMPD X...be sure to write insanely small & make sure everything legally required is labeled on the CMPD...they actually deduct for bad handwriting (why physicians can't pass...I kid). Free-response is hit-or miss...I could not advise one how to study.

The commonly confused names is a joke...and should be common sense. If unsure of the indication (I.e. Some godawful, old brand name medication, think about the name and what a marketing person would think...usually is a good clue & go with the broadest indication...say antiviral instead of HIV med). Feel free to PM me, I'm sure I'm missing out some other tips.

I had no clue how to study for this exam...just don't try to memorize Trissels!

When did you take the exam? what material did you use?

 

[bkshtl]

If you went to Dr. Cutie's in-person review and have his review materials you should be in great shape.
It is a tough exam. I went to school in NY and still had to take it twice.
I used Dr. Cutie's materials in between my 1st and 2nd attempt and my score did bump up enough for me to pass.

New York pass rate for first time exam takers:
June 2014 - 65%
Jan 2014 - 65%
June 2013 - 77%
Jan 2013 - 77%
June 2012 - 66%
Jan 2012 - 74%
June 2011 - 92%
Jan 2011 - 87%
June 2010 - 84%

Good Luck!

Do you think studying only Dr. cutie's note is good enough for the exam? Those are only material I have now, and I am wondering if they are enough.
I need some help 🙁

 

[zelman]

How long did you study for the exam? I am so afraid after reading all replies 🙁

A month?

 

[bkshtl]

A month?

NY students have any kind of textbook or guidelines for compounding exam? I am not sure if it is okay to study only Dr. Cutie's note. THEY are too many, though!

 

[MindGeek]

Do you think studying only Dr. cutie's note is good enough for the exam? Those are only material I have now, and I am wondering if they are enough.
I need some help 🙁

Like I said before I think you are in good shape.
You went to his in-person review and you've been keeping up on the material.

Most importantly do not let bad feelings from Day 1 spoil Day 2!
It will be in the past and you must study non-stop with a clear mind between Day 1 & 2.

Try to get into a clean room to brush up on technique if you haven't been since the review, if your can.

Dr. Cutie's note. THEY are too many, though!

There are sooooo many because that's how intense and wide of a test it is.
His notes are not just a souvenir from a trip to Brooklyn, they are an integral part of your life until January 6th.

 

[RxPreceptor]

For the errors and omission part, my friends & I would make fake scripts with an error or 2 on them and present them to each other...carefully read the exam directions beforehand, there aren't any legal errors on the scripts despite there actually being some....I.e. DEA #s that don't add up AB1234567 won't count as errors...they are just there for completion

 

[Ackj]

For the errors and omission part, my friends & I would make fake scripts with an error or 2 on them and present them to each other...carefully read the exam directions beforehand, there aren't any legal errors on the scripts despite there actually being some....I.e. DEA #s that don't add up AB1234567 won't count as errors...they are just there for completion

This was the worst part. When there is more than one error, but you have to choose which is the real error, and not pick the accidental typo. I kind of remember a C2 rx that was over 30 days old, but had a different error on it as well, and assumed the date was a typo.

 

[zelman]

This was the worst part. When there is more than one error, but you have to choose which is the real error, and not pick the accidental typo. I kind of remember a C2 rx that was over 30 days old, but had a different error on it as well, and assumed the date was a typo.

I think the fact that humans evaluate your answers for that section allows for more than one answer to be marked correct. I noticed some oddball issues that were 100% problems, but may have been unintentional.

 

[bkshtl]

This was the worst part. When there is more than one error, but you have to choose which is the real error, and not pick the accidental typo. I kind of remember a C2 rx that was over 30 days old, but had a different error on it as well, and assumed the date was a typo.

Then, When I study the indication, do I have to memorize in detail? For example, for antibiotic, do I have to memorize all specific infection such as skin infection, bone infection? Or just memorize generally like "antibiotic"??

 

[bkshtl]

I think the fact that humans evaluate your answers for that section allows for more than one answer to be marked correct. I noticed some oddball issues that were 100% problems, but may have been unintentional.

Then, When I study the indication, do I have to memorize in detail? For example, for antibiotic, do I have to memorize all specific infection such as skin infection, bone infection? Or just memorize generally like "antibiotic"??

 

[zelman]

Then, When I study the indication, do I have to memorize in detail? For example, for antibiotic, do I have to memorize all specific infection such as skin infection, bone infection? Or just memorize generally like "antibiotic"??

For LASA, you need to name one indication for each drug in the pair. There are specific sources that are acceptable, but I don't remember them. So, FDA approved indications are the obvious ones, but some off-label okay, too.