NYCPM or Temple??

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I got accepted to both and was wondering which is better to attend? (I don't care much about the location of the campus as long as I get good education and clinical experiences)? Which do u recommend?
 
I got accepted to both and was wondering which is better to attend? (I don't care much about the location of the campus as long as I get good education and clinical experiences)? Which do u recommend?

both are very good schools. I like philly so i'de say TUSPM
 
whenever someone asks this question temple always seems to win😕
 
whenever someone asks this question temple always seems to win😕

That's because:

1) Originally part of the Trinity
2) Higher board pass rate
3) Much stronger residency placement and nationwide reach
4) Better clinicals
 
whenever someone asks this question temple always seems to win😕
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The big downsides to Temple are very high tuition cost - I believe the highest of any pod school - and that Philly is a hole (IMO anyways). Still, Temple has a good name/history, affiliation with a solid university, consistently good residency connections/match, strong clinical experience with full scope, and more externships. I'd definitely go there if it were between the two pod programs in question.
 
krabmas, any particular reason would choose NYCPM over Temple? Just wondering, as I am making my decision between them.
 
NYCPM had a higher board pass rate this year. 98.6% overall.
Hey runner, lets see some scientific backing to your claims.
Better clinicals? How exactly do you assess this?
I'd also like to see this supposed breakdown of residency placement and nationwide reach. Perhaps you could post a link to some sort of chart or infographic.

I chose NYCPM. I hate philly. I am very happy here. We're going through a lot of construction here, so by the time you would show up in NY the building will be much nicer. That seems to be people's main gripe. NYCPM is also working toward vision 2015, and I would expect classes to be taking the USMLE in the next few years.

NYCPM just upped their scholarships too, and already have a low tuition. PM me if you want.
 
krabmas, any particular reason would choose NYCPM over Temple? Just wondering, as I am making my decision between them.

I did not attend temple so I cannot say what htey have or do not have. I only know my experience at NYCPM and have seen some students from Temple.

There are good and bad students from every school.

Choose the environment that you think you can excell in.

Things I liked about NYCPM:

1. The Family like atmosphere. It is a small school with little burocracy (sp?). This is a relative comparison. The other schools all have big umbrella unuversities (exceot ohio) that govern all the decisions. It is nice to be able to talk to the Dean whenever the whim arrises.

2. External hospital rotations (clinic) in 3rd and 4th year. Also the school clinic. I've said this before and Harkless said it first. You see what you know and diagnose what you know. If all you know is fungal nails then that is all you see and all you'll treat. If you look past the fungal nails and see patholgy, work it up and treat it appropriately.

a small tangent - when the patient comes in the clinic room and you say " what brings you in today?" and they say their nails... if you just cut their nails and disregard the rest of the foot, then all you'll do is cut nails and that is all you will learn. If you examine their feet you may find PAD, charcot, tendonitis, warts, xerosis, peroneal spastic flatfoot, residual clubfoot...

When you go to the PCP do you present with your diagnosis? no, you present with your symptoms and the doc works you up, if they catch something else along the way, good medicine would be to treat it.

3. 4th year hospital rotations - gen surg, internal medicine, ER... Again, these are what you make of them and can be somewhat of an uphill battle to change the NY attitude that pods aren't real docs and don't need to know... When I was on gen surg, if all the gen surg cases were covered I'd scrub ortho cases or the early pod cases before the students arrived.

4. small class size ( I went to large university for undergrad) and availability and open door policy of most of the profs.

5. pediatrics. I don't think any of the other schools get the peds exposure that we did. lots of didactic peds classes, and the peds rotation in clinic. Lots of flat feet and in-toeing, psuedobowing, metatarsus adductus... There historically has been little surgical treatment of the peds pathology, but you learn how to do an entire lower extremity orthopedic peds exam and practice it more than full traditional H&Ps and learn non-surgical treatments for peds deformities. On the rare occasion there will be a clubfoot or rare deformity but mostly the clubfeet are treated by pediatric orthopedists (a large part of their specialty).

I hope this helps you make the right decision for you.
 
I continue to see claims of some schools having better clinics than others. I have no idea how you gauge that but what I think pontential students need to look at is OUTSIDE clerkship rotations. In other words, how many months do schools give you to rotate through residency programs PRIOR to crips? Clinic is clinic no matter where you end up and you will all see the things you need to see (and probably more palliative care than you need to see).

The majority of students land a residency program based on face time and work ethic as they rotate through various residency programs as students more so than a 15 minute interview at crips. Sure, clinical experience will play a part in that but as I said, everybody will see what they need to see regardless of where they go. I would be more concerned about time allowed for clerkship rotations than debating whose clinic is supposedly superior. Your outside rotation time is most likely going to land you a residency.

I have no idea what most schools are currently doing but I know that when I was a student, some programs gave as little as 2 months for outside rotations before crips. If I were a potential student, I would make my decision more based on that. Afterall, the point of all of this schooling is to land a good residency!
 
I continue to see claims of some schools having better clinics than others. I have no idea how you gauge that but what I think pontential students need to look at is OUTSIDE clerkship rotations. In other words, how many months do schools give you to rotate through residency programs PRIOR to crips? Clinic is clinic no matter where you end up and you will all see the things you need to see (and probably more palliative care than you need to see).

The majority of students land a residency program based on face time and work ethic as they rotate through various residency programs as students more so than a 15 minute interview at crips. Sure, clinical experience will play a part in that but as I said, everybody will see what they need to see regardless of where they go. I would be more concerned about time allowed for clerkship rotations than debating whose clinic is supposedly superior. Your outside rotation time is most likely going to land you a residency.

I have no idea what most schools are currently doing but I know that when I was a student, some programs gave as little as 2 months for outside rotations before crips. If I were a potential student, I would make my decision more based on that. Afterall, the point of all of this schooling is to land a good residency!


I hate to fight with you... but...

The OP just wanted to compare Temple and NYCPM.

Even though I only had 3 true externships and an allowed month away at UMDNJ I still found time to visit other programs and appreciated the manditory Gen surg, I med, ER rotations that I did in NYC. When I first graduated I thought if I had to do it again, I would have picked a different school. After starting residency and comparing educations I would still pick NYCPM. This was a good decision for me, but not for everyone.

The most important thing is to pick the school that you can thrive at. If you pick the "harvard" of podiatry (which ever school that is) but end up with a "C" average the school name will not help you get a good residency. But if you go to the school that you can do well at and learn the info you need to learn I think this is the better school for you.
 
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